Gay Riders

[Iced]

 Well Done Wizard!!!!


-So we have one who blasts away without really meaning it...

-We have one who actually signs on to a hate filled POV without any understanding

-We have the voice of reason...  (I think I saw it around here somewhere)


Then there is me, and I am here to run my mouth for a minute.
I just want to leave you all with one thought, especially you honest to goodness, pinheaded, chickensh!t,  freaking Stone age Homophobes...and the message is this!

Gay/Lesbian People are everywhere, you are working with some right now, if your active duty you are fighting beside them, they might have cooked your lunch yesterday, and they will be taking your order this week.  They will be arresting the criminal tonight, they will be putting out the house fire down the road, they might deliver your mail, drive the heavy equipment, clean your teeth, and reset your broken ankle.  They Preach and attend your church, they are taking care of your kids in daycare or in school.

 You know that friendly dude at the bike shop that sells you your accessories?  Yup, could be.  How about your favorite athlete, yeah him too, your NASCAR driver?  Probably not, just a bit to "Necky".   Chances are that someone you love, someone you hang out with or ride with, someone you work with or a family member is gay, but your just too damned closed minded to see it, or they are too damned scared to come forward...

My point is they are everywhere, your interacting with them daily, there is no way around it.  For the most part they are just people like you and me, sure there are the whackos just like there is in any demographic, but if your that scared, that fuggin unsure of your sexuality, or so fuggin self righteous and full of it that you cannot deal with it?  Then put the barrel to your head and pull the trigger!

Fear and ignorance, HATE and Intolerance directed at the Gay/Lesbian Community is no different than supporting those KKK @SSHoles, the Nazi's, the Aryan Nations, The Creativity Movement.  It's the same damn thing, it's fuggin ignorant, it's hate, and it's just plain wrong.

Is the Gay/Lesbian Community free of problems?  Hell NO! They got there issues to work out as well, but damnit this is the 21st century and it's about time for people to pull their heads outta the sand, and wake the fug up.

Gay and Lesbian folks, QUIT WEARING YOUR SEXUALITY ON YOUR SHIRT CUFFS, NOBODY GIVES A FUG!

Everyone else?  WORRY ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, GET OVER IT MOVE THE FUG ON...

RSD isn't serious, he's just doin his thing...

"They're Evvvverywhere"  [insert Twilight Zone Theme Song] Rev, paranoia is part of the process of quitting smoking...  Maybe you and iRiShD should get together and play Paddy Cake, Paddy Cake to relieve some of that paranoia.  

buttplug?



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[Revlis]

iRiShD??? Dude, I think your on to something here...

But it's "They're Everywhere" you silly Canook...

 

[Lovestuds_]

wow what a wide range of voices.

Revlis~ I love what you said!! right on

I wasn't going to bother saying something to rubbersidedown but eh might as well. I have heard it all so it doesn't really bother me anymore. People with your mindset don't make me mad anymore, its more they just make me sad. It just doesn't make since to go out of your way to try and personaly attack people. Why waste your time? If i'm damned and going to hell and your some angel then that should make you happy, we wont have to live with each other after we die. But coming on here or any other site, going up to someones face is just you wasteing your time. what could you be doing instead of sitting there making yourself look like and idiot?
I have no problem with different ideas and beliefs. Infact i incourage it. But what i dont like is when ppl don't have some sort of a reason behind it. Like most ppl against gays will sit there and start to pull stuff from the bible, but who really knows if thats true. And they will site there quotein away while they sit in a hotel room cheating on their wife or husband, or eatin shell fish.(which in the bible are a big no no) At least try to have an intelligent reason behind whatever you beleave in. Don't just beleave what mom and dad say, or uncle bob for that matter. Use your mind go find out for yourself.

I didn't start this to "shop" or whatever ppl are saying. I was just curious. If i wanted to find a man (or women if thats what you want) I wouldn't come here. I came on like an a$$hole cause i thought if i came on strong it would drive away ppl that didn't have nice things to say

But ya that was dumb. but whatever learn from mistakes and move on.

So i'll get off my soap box for now.

 

[1127 TO 1299]

Ya know, this is gettin' scarey, I really wanted to stay out of this one but... Okay, I am going to stay out, only because I think this is all just a hoax just to get us going. He's just playing you guys.

I hope

I don't think it's a hoax.
It's real. It's everywhere specially here working in Manhattan.
I don't care what you fug or sug as long it's not my wife or my dogs or my future kids.

I don't get 'gay pride'

why not hetero pride?

why is it a big deal to be gay,
it seems it's becomming trendy.
girls seems to get along well with gays.
maybe it's a way for a guy to get close to women
and touch, kiss, foundle them and they won't say shid
because 'it doesn't flower (no typo).

maybe I'm jealous!
not!

if I want sumptin in the choco factory i can do it myself
if I want to put my peepee in the choco factory, it does not have to be a male.

I know it's more than that it's tenderness, love and understanding. Like RSD has been trying to convey.

I know a lot of gay people and as long as they are not too effiminate , it's fine with me.

I can say that your the 1st gay rider I have heard of.

Maybe it's taboo in the gay community to ride fast bike!

 

[Iced]

Lovestuds, don't worry too much about iRiShD either, i don't think there is any way to gag this guy

nor get him to swallow his pride.  Maybe one day he'll get all choked up and come here saying he loves all of us.  If I haven't said it already, welcum to the board dood

 So sit/squat/whatever and stay here for both a good and long time.   In the words of Bob Marley, it's all One Love, baby...

So post some pics of the cars u were into... or the exact model of the Busa u want

 I still gotta get mine up in here sometime soon

They guys and gals here love pictures.



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[Iced]

I can say that your the 1st gay rider I have heard of.

u can't be serious

 

[thesnake]

wow-- I don't read a thread for a day or so and look at all the fun I'm missing out on!

I for one got no problem with rubba's views as I don't have a prob with lovestud's... studmuffin's brought his brand of sexuality to the forefront... he's fair game for other's expressing their views. I don't agree, but heh that's freedom of speach at work-- more power to ya. rubba.

 

[thesnake]

Iced-- I've never actually knowingly met a pickle puffer on a bike... I'm sure there out there tho.

 

[Iced]

don't let Rev correct your spelling... it's "they're" and not "there" haha

Every possible type of person is out there doing every possible thing. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

I think Rev made some good observations I was just poking fun at him.

 

[thesnake]

1127:

"I don't get 'gay pride'

why not hetero pride?"


Comment, I work at a very large tech company based out of Santa Clara, CA. They are what they deem supportive of alternative lifestyles. Last year they had "gay month" or something like that and their alternative lifestyle corp group shot out emails daily announcing events. Out of 36,000 employees I was the only one to stand up. Here's a snapshot of my dialog with the company (I send out emails to all 36,000 people!)


original spam form corp:

>>from 12:00-1:00 PM.
>  
>
>>Everyone is welcome!
>>*****************************************************************
>>This email falls under the category of campus business and is
>>approved for distribution by the Boston Area Diversity Council.
>>*****************************************************************
>>
>>In March, xxx argued to the Massachusetts supreme court for
>>seven same-sex couples seeking the right to marry.  Today, she
>>will speak about this emotionally charged and often misunderstood
>>issue in a talk that should be interesting for everyone.
>>
>>Come found out: Why should gays and lesbians receive the equal rights
>>and responsibilities of civil marriage? What's at stake? What are the
>>prospects? How will it affect you?
>>
>>   Who:     xxxx of GLAD
>>   What:    Equal Marriage Rights in Massachusetts and Beyond
>>   When:    Tuesday, June 10, 12:00-1:00pm ET



I replied to all 36k folks with this:


>To whom it may concern,
>
>Could I please be removed from this list asap. I do not agree that promoting a
>particular sexual lifestyle or advocacy for such belongs in the workplace and
>find it mildly offensive. If it is indeed appropriate, I will like to found
>the heterosexual rights clubs and promote the joys of traditional sex while at work.


>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Mark



Some replies I got back (funny shid)


Just delete the email if you don't want to read it. It really is
obnoxious that you find the need to express your bigotry to the rest of
us. Please keep it to yourself in future.

- Jeff


Think for a moment the gay, lesbian, and transgendered people who have found
your email offensive. I for one found your email
inappropiate and equally offensive. I'm affraid that your objection proves the
point that GLBT awareness _is_ a workplace issue.

Thanks,
Macneil


(from HR)
While not gay, lesbian, or trangendered myself I must take issue with
your email.  I don't believe that any of these announcements 'promote' a
particular lifestyle.  The issue here is tolerance/acceptance of people
here without regard to their sexual orientation.  If you don't
agree that we should treat employees without regard to sexual
orientation then you are in disagreement with a stated  policy:
http://hr.central/POLICIES/DOCS/CURRENT_RELEASE/diversity_eeo.html

By accepting employment here, you implicitly accept policies, you
can't pick and choose.



Bravo, Mark
There are many of us who couldn't agree more.
Joan


(manager)
Mark, you just sent this to every employee world-wide?? !!

-Tom


BRAVO!  Well said and WHOLE HEARTEDLY agree!  

Your a brave soul-- hopefully you'll have a job next week!

Marge


Corporate attorney:
Mark,
We need to discuss this with your manager, you, and myself.

Regards,
Lee



Mark,

I just wanted say thanks, and that I agree with you 100 percent.
I would love to had said something as well but I am only a contractor
here on site. I know the company I work for would not anyone to promote
a agenda like this one. I see another person said
to just delete the e-mails but what about the cards on the lunch room
tables, posters and the speaker to actually come and talk about it.
This is offensive to a lot of people so I am glad someone had the willingness
to step forward Thanks.



So what would you think of my suggestion to them for a PWH (poor white heterosexual)
Pride Month here? Jeff and Libba and her friends didn't like the PWH
pride month idea surprisingly enough.
Go figure the lack of inclusiveness they show to my sexual lifestyle!

Kudo's to you for speaking up. I aimed my feedback directly to them
to avoid a flame war on our campus alias. I'm surprised it didn't go that way
with your email but you worded it well.

There is an alias I set up sometime ago at the request of ENS for community
related announcements.
This at least would allow folks to remove themselves without taking themselves
from the necessary normal business announcements.

I hope this is one of many supportive responses to you in your mailbox today.

Cheers!

Perry



...........
The end result, the chief counsel turns out to be the head pickly puffer and founded the deviant society. I was told to cease and decist or face termination. Myh manager quietly said, your a good fighter, but u ain't gonna win this war... pick a new battle if u must. I officially replied, I already made my point publically so there is no use belaboring the issue. However, my opinion is on the record and I do not succomb to unduly peer pressure.

Well I'm still there after 5 layoffs, so I didn't get canned. I always draw some looks tho when in the corp office

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[Postal]

you know whats really funny I had a friend with a fake leg and when I mucked with him he used to hope around after me on his one leg and swing his fake one at me

Too funny dude!

 

[Postal]

wow what a wide range of voices.

Revlis~ I love what you said!! right on

I wasn't going to bother saying something to rubbersidedown but eh might as well. I have heard it all so it doesn't really bother me anymore. People with your mindset don't make me mad anymore, its more they just make me sad. It just doesn't make since to go out of your way to try and personaly attack people. Why waste your time? If i'm damned and going to hell and your some angel then that should make you happy, we wont have to live with each other after we die. But coming on here or any other site, going up to someones face is just you wasteing your time. what could you be doing instead of sitting there making yourself look like and idiot?
I have no problem with different ideas and beliefs. Infact i incourage it. But what i dont like is when ppl don't have some sort of a reason behind it. Like most ppl against gays will sit there and start to pull stuff from the bible, but who really knows if thats true. And they will site there quotein away while they sit in a hotel room cheating on their wife or husband, or eatin shell fish.(which in the bible are a big no no) At least try to have an intelligent reason behind whatever you beleave in. Don't just beleave what mom and dad say, or uncle bob for that matter. Use your mind go find out for yourself.

I didn't start this to "shop" or whatever ppl are saying. I was just curious. If i wanted to find a man (or women if thats what you want) I wouldn't come here. I came on like an a$$hole cause i thought if i came on strong it would drive away ppl that didn't have nice things to say

 But ya that was dumb. but whatever learn from mistakes and move on.

So i'll get off my soap box for now.

Just my .02......

Try this site LS: http://www.exodus-international.org/

 

[VaBusa]

Actually, just for general FYI, there is a gay Busa rider on labusas.org...I'm only saying it so our new member here can possibly make contact with him and find other gay riders if that's what he seeks...I wouldn't recommend you just hop on labusas and announce your preferences, but lurking there long enough will lead you to the guy...

Otherwise...just sit back and contribute when you want/can to all of the great Busa riders here...

 

[Lazerblade]

Another public service from Michelle. That was very kind.

 

[VaBusa]

Another public service from Michelle.  That was very kind.

Hey, I try...

PSA 'Shell, signing off on this thread...

 

[thrasherfox]

Ok, I have not said a whole lot, but what the heck. I guess I will chime in here with a few things.

Lovestuds -

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I don’t have "much" against gay people. Here is the problem I do have however. And this is not directed at you, because I don’t know you, this is just a general statement.

I am a Christian I believe in God and for numerous reasons beyond explanation I am very sure of the accuracy of the bible.

Homosexuality is something God does not want for numerous reasons. End of subject.

Now, with that said and out of the way, it doesn’t mean if you are gay you are a bad person, what it means is if you are living an active gay lifestyle with no remorse and you are kind of thumbing your nose at God about it.. then that is between you and God.

And if you don’t believe in God.. well I guess it doesn’t matter much then does it? But if you do believe in God, then it should matter a lot to you. Your decision.

Just as I had a conversation with a person who practiced WICCA (is that the right spelling?). I never condemned her, we just talked and expressed our individual beliefs, I am cool with that. She then actually thanked me and told me I was the first Christian she had ever met that didn’t condemn her and tell her she was going to hell.

The neat thing about this to me was she told me something I never thought of.

Wicca’s do not believe in Hell, they only believe in God, and I think multiple God's. And if someone does not believe in Hell, what good does it do to tell them they are going there. Their mind cannot assimilate the implications. I never tell anyone they are going to hell, but it was an interesting point of view I never thought of.

Second of all, God is the one who ultimately determines who goes to hell and who doesn’t. The rest of us on this planet are no better or worse than anyone else, we all struggle with our own beliefs, desires, morality's.

Now, with all that said. My problem is this. If someone wants to be gay, whatever, as I said, that is between them and God.

I firmly believe in live and let live. As long as another persons actions do not have a direct or indirect affect on me I pretty much don’t care what they do, it is none of my business.

If I am somewhere and someone is robbing a bank or something, as long as they come, take the money and leave, I don’t care. If however they even look in my direction and I have a hint they are going to personally involve me, I will rip their fricken throats out with my teeth and spit their blood back in their face.

With the whole gay issue, I don’t care what gay people do, as long as it does not directly affect me.

However,  when some fricken judge in San Francisco breaks the law, and allows gays to marry when in California the issue has been raised before and the majority of Californians voted against gay marriages, that to me is having the entire issue forced down my throat.

When my ability to raise my children with the morals I believe in is impacted because someone else wants to force THEIR morality down MY THROAT, that is when I get pissed.

Why do I have to explain to my 6 year old son about sex between two men?

I shouldn’t have to explain anything dealing with sex at all to my 6 year old, he should be outside playing with toys and skateboards, I shouldn’t have to explain to him why it is a big deal about two men getting married, and why everyone is so upset.

I should not have to explain why some priest in the near town is being arrested for child molestation.

The problem is, the gay movement is being so publicized I have to either stay with my kids 24 hours a day to protect them, or I have to explain to them what they see, since I cant be with them 24 hours  day, and since I have a policy of not lying to my kids, I am forced to talk to my kids about sex way before I wanted to. And that is NOT just because of gay issues, sexual immorality is running rampid in the hetro world. So to protect them I have to explain the birds and the bee’s but the gay issue causes more problems.

It is difficult to explain to a 6 year old, or a 10 year old that in my opinion and in the opinion of the church we go to, that homosexuality is wrong, and it is a sin, however don’t judge them, don’t shun them, don’t tease anyone who is gay, don’t ridicule them.

Little kids seem to see in black and white, it is difficult for them to grasp the concept of gray areas in life, and because of this, it is difficult to express to my children what has taken me 42 years to come to terms with.

Just as when I was 19 years old and I was training in martial arts, after a few years I began to have a big moral dilemma with training 5 days a week on how to kill someone as quick and efficiently as possible and then going to church on Sunday’s and being taught forgiveness.

My brain "vapor-locked" and I stopped training for a while and I stopped going to church. I was living what seemed a contradiction. After a year or so I was able to get back in to both after some soul searching you might say

I now have come to terms and have been able to balance martial arts and God and pretty much everything else in my life. If I needed to I think I could probably take someone’s life then pray over them with a true sadness in my heart asking God to forgive them for making me take their life and ask God to take care of them, and honestly mean it.

I have been able to finally find a balance. But I am 42 years old and it has not been an easy road to find that balance.

When all this gay stuff is in the news all the time, and we have people that are forcing the issue and gays are being ministers and my sons see this on T.V and they ask me a question, I have to try and figure out a way to explain it to them so they understand that in our household, it is wrong but not to hold any animosity towards the person, that what they are doing is between them and God.

Kids can be so black and white, they either accept or dont accept, it is difficult for them to accept with conditions.

I want to be able to raise my children with the morality’s that I feel are right AND however raise them so they are not prejudice towards anyone, regardless of race, sex or preferences.

I want to be able to send my children to school and not have them taught being gay is ok, because it isn’t, not in my household.

Why is it ok to teach gay is ok, but it is not ok to teach being gay is not ok? A double standard?

The majority of people on this planet are not gay, when there have been votes whether to allow gay marriages or not, the majority have voted against it.

So why is the minority trying to force their will upon the majority?

Why do gay people push so hard to get approval from the majority through petitions and voting, but when it does nto turn out in their favor they choose to ignore the will of the people?

That is what pisses me off. Basically, I leave the Gay agenda alone as long as it leaves me alone, but once it starts to infringe upon my rights and pushes me, trust me, I WILL push back.

I have relatives that are gay, I accept them AND they accept me, and we respect each others opinions. We don’t try to force anything down each others throats.


So I guess to summarize lovestuds:

You are a person and human being just like anyone else, we are all trying to struggle through this world the best we can. I will not judge you for your lifestyle, I will not attempt to force my morality down your throat as long as your lifestyle is not forced upon me.

I respect the fact that after your initial post, you seem to be cool about everything and not spooling, that is cool and I respect that, I also respect RSD comments and I respect Rev’s comments, everyone has offered up good points from all aspects.

And like I said at my very first post, I don’t go talking about my sexual preferences, I don’t post pics of girls, I don’t post pics of my wife, I don’t talk about my sex life at all. Ever since I have had a sex life, that has always been a private thing. I would go on dates and my buddies would ask me if I “scored†and I would always tell them it was none of their business.

All I ask from gay people is they do the same, keep their sex life to themselves.

And when it is all said and done, the bottom line is being gay is about sex, if it were not, then at the most, a person would be BI.

If someone really is concerned about the mental bond and they say it is not about sex, then they could find that bond with a man or woman, but if you strictly only want to be with someone of a specific sex that has specific sexual parts regardless of them being the same sex or opposite sex, then that is your preference, so the physical aspects of it is very important and it is NOT just about mental and emotional bonding.

So when the gay issue is being brought up in the news media, it is about sexual preference, I am being forced to deal with it, my kids are being forced to deal with it. MY life is being intruded on and I am having something forced upon me.

I am very protective over my family, and when my family or my family unit is being threatened, I get pissed, I get confrontational and I just get plain irritable

And my family reads the Busa board, and when you start a post off with “I am gay and I will kick your ass†now I have to explain to my kids what a “bad-ass gay biker†is lol (ok, that was an attempt at humor, I know you have already apologized for coming off rough at first and I am cool with that) But do you get my point?

Lovestuds – make ya a deal, I wont tell you how awesome women are and wont give you step by step details of my sex life as long as you show me the same respect.

And I forgot who it was that made this comment, actually I think it was Stunnah, but like what was said earlier, half the people on the board could be gay and or bi and no one would ever know. It is just not discussed and it just doesn’t matter, as long as it does not become a focus point.


Ok, I am done with my rant, I could not let rev out do me for number of lines in a post muah ha ha.



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[BigDawg_03Busa]

wow-- I don't read a thread for a day or so and look at all the fun I'm missing out on!

Same here snake, man this thread has exploded.

 

[Thinker62]

And a lot less was written about the pending '05 Busa?

I am at a loss.

 

[thesnake]

I got me an 04, so I don't give a hoot bout 05.

 

[Thinker62]

I got me an 04, so I don't give a hoot bout 05.

Man did you open yourself up on that one. You have an '04, so you are not interested in '05 Busa information.

One might ask what makes you interested in this subject?....something you don't have yet?