How much metal is too much in the oil pan?

[Berlin Germany]

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I ask because that TSB didn't come up in my searches originally only listing 08+ in the "affected models/yrs" Suzuki put on it.

i repeat it the 101st time

the stud issue , described in service bulletin 199 , is not only at the ´08 & ´09
BUT
at all busa from ´99 to ´20 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the limiting to ´08 and ´09 is a damn nonsense and ignores all the "field" experiances.
so your clutch crash can happen at all of em !

only at the ´21 suzuki "learned" that the spring support stud needs the thread locker - visible at the new spare part 214181-24F32 WITH this orange locker at the outer thread
as "kojak" shows here in his shop .
but this stud is for only use at the gen2 and 3 - NOT at the gen1.

 

[tnarmyng]

Could minor flywheel/stator contact be caused by the clutch issue I was having?

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Are these trashed?

i repeat it the 101st time

the stud issue , described in service bulletin 199 , is not only at the ´08 & ´09
BUT
at all busa from ´99 to ´20 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the limiting to ´08 and ´09 is a damn nonsense and ignores all the "field" experiances.
so your clutch crash can happen at all of em !

only at the ´21 suzuki "learned" that the spring support stud needs the thread locker - visible at the new spare part 214181-24F32 WITH this orange locker at the outer thread
as "kojak" shows here in his shop .
but this stud is for only use at the gen2 and 3 - NOT at the gen1.

That was old msg, sorry. Concern now is only stator/flywheel damage. Is it minor and ok, or trashed?

 

[202mphbusa]

That was old msg, sorry. Concern now is only stator/flywheel damage. Is it minor and ok, or trashed?

Ohm it out and see
should be fine

 

[tnarmyng]

Ohm it out and see
should be fine

Flywheel balance ok you think?

 

[202mphbusa]

yeah it's fine,
perfect world replace it

My own bike I would use it til winter and I could find a replacement
but it would go in for now

 

[tnarmyng]

yeah it's fine,
perfect world replace it

My own bike I would use it til winter and I could find a replacement
but it would go in for now

Did you see the broken lip on the stator?

 

[Berlin Germany]

Flywheel balance ok you think?

if you wanna be 100% sure, test a "new" rotor without any damages
the small dent in your rotor picture should have no effect unless your battery is not charging properly.

the magnetism of the rotor you can´t measure with standard devices.

 

[Berlin Germany]

Did you see the broken lip on the stator?

i guess this broken lip at one "anchor" won´t cause any issues - it is only formed to keep the wires at their place

 

[tnarmyng]

i guess this broken lip at one "anchor" won´t cause any issues - it is only formed to keep the wires at their place

Also it seems to have been grinding on the flywheel. Maybe because of my previous issue with the clutch????

 

[202mphbusa]

if it worries you that much, you can find one on ebay for like $70
maybe someone on here has one laying around they would let go cheaper

 

[SSGT_B]

If you have concerns, replace it. They are inexpensive in the grand scheme of things. Plus you will have piece of mind knowing it’s new

 

[Bumblebee]

If you have concerns, replace it. They are inexpensive in the grand scheme of things. Plus you will have piece of mind knowing it’s new

Yep, not much worse than being left on the side of the road just to save a few bucks...

 

[tnarmyng]

no manual available yet ?

then stop here with all your work and get it first as an absolutely necessary basis for all further work
then read it line by line at the "motor" part and follow those descriptions in the manual.

anything else would be sheer nonsense!

and for tech. questions - the motor itself of gen2 is nearly 99.5% built equal to gen1 - so even you have a gen2 you can use the manual´s part "motor" of the gen1 (and other way around).
the torques for instance, as far as i remember, are the same - but nobody can remember them all while assembling !
so a re-assembly without a manual is, in my opinion, utter madness !

watch the prescribed torques in the manual
and
it is imperative to observe the prescribed tightening sequence of the screws (´n nuts)

but !
the art.-no´s differ sometimes a bit in special parts !!!

so, if youre looking for numbers of spare parts, look at my page at
a. gen1 - microfiches
b. gen2 - microfiches

Links are down...?
Repost please

 

[Berlin Germany]

Links are down...?
Repost please

yes, sorry for a better overview , i had to redesign the formerly 2 links to 3 links (see below in 3 colors)

because google doesn´t take the new main-page (yet?) to translate
here the direkt links to
microfiches ´99 - ´07
microfiches ´08-´12
microfiches ´13-´16

 

[tnarmyng]

FINALLY!

Not bad for first build 100% solo (aside from help from all you lovely people)

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[Berlin Germany]

@tnarmyng

your reference to google drive in all honors
but I myself want to have as little to do with them as possible, let alone that I put in any information there and then maybe get massive stress because of a possible violation of copyrights - remember - NSA etc. is "greeting".
thanks for that crap.

 

[Berlin Germany]

i repeat it the 101st time

the stud issue , described in service bulletin 199 , is not only at the ´08 & ´09
BUT
at all busa from ´99 to ´20 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the limiting to ´08 and ´09 is a damn nonsense and ignores all the "field" experiances.
so your clutch crash can happen at all of em !

only at the ´21 suzuki "learned" that the spring support stud needs the thread locker - visible at the new spare part 214181-24F32 WITH this orange locker at the outer thread

lill correction and all-clear - caused by my experiances the last 3 , 4 weeks

they used the thread locker at the studs i guess from 2013 on (at least it seems so) .

i found it out
because at two 2013s i took out one stud and at both the stud had a (orange) thread locker on his outer thread .

so i suppose the danger of loosening studs and followed by that demolished / shattered / ruined clutches & transmissions should finally be prevented .

but my warning for the busas of ´99 - ´12 and their clutch studs persist for 100% !