Excessive Speed

Is it expensive to go to the track????

I see your from Kansas so your probably familiar with Hallet Speedway in Oklahoma. It's $90- $100 for a track day there, but a 450+ mile round trip drive from my area. At today's gas prices, it costs as much to get there as it does for the track day. I'll be going in the spring but carpooling with friends to keep the travel expenses down some.
 
Track is the preferred place. Ocationally if I'm in the middle of nowhere on a desrted road with good pavement I'll twist the wrist. Generally I find roads with 55 mph speed limits with 25-30 mph suggested speed in the corners.
 
Ummmm okay, sensitive topic for me, as I have witnessed dipsticks doing this all the time in town on sportbikes of a variety. To own a Hayabusa and not think about pushing that needle over means you're lying like a rug....

There is a set of road-rules I abide by, a code of Hayabusa conduct of sorts. I never break this code, nor do I bend these rules, ever.

1) I never run high triples without gear, i.e. full leathers (not just a jacket), leather gloves, helmet, and racing boots (my SVX's are designed for racing, my Dainese are my touring pick). If I bounce, I've got a fighting chance. Yep #1, simply my personal basic rule but that's the first requirement.......

2) If I can't see down the road at least three miles, what's the point anyway ????. I favor long valley sweepers where I can see any oncoming well in advance. I can also see anything going "my" way as well. I'm not into buzzing some elderly person, or a mom with kids at near the top of the needle. I have plenty of experience that says many folks are just plain fearful of motorcycles in general, let alone pass them in a flash. NO BUENO.....Having a Hayabusa blow by you in the opposite direction is enough to keep you looking in the mirror, that's unsafe. Being passed by one can be just plain shocking, causing over-correction or reaction. Realistically, most people on the freeway are clicking along at about a mile a minute. We have the ability to "TRIPLE" that distance in a minute's time. That's 20 second miles people.....

3) If the bike isn't in top-tune, forget about it. Spudley Busa is maintained on a regular basis. Which means if I grab a handful of brake, it stops. If I need traction, I've got plenty of tire at the right pressure. Everything on the bike is torqued, and nothing is missing, i.e. body rivets, screws, fasteners....Daily, sometimes longer, inspections of brake rotors, pads, tires, lines, fairings, etc, for me is common. I'm like everyone else, I like staring at everything, thus, I pick up on maintenance issues.

4) I don't do triples at night...that's just self-explanatory. No wait, allow me. First, if you're not intimately familiar with the highway you ride things change quickly. Did the DOT stop and patch some asphalt today ???....is there foreign matter on the surface from something ???. Also, what happens to small rodents when struck by a wheel at high triples ????.....it explodes and it's body fluid becomes grease on the tire surface. What about a small animals, coyotes, foxes, deer ????......

Even when I come upon an oncoming, I see him at about one mile, which gives me plenty of time to slow to a legal speed. If I start coming up on someone, I shut down and enjoy the ride at legal speeds. GoFaster taught me this the first time he hammered it on the way to Searchlight one evening. It was still light and I believe we hit about 150. That was my first high-speed run, and as soon as we started coming up on traffic, I saw his brake light, which means "Cool it".

Let's put it this way, would you rather be safe and considerate, or get caught by a guy with a badge just "doing his job" and lose your privilege and possibly your Hayabusa ????.......

I know we all have a little Ghostrider in us, but honestly, that guy "is" playing a dangerous game with other people's lives.....all you see is his nose angle in his camera recording...you never see if someone drove themselves off the road behind him..... He's an excellent rider and yet he's also a degenerate.....No offense to Mr. Ghostrider, but some are out there imitating you and getting killed.

There's my two cents, I'm "dead" serious about these rules...... :super:

PS I've heard lots of people make the statement that "anyone can go fast in a straight line"...... I disagree....some make fundamental mistakes at high speeds and get killed, or kill someone else.

PPSS Light me up and I'm pulling to the right.....
 
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and NEVER with a rider (unless it's a burst for some emergency i can't think of). like most have said, if i get scratched up it's on me. not putting anyone else through that if at all possible.
 
TRACK. Maxton Mile or the Texas Mile in Goliad. There is a lot of risk anywhere else, but I have done it. :whistle:
 
If it's not at the track it's on the interstate (controlled access, no head on traffic, engineered surface).

The caveat...only on road I know and have been down that day... guess that makes it speeding in the first degree (premeditated) :laugh:

For miles of staight shot desolation, might I suggest I-94 west of Dickinson, North Dakota.
 
I wouldn't want to run and have the LEO die in a crash BECAUSE I ran...don't think I could live with it on my conscience.
You're on 2 wheels and he's on 4. If he's incompetent enough to crash (I.E. Not knowing when to call it off, or not being able to handle his vehicle) then he shouldn't be out there in the first place.
 
The very first thing to understand is the limits for the riders i.e. new riders and part time riders. 80miles an hours can be too fast for some while 150 mph is a limit for others. After that it is remembering that the faster you go the faster the possible accident. The more traffic the more restrictions. etc.
 
Added, I see more accidents at slow speeds. Cars on cell phones and people not paying attention. If I see someone on a cell phone I will hit 150mph fr a split second just to get away from them.
 
I speed in excess at any time. Triple digit speeds are common place. However never in the city or populated area (obviously), and I always give other drivers room. I'm always geared.
 
I do what maxblack said. I hour from here are a few long straights... no trees,cross roads
etc...I always shut her down if i see a car ahead or going to meet one... :whistle:
 
+1 to Spudley's post.

I don't really have a track nearby for this, but I do know a few desolate back roads in my area that have some 3 mile or better straights with no intersecting roads. When I do decide to twist the grip on a given day, I'm geared up, the bike has been thoroughly checked before even hitting the street, and lastly, I clear the road with a down and back pass before the wind up. I find this extra step necessary, to make sure there aren't any rocks or surprises in the road, as well as checking the shoulders for anything else that might surprise me, such as a stray animal or whatever. Some may laugh about that, but I already feel guilty enough for twistin' it once in a while, being a parent and all... but I cannot and will not deny my need for speed every now and again, as it's been in my blood since I was born. Just my .02.
 
Depends if he is on your tail or gunning at the road side. If he's on my tail, I stop, he's got my number plate anyway. If he's gunning at the roadside I twist it up so they don't bother chasing. We don't have many police copters in Ireland, so when you're gone, you're gone. They don't bother chasing unless it's any easy catch.

Same here. I will travel with the fastest cages on the interstate. If we run past a speed cop I will twist it up unless I see him behind me. Luckily nobody has chased me yet. I am fairly sure I would stop though if the LEO was giving chase. As far as opening it up goes, that only happens on back roads with nobody around but me. I know all the back roads in my area well enough t know where I can let it all hang out.
 
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So my questions to you guys are...

1.) How do you decide where/when to go fast? What are all of the variables that make up the equation? (I know some of you other LEO's have a need for speed from time-to-time as well).:laugh:

2.) What would be an "ideal" place to "twist it up?" (Explain what kind of place/road you prefer).

3.) If LE lights you up, would you stop? (Personally, I don't think it is EVER right to run, it is putting others and yourself in danger. And that includes the LEO that is pursuing).

Thanks guys!:bowdown:

1. I live in a congested metropolitan area so there is no place local to wick it up. Too dangerous

2. However, I have a 20+ mile stretch of road that runs through a 400,000 acre ranch of which there are no side roads, good tarmac, straight line-of-sight and almost non-existent traffic. I pick out a section of road (Usually about 4 miles long) and ride it both directions before lighting up the afterburners. This road is about 35 miles from my residence and has been consistent for me for 25+ years.

3. I had a LEO light me up on this road once but he didn't get me on radar (I went by him too fast and had slowed to close to the speed limit before he caught up to me) so we "negoitiated" on the ticket. So, yes, I do stop.
 
I speed all of the time when I'm by myself. (I'll be honest....it's a busa for crying out loud!) But don't REALLY light it up unless I'm way out of town, out in the middle of nowhere. Like many here, I know a couple of desolate areas (one 6-mile stretch of road in particular) where I go to get my speed fix. This particular road has no intersections...houses...nothing but desert! And, you can see down the entire stretch dang near the full 6 miles. I NEVER speed in the city or neigborhood streets...that's just plain stupid, IMO.
 
Added, I see more accidents at slow speeds. Cars on cell phones and people not paying attention. If I see someone on a cell phone I will hit 150mph fr a split second just to get away from them.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: then you must never be under 150 cause everyone is on the phone
 
I only speed when I think I can get away with it. Its always a gamble no matter what precautions you take or how clear you think the road is. Of course If I was going to take a lie detector test I would never be speeding!:thumbsup:
 
not much can be said that hasnt already been. I considder myself more of a conservative rider than most sport riders i know. I have to know the road very well, and it has to be straight with no intersections or driveways, etc. I would say no trees on the side but that is about a 2-3 hr drive from where I live. I judge the weather... If it looks like rain I will not do it, if it is slightly windy, I wont do it... As soon as I see trafic I slow down.
Im not sure if I would run or not. I havent been in that situation yet.
I always wear the gear. Riding boots, jacket, and helmet. I need to get some new gloves, so I will be wearing those soon. I dont, however wear the pants, which I know is pretty stupid, but I will buy some probably when I do my first track day.
 
The very first thing to understand is the limits for the riders i.e. new riders and part time riders. 80miles an hours can be too fast for some while 150 mph is a limit for others. After that it is remembering that the faster you go the faster the possible accident. The more traffic the more restrictions. etc.

My Brother has made an excellent statement I overlooked.......

Riding at your limit is highly important, thus my statement about some making fundamental mistakes at high speeds.

Bear in mind that when soaring down the highway of choice, things do appear farther away than they really are. It's an illusion of the mind, perception, and the speed. Your perception catches up after a few, but is never truly tuned into the fact that what was in your range of vision is now behind you. "Especially" in high-triples. Adjusting well in advance is simply a necessity, "and" those brakes don't bring you down as fast as they do when you're cruising the freeway. They bite, but speed demands time......
 
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