michael parris heuberger
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Hi I received a tax brake, I am working. I could not get a job after they the company I worked for closed under Obama.
Eventually, I’ll be right...
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Mr Brown
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Asthma seems like a more understandable reason than bone spurs.
But we weren't talking about Biden...
White privilege? Nah. They both had wealth privilege.
Not only a draft doger but no one in his family served. Not in WW I, WW II, Korea, Nam, Iraq, nowhere.
Thats Obama's fault? The economy crashed under Bush, Obama walked into office with the banks failing. Trump will leave with the economy failing. Those are facts brother, not lib talk.
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I saw it, but value our forum friendships more than to get involved in an online argument. Neither side is going to change the others mind on this topic.
I respectfully refuse to comment on political posts.
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Mr Brown
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And that's a fair position to take.
michael parris heuberger
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Hi. Fallenarch, Mr Brown and WazzaCBXRider I respect your opinions greatly. I learn a lot from your knowledge. But we see things with different eyes. I see Portland as a big mess. What would you do about it? I know what I would do, but I think it would not be what you would do.
Mr Brown
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It is a mess, but sending in militarized federal agents or the actual military is a recipe for disaster. Have we learned nothing from experience? Wounded Knee, Ruby Ridge, Waco? I know that a military response sounds appealing, but it's ineffective.
I would simply let the stupid run its course, I think most people will lose interest soon enough.
The area where the riots are centered is about 5 x 3 city blocks. The rest of the city is business as usual. As long as this is peaceful (and they are for the most part) I would let people blow off steam. The property damage is done to that area and it's not going to get revitalized until the virus is behind us. I would not let it spread though, using force if necessary. I remember when we had riots here in Virginia Beach. I friend called us from Detroit to see if we were all right, we didn't even know there were riots! Ended up damaging 4 blocks down at the beach and drew national attention.
Currently the riot is not spreading, it's confined. The law enforcement there has determined that the best course of action is to just let this play out. Trump wants to send in troops (probably illegally) against the wishes of the Mayor and Governor. This is what's going on: How Nixon Used the ‘68 Riots to Flip Illinois
Just Trump trying not to face a COVID election. Most of Trump's political moves come from Richard Nixon's Memoirs & Mien Kampf (his wife says those are his obsessions).
I sort of felt that way but i saw so many threads going into right-winged rants. I usually inject myself to slow down the propaganda and inject some opposing facts.
I respect your position though. As I've said before, I would rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not.
Mathewrussell52
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You would you feel the same if the business you worked for or owned was in that 3-5?
Like I said the damage is done. I think those businesses should get a special bailout - make the area better. If I owned one of those businesses I wouldn't want any more blood shed. Making this a win/win would not cost a lot of money. If it were me I would take the money and rebuild or sell and move on. Cities do this all the time with Eminent domain.
PS: We do this sort of thing a lot. Where a riot destroyed a block (never actually done a riot), a mass shooting, or a flood destroyed an area and the city wants a masterplan to redevelop it.
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Mathewrussell52
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So the government should not protect but bail out. You know most of the business own nothing they rent. So who wins in a bail out?
I’m guessing on your views. So tax breaks for business is bad but we should bail them out.
I would assume we would agree on one thing. Big business never loses it’s the people that work for them.
I’m guessing on your views. So tax breaks for business is bad but we should bail them out.
I would assume we would agree on one thing. Big business never loses it’s the people that work for them.
Well the best outcome would have been for the cop not to choke a man in broad daylight in front of the world. But since that happened we have to make the best of it.
Mathewrussell52
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Not sure the owner of a innocent business 3,000 miles away would agree.
I Think best outcome is he goes to prison for life just like any other person that commits murder.
No one believes Floyeds murder was anything but murder.
The court doesn't address systemic problems.
PS: The Portland PD was pretty notorius
These acts are the symptoms, not the problem.
FlatlandBusa
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No they are tired of arguing with the Karen's.
FlatlandBusa
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Typical low information reply. The economy was roaring before covid 19 that china caused.
Mathewrussell52
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What court?? No comment was made about any courts. Portland is less than 4% black. We really justifying business being destroyed. So 100% of the 4% have been oppressed by the police? What % do you consider systemic?
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