Eight Years of Bush: It’s Over at Last
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While I am at it!
Since the 60's America has had a poor record of standing with his allies Vietnam coming to mind.
I can see that America will now pull out of Iraq and once more leave her friends standing.
You guys started the good fight in Iraq and rightly or wrongly you are going to have to finnish it otherwise you will leave another Iran in place.
As the Islamic extremist say we do not like your way of live and will continue until they have broken it down. That is terrible and a direct danger to the free world. Their woman are simply slaves!
I hope the Obama crowd keeps the above in mind before they simply move out of Iraq to score political points at home.
As a free world citizen I am very concerned.
Bush can be criticised but at least he stood up for what he thought was correct.
In truth we depend on America to stand up to these extremists and protect the free world.
Pine???
Since the 60's America has had a poor record of standing with his allies Vietnam coming to mind.
I can see that America will now pull out of Iraq and once more leave her friends standing.
You guys started the good fight in Iraq and rightly or wrongly you are going to have to finnish it otherwise you will leave another Iran in place.
As the Islamic extremist say we do not like your way of live and will continue until they have broken it down. That is terrible and a direct danger to the free world. Their woman are simply slaves!
I hope the Obama crowd keeps the above in mind before they simply move out of Iraq to score political points at home.
As a free world citizen I am very concerned.
Bush can be criticised but at least he stood up for what he thought was correct.
In truth we depend on America to stand up to these extremists and protect the free world.
Pine???
+1 I agree.
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In South Africa we have been going through all this nonsense now for the last +- 10 years. The whites have lost their self pride and identity completely.
Don't get me wrong racism as such cannot be condoned but the sensitivities that go with it is pathetic.
Whites shake off critism because they are confident in their race.
But blacks hide behind racism to make their inadequencies correct.
You cannot say anything against them or they are up in arms on how they were slaves, done in by the whites and how derogative any remarks are.
Mogabi has been ruining Zimbabwe and killing his own people now for years but no its England and America's that has caused it.
I have just watched a program on your Nimitz aircraft carrier and how an aircraft controller, female and black, raised herself above her poor circumstances and bettered herself without crying on how she was done in and had no chance in life.
Now that is what is needed, face up to your situation and do something about it. Don't blame others!
I am concerned that with Obama its going to be the same story, all about racism and blaming others.
Pine???
Bill Cosby said the same thing and he got black balled by his own..In South Africa we have been going through all this nonsense now for the last +- 10 years. The whites have lost their self pride and identity completely.
Don't get me wrong racism as such cannot be condoned but the sensitivities that go with it is pathetic.
Whites shake off critism because they are confident in their race.
But blacks hide behind racism to make their inadequencies correct.
You cannot say anything against them or they are up in arms on how they were slaves, done in by the whites and how derogative any remarks are.
Mogabi has been ruining Zimbabwe and killing his own people now for years but no its England and America's that has caused it.
I have just watched a program on your Nimitz aircraft carrier and how an aircraft controller, female and black, raised herself above her poor circumstances and bettered herself without crying on how she was done in and had no chance in life.
Now that is what is needed, face up to your situation and do something about it. Don't blame others!
I am concerned that with Obama its going to be the same story, all about racism and blaming others.
Pine???
just remember this if nothing else, Obama said today that "government is the answer"...just the opposite of what Reagan said at his swearing in...this is the ultimate problem with the left, they worship man and government and believe that their wisdom is absoulute and final...we have begun down a road that will ultimately lead to sorrow....
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George Bush, Forever Deluded: It has been a tragicomedy listening to the words of George Bush as he has prepared to leave office next week. In one interview, he said he would leave office with his head held high. How deluded he is! Anyone have a spare shoe?
When giving a farewell address after 8 years of utter horror, George Bush admitted having made many “mistakes.†Saying he made mistakes is putting it mildly. He also said he believes that the world respects his nation “for its compassion.†Compassion? What compassion? How deluded he is!
In listening to this individual speak and watching him the saying comes to mind, “Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.â€
Bush told the useless White House Press Corps, a collection of pseudo-journalists, that the two mistakes of his invasion of Iraq were: (1) Putting up the "mission accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier, which, he said, "sent the wrong message," and (2) the absence of the alleged weapons of mass destruction that he used to justify the invasion. Although Bush now admits that there never were any such weapons in Iraq, he still insists that the invasion was the right thing to do.
This is after the deaths of 1.25 million Iraqis, turning 4 million Iraqis into refugees and the destruction of a country’s infrastructure, environment and economy. He was “freeing†them from a brutal dictator, but there is no dictator more brutal than George Bush.
Bush somehow, while being a one man weapon of mass destruction, justifies himself by saying, “America has gone more than seven years without another terrorist attack on our soil.â€
Never mind that in so doing he has trashed the US Constitution with more and more laws to keep control of the restive citizenry . He has trashed international law, trashed freedom and democracy and all vestiges of decency and humanity while establishing a modern day Gestapo in that the Department of Homeland Security and related intelligence services have been given carte blanche to spy on not only US citizens, but on individuals all over the world. They have also been given the green light for illegal detentions, deviant sexual practices and tortures that only the SS could envy.
He boasts of having allies on his side, but he has totally alienated allies and the rest of the international community. Now his country’s international relations are merely a matter of arm twisting, threats, blackmail and bribery.
A real goody goody!
You would rather see that America leaves Iraq and that it changes into another Iran and that millions are murdered in the clean-up.
You would rather ignore that under the Islamic extremists woman are but slaves?
Have you forgotten Vietnam where the job was left undone and that millions where killed when the communist took over?
You guys started it and you have the obligation of seeing it through.
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A real goody goody!
You would rather see that America leaves Iraq and that it changes into another Iran and that millions are murdered in the clean-up.
You would rather ignore that under the Islamic extremists woman are but slaves?
Have you forgotten Vietnam where the job was left undone and that millions where killed when the communist took over?
You guys started it and you have the obligation of seeing it through.
Pine
Well said Pine i agree with you
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George Bush, Forever Deluded: It has been a tragicomedy listening to the words of George Bush as he has prepared to leave office next week. In one interview, he said he would leave office with his head held high. How deluded he is! Anyone have a spare shoe?
When giving a farewell address after 8 years of utter horror, George Bush admitted having made many “mistakes.†Saying he made mistakes is putting it mildly. He also said he believes that the world respects his nation “for its compassion.†Compassion? What compassion? How deluded he is!
In listening to this individual speak and watching him the saying comes to mind, “Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.â€
Bush told the useless White House Press Corps, a collection of pseudo-journalists, that the two mistakes of his invasion of Iraq were: (1) Putting up the "mission accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier, which, he said, "sent the wrong message," and (2) the absence of the alleged weapons of mass destruction that he used to justify the invasion. Although Bush now admits that there never were any such weapons in Iraq, he still insists that the invasion was the right thing to do.
This is after the deaths of 1.25 million Iraqis, turning 4 million Iraqis into refugees and the destruction of a country’s infrastructure, environment and economy. He was “freeing†them from a brutal dictator, but there is no dictator more brutal than George Bush.
Bush somehow, while being a one man weapon of mass destruction, justifies himself by saying, “America has gone more than seven years without another terrorist attack on our soil.â€
Never mind that in so doing he has trashed the US Constitution with more and more laws to keep control of the restive citizenry . He has trashed international law, trashed freedom and democracy and all vestiges of decency and humanity while establishing a modern day Gestapo in that the Department of Homeland Security and related intelligence services have been given carte blanche to spy on not only US citizens, but on individuals all over the world. They have also been given the green light for illegal detentions, deviant sexual practices and tortures that only the SS could envy.
He boasts of having allies on his side, but he has totally alienated allies and the rest of the international community. Now his country’s international relations are merely a matter of arm twisting, threats, blackmail and bribery.
Going on a bit!
You don't have an inkling clue what a dictator is!
If Bush was a dicator what is Mogabi?
Or have you never heard of Mogabi and Zimbabwe where he has been ruining the country and killing his people for years.
He lost the election 2 years ago but he still clings to power with murder and intimidation.
At least Bush left peacefully after his term expired.
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I'm sorry, I haven't been paying close attention...
Do you mind telling me why people think Obama's administration will not tolerate criticism?
I'm not disagreeing, I'm just not aware of any precedent to lead to this expectation, and I would like to know. Thanks.
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Thank You!
At this rate we will be ruined like Zimbabwe soon!
Don't forget that its our governmnent that has kept Mogabi in power turning a blind eye to his terror.
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One example!
Two of us posted reasonable Obama jokes on this forum which was promptly removed.
If it was a Bush joke it would have been okay?
Is this a sign of things to come?
Sensitivites in certain quarters?
I hope I am wrong and that Obama will prove to be a strong leader that acts past his colour.
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It will take some time for the world to determine just how good or bad Bush was. I'm of the opinion that as time goes by Bush will be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time.
I admire the man, he held to his convictions during tough times. He made tough choices that drew much heat, but I believe as time passes those choices will be realized as being the right choices. Sure he made mistakes and did some things I didn't agree with but show me a president that didn't. Sure the economy is in bad shape, however it wasn't that way for the whole eight years Bush was in office. In my opinion the problems with the economy today would have happened regardless of who was president. Let's not forget, congress has more control of the economy than what the president does. Congress has many, The White House has but one. People base their opinion off their emotion they feel right now and look for someone to blame, as time passes the opinion of Bush will be based off his actions and not emotions.
I hear many say we should trust Obama and give him a chance. I for one am not a trusting type person. I do not trust anyone until that person shoes me they can be trusted, it doesn't matter if it's a new neighbor or the president or anyone in between. I am willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt but full support and trust must be earned. I look for many to be very disappointed. So many promises have been made that there is no way one man can keep them all. Many people think that just because Bush is out and Obama is in that things will immediately turn around. This is an unrealistic expectation of anyone.
It is my hope that Obama does well for the sake of this country.
I admire the man, he held to his convictions during tough times. He made tough choices that drew much heat, but I believe as time passes those choices will be realized as being the right choices. Sure he made mistakes and did some things I didn't agree with but show me a president that didn't. Sure the economy is in bad shape, however it wasn't that way for the whole eight years Bush was in office. In my opinion the problems with the economy today would have happened regardless of who was president. Let's not forget, congress has more control of the economy than what the president does. Congress has many, The White House has but one. People base their opinion off their emotion they feel right now and look for someone to blame, as time passes the opinion of Bush will be based off his actions and not emotions.
I hear many say we should trust Obama and give him a chance. I for one am not a trusting type person. I do not trust anyone until that person shoes me they can be trusted, it doesn't matter if it's a new neighbor or the president or anyone in between. I am willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt but full support and trust must be earned. I look for many to be very disappointed. So many promises have been made that there is no way one man can keep them all. Many people think that just because Bush is out and Obama is in that things will immediately turn around. This is an unrealistic expectation of anyone.
It is my hope that Obama does well for the sake of this country.
In re: "I'm of the opinion that as time goes by Bush will be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time."
Holy crap CTA...of all time no less? Nothing about illegal wiretaps or suspending the constitution or torturing prisoners bothers you eh?
Due process is what this country is all about but you don't care enough about your country to speak out against suspending our constitutional guarantees? Let's all hope that you follow the constitution in the performance of your duty as a police officer...even though you don't actually believe in it.lease:
Holy crap CTA...of all time no less? Nothing about illegal wiretaps or suspending the constitution or torturing prisoners bothers you eh?
Due process is what this country is all about but you don't care enough about your country to speak out against suspending our constitutional guarantees? Let's all hope that you follow the constitution in the performance of your duty as a police officer...even though you don't actually believe in it.lease:
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