got myself in some trouble, how bout some advice?

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well before i start, please refrain from comments about me being irresponsible and stupid, i am already aware of the consequences of my actions and would rather not hear how poor of a decision i made, thanks for understanding............

well i was with a buddy last night speeding around town (i had a passenger on my bike) a state trooper pulled up behind us and attempted to pull us over -- he took off so naturally i took off as well..........well i was somewhat unfamiliar with my area (first mistake) and had a passenger who was terrified for her life, screaming and crying for me to let her off, which didnt allow me to concentrate on the road (the cop says he followed me becuz he knew i was at a disadvantage with her) at one point another officer almost turned in front of me (i believe if i didnt have a girl on board he would have tried to make me hit him -- they threw out spikestrips at my boys bike one night goin 140 and he didnt even have a helmet) well they followed me for a while and when i slowed down quite a bit to get on a sharp interstate ramp to cross the state line, he pulled up beside me and then got in front so i was forced to stop -- they booked me into jail on misdemeanor flight to avoid and misdemeanor willful reckless driving.............

now, im on basic probation cuz of an incident last year, and im hoping they dont revoke it so i hafta do the rest of my term (7 months in jail)......hopefully they can just bump me up to intensive supervised probation or something, but then again these are still TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS, not like i was doin drugs and failed a UA......and i know ya'll have some experiences with running and getting caught, what do you think will happen when i go to court (ill get a good lawyer) will i just get a hefty fine or will they take my license (for about the last 2 1/2 - 3 years my driving record is very clean) -- think ill be able to keep my license? what have you guys seen / heard about? thanks for any advice..........
 
I would expect the worst and pray for the best. Definitely get a good lawyer cause those charges are not just traffic charges, they are criminal misdemeanor charges. I would think you'll probably either get your probation reinstated or do some minimal time. I'm no lawyer, that's just what I think from what I've heard over time.
 
Good luck man, sounds like you need to regroup and change gears in your life a little.  That was really foolish.

How old are you BTW?



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I know it's harsh to say this but if you ran with a passenger on the bike with you, you should get the book thrown at you. Risking your own life is one thing but doing it with a girl on the back with you is 10 times worse. It's not just a TRAFFIC VIOLATION.
 
well before i start, please refrain from comments about me being irresponsible and stupid, i am already aware of the consequences of my actions....

..... but then again these are still TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS, not like i was doin drugs and failed a UA......
ummm...what?

sorry dude, you may be aware of the consequences after the fact, but when you were on the bike - with a passenger no less - what in the hell were you thinking?

so it was a traffic violation...it's a bit of a different degree than simply going a bit over the limit, no?
 
yeah, running is stupid. but if you do it. you do it.

But jeeez man, to do it with a passenger?

You shouldn't be worried about how easy you are going to get off. You should be thankful you didn't kill the girl on the back who was trusting you with her life. Then you would have been up on involuntary manslaughter charges.

I would say all in all you got off easy even if you do 7 months in jail.

since you are worried about what's going to happen to you that tells me right off the bat you have not been humbled by this experience, meaning you didn't learn nothing..

Sorry dude. if you were by yourself I just would have ignored this. But jeez.. running with a passenger?

You are probably in some serious stuff. and as much as I hate to say it, because I don't think you deserve to get off light, but shid happens, not like I haven't done anything stupid. Heck I have done lots of stupid things. So with that said, here is the best advice I can give you.

Sounds to me like you need to find the best fricken lawyer you can get, plead insanity, plead peer pressure, offer to go into the Marines, something. But Yeah, I agree with the lawyer thing, I don't think you stand a chance of not doing jail time without a lawyer.

If it were me? maybe get a lawyer, sell the motorcycle and make the judge aware that you have sold the motorcycle, show him the sales receipt, offer to have some kind of stipulation that you wont buy another motorcycle for lets say 3 years or something.

Fall on the mercy of the court, even if you don't realize you screwed up, make them think that you realize how bad things could have turned out and you are real sorry.

To help you with that, sit down and make your mind imagine what it would have been like if the cops had pulled out in front of you and your passenger got killed. Or your passenger got killed and you were paralyzed. Or maybe your passenger got killed and one of the cops got killed that were just doing there job.

Then think about how the girls mom and dad would have felt. Think about having to look them in the eyes knowing you killed their daughter. Just make your mind imagine how much worse if could have been.

Write an apology letter to the girl AND her parents for risking her life. Be sincere and show a copy to the judge.

basically grovel dude. And be sincere about it. Any sign of arrogance on your part or if the judge has ANY slight idea you are playing him, or that you don’t understand the severity of this, he / she will probably hammer you.

I have friends who are judges, I have friends who work for the DA, they have seen so much BS, you cant BS them, and if they see no remorse, they will hammer you to make you feel remorse.

As I said, not like I haven’t ever done anything stupid.. so.. good luck with your situation. I am glad I am not in it….



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, but then again these are still TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS, not like i was doin drugs and failed a UA......and i know ya'll have some experiences with running and getting caught, what do you think will happen when i go to court (ill get a good lawyer)  will i just get a hefty fine or will they take my license (for about the last 2 1/2 -  3 years my driving record is very clean)  -- think ill be able to keep my license?   what have you guys seen / heard about?    thanks for any advice..........
"Just a traffic violation" "not like drugs or something" You put someones life in danger !! You could've killed her or someone else !! Sorry if I don't simpathize with you and no i've never been Stupid enough to run from the cops. Don't worry 7 months isn't to long .
 
yeah, running is stupid. but if you do it. you do it.

But jeeez man, to do it with a passenger?

You shouldn't be worry about how easy you are going to get off. You should be thankful you didn't kill the girl on the back who was trusting you with her life. Then you would have been up on involuntary manslaughter charges.

I would say all in all you got off easy even if you do 7 months in jail.

since you are worried about what's going to happen to you that tells me right off the bat you have not been humbled by this experience, meaning you didn't learn nothing..

Sorry dude. if you were by yourself I just would have ignored this. But jeez.. running with a passenger?

You are probably in some serious stuff. and as much as I hate to say it, because I don't think you deserve to get off light, but shid happens, not like I haven't done anything stupid. Heck I have done lots of stupid things. So with that said, here is the best advice I can give you.

Sounds to me like you need to find the best fricken lawyer you can get, plead insanity, plead peer pressure, offer to go into the Marines, something. But Yeah, I agree with the lawyer thing, I don't think you stand a chance of not doing jail time without a lawyer.

If it were me? maybe get a lawyer, sell the motorcycle and make the judge aware that you have sold the motorcycle, show him the sales receipt, offer to have some kind of stipulation that you wont buy another motorcycle for lets say 3 years or something.

Fall on the mercy of the court, even if you don't realize you screwed up, make them think that you realize how bad things could have turned out and you are real sorry.

To help you with that, sit down and make your mind imagine what it would have been like if the cops had pulled out in front of you and your passenger got killed. Or your passenger got killed and you were paralyzed. Or maybe your passenger got killed and one of the cops got killed that were just doing there job.

Then think about how the girls mom and dad would have felt. Think about having to look them in the eyes knowing you killed their daughter. Just make your mind imagine how much worse if could have been.

Write an apology letter to the girl AND her parents for risking her life. Be sincere and show a copy to the judge.

basically grovel dude. And be sincere about it. Any sign of arrogance on your part or if the judge has ANY slight idea you are playing him, or that you don’t understand the severity of this, he / she will probably hammer you.

I have friends who are judges, I have friends who work for the DA, they have seen so much BS, you cant BS them, and if they see no remorse, they will hammer you to make you feel remorse.

As I said, not like I haven’t ever done anything stupid.. so.. good luck with your situation. I am glad I am not in it….
All of the above!!!!
 
Get the very best lawyer there is i your area, he can help,You will probably pay in some form,either in money or time in jail, but the lawyer will get you the very best deal the prosecuter is willing to offer.As you stated, you had a passenger, this will get the book thrown at you, so expect it.NJ.
 
If you have truely realised the magnitute of your insane actions, Then be ready to face the consequenses too!! You have to realise that in life there is something called as "karma" ... and it does work.

Having said that... do like all the others advised you!! Get yourself a lawyer.
 
well, let me see..

you pulled a totally idiotic dangerous stunt, recklessly endangered your own, your passenger's, and the lives of any innocents you somehow managed not to pull into your little fantasy world, racked up 2 misdemeanor charges, and then had the awe-inspiring brilliance to admit to it in a public forum.

Dude, maybe a couple (more) months in jail are what you need. Obviously the first stint didn't help much with your attitude.

Again to recap: totally brain dead stunt with complete lack of any sort of accountability or signs of remorse (other than the "oh fvck, my life is now potentially screwed, wish i hadn't gotten caught" kind), got busted, now crying "I'm so sorry".

This is total bullsh!t. You did the crime badly enough to get busted, do the time and quit whining. I'd be willing to bet that if the cops hadn't caught you, you'd be on this or some other forum bragging. Try to learn something from this experience. Grow up and take responsibility for your life and actions.

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and stop being such a poser. Read your own signature

"strength does not come from winning. your struggles develop your strengths. when you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength."

Not surrendering here means not giving in to your own weakness by trying to get out on sympathy or a technicality, and accepting responsibility for your actions.



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Write an apology letter to the girl AND her parents for risking her life. Be sincere and show a copy to the judge.

as mentioned above, I would also add an apology to the police officers and the court involved. Apologize to the Judge for taking his time to hear your case that was the stupidest thing you ever done (I hope)
 
get a GREAT lawyer.....

it seems that with a great lawyer you could get out of anything... picture OJ, Michael Jackson, and that Blair guy.. oh wait they were all famous... oh well... good luck
 
..........well i was somewhat unfamiliar with my area (first mistake) and had a passenger who was terrified for her life, screaming and crying for me to let her off, which didnt allow me to concentrate on the road
This is the part that REALLY gets to me
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This clearly shows that you have no respect for your passenger or her safety. She is scared to death, and all you can worry about is how she is affecting your concentration.

Be VERY glad that that wasn't my daughter, because you probably wouldn't have to worry about the judge's ruling. You would be glad to be put behind bars to keep me off of your azz.

Honestly, I hope they hammer you for running WITH A PASSENGER. It's called Wreckless Endangerment". Was she a minor (under 18)? If so, your could be truely fugged.

Take whatever punishment you get and LEARN something from it.
 
Dude!

The only advice I have is that you should have damn well pulled over. Your buddy took off, and naturally you can think for yourself...

I can tell you that if I were your P.O. I'd have left your butt in jail on a hold and be requesting a revocation hearing as we speak...



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Grasshopper as you now see, you were not able to snatch the pebble from his hand.
So you must now reflect upon your choice of actions and find your own solutions.
 
..........well i was somewhat unfamiliar with my area (first mistake) and had a passenger who was terrified for her life, screaming and crying for me to let her off, which didnt allow me to concentrate on the road
This is the part that REALLY gets to me
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This clearly shows that you have no respect for your passenger or her safety.  She is scared to death, and all you can worry about is how she is affecting your concentration.

Be VERY glad that that wasn't my daughter, because you probably wouldn't have to worry about the judge's ruling.  You would be glad to be put behind bars to keep me off of your azz.

Honestly, I hope they hammer you for running WITH A PASSENGER.  It's called Wreckless Endangerment".  Was she a minor (under 18)?  If so, your could be truely fugged.

Take whatever punishment you get and LEARN something from it.
+1 here.
Only I'm not so sure that you would be all that safe from me in jail. I would probably get arrested just to get in there with you. I can't believe you actually expected people here to not be upset and tell you about it. It has been mentioned on here quite often about how stupid it is to run. There is a guy on here selling all his stuff just because of a traffic violation, and you want to find some way out of it. Have some integrity and own up to your crime and face the consequences. IMO they should take your license, car and mc. But hey, I'm a #####.
 
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