How will you vote? Will you vote?

How will you vote? Will you vote? -

  • 1. McCain

    Votes: 119 100.0%

  • Total voters
    119
depends which one is going to give me more stuff for free...  

My vote can be bought with socialized medical care, free housing (or at least cut my mortgage in half), free food, free cars....    did I miss anything?        after all, not going to cost us a dime right?   Just back up and let the bad guys take over the world, and give the billions we save preserving Democracy to me.....


(that was pretty politically neutral huh?)
Sure was!

Senator Harry Reid
 
The only reason I want to see Obama win is so I can see him be assassinated, just like 50 cent predicted.  But basically no matter what we are screwed.
What an ignorant wretch! WuzUbrawtupbadorsumthin?
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Fitty cent prediction...now (that's) funny! There's a political predictor for all of us...
 
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BUSA_CHeMiST @ Aug. 05 2008 said:
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I guess you guns is more important then anything else, huh?

McCain, Bush, Big Oil...one happy family.

http://infogiant.wordpress.com/?s=bush+mccain
Yeah, this isn't liberally biased huh...
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Those are facts.. I guess they could be liberally biased too.

* 1991 - **** Cheney, during the first Gulf war begins to privatize the military and hires an oil servicing company called Halliburton to take on random duties such as feeding troops. The are paid millions of dollars to research a privatization of the military plan.
* 1995 - **** Cheney is appointed CEO of Halliburton.
* 1998 - **** Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, & Paul Wolfowiz participate in a think tank that concludes that we need to invade Iraq to lock up oil for the 21st Century. Letter is sent to then President Clinton asking him to do as much. Think tank concludes in their document titled "Rebuilding America's Defenses"￾ (link) that there would need to be a "new Pearl Harbor"￾ to allow a political climate to invade Iraq.
* **** Cheney receives $20 million for quitting his job as CEO. Has received $12 million in pay and $39 million in stock options over his 5 year reign. Stock will go up 10x in the eight years to come.
* 2000 - Oil at $11 dollars a barrel.
* 2000 - Bush Claims election; Cheney sets up team to determine who will serve in the cabinet including Rumsfeld. Tries to get Wolfowiz in as CIA chief which is rebuked. Wolfowicz is instead set up as Rumsfeld's Defense Secretary and puts together a plan for war. Florida recount halted as it neared completion, Bush "wins"￾ election despite less votes in nation and Florida.
* 2000 - Cheney sets up shadow CIA office, meant to question the CIA's actual analysis. They were fixing evidence to go to war with Iraq even before 9/11 according to 2 cabinet members (Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil & Terrorism Czar Richard Clarke).
* 2001 - Clarke says all evidence points to an upcoming attack and pleads with Condi Rice for a meeting with the President. Unable to get one as Bush has downgraded the Terrorism Czar to a non-cabinet level position. Clarke told that he's worrying too much about Al Quaida.
* 2001 - Richard Clarke explains to Bush that Iraq is not involved with the 9/11 attack and that the attack came from Al Quaida; Bush tries to intimidate Clarke into giving him an answer that Iraq and the attacks were linked.
* 2002 - Bush nominates Joseph Smitz to become the Defense Department's inspector general. 77 Companies are awarded, by Smitz, $42 Billion in contracts as of 2005.
* 2002 - Bush gives state of nation speech detailing Iraq's attempts to obtain nuclear weapons (yellowcake) despite the CIA scratching that from his speech due to it being false. Ambassador Joe Wilson writes an article detailing that this was a false statement after going to Africa to look into the assertion. Wilson's Wife, a CIA agent, has her secret identity as an agent outed by several in the White House in retaliation for publicly going against the War effort"¦Plames' overseas contacts are jeopardized. Bush vows to fire anyone involved. (update: Cheney, Rove, and Scooter Libby were involved. Libby goes to jail for lying to grand jury. Noone is fired, Libby serves no time when Bush commutes sentence.)
* 2003 - The White House "mistakenly"￾ reported tubes that were no stronger than bicycle seat aluminum, were actually nuclear tubes to put increased fear into the public.
* 2003 - Bush invades Iraq
* 2003 - Halliburton gets whistle blown on them for receiving $1.4 Billion in no bid contracts to build bases, feeding troops, and providing logistics to search for Weapons of Mass destruction.
* 2005 - Halliburton Whistleblower is demoted & then fired.
* 2004 - "Downing Street Memo"￾ leaked from England. 2002 top secret memo from a British security meeting saying that Great Britain needed to prepare for war because the U.S. was fixing evidence around the policy to go to war.
* 2004 - Blackwater donates hundreds of thousands George W. Bush's re-election campain. T. Boone Pickens funds the Swift Boat Veterans for "truth"￾ who lie about John Kerry's war record.
* 2005 - Joseph Smitz resigns after being accused of interfering with criminal investigations about inappropriately awarded contracts. Mr. Smitz's job at the DoD was to oversee contracts with a mandate to prevent waste, fraud and abuse in the Pentagon.
* 2005 - Joseph Smitz takes the job as the CEO at the Prince Group, Blackwater's Parent Company.
* 2006 - Mercenary soldiers company, Blackwater, kills 11 innocent Iraqis in the streets of Baghdad. No criminal charges are filed as they have immunity signed into law by the new US run government in Iraq the day before the war started. U.S. Troops enjoy no such immunity.
* 2007 - 1/10 soldiers in Iraq and 1/3 of war spending goes to contractors in Iraq. In the first Gulf War, the number was 1/100.
* 2007 - Annual contract with Blackwater reaches $500 million. In 2001 it was $1 million. Awarded a narcoterrorism contract that could be worth $15 Billion & made $73 million for Katrina related security.
* 2008 - Halliburton under investigation for: Overcharging the government by billions of dollars, missing cash, building showers that electrocute soldiers who use them. Eleven troops have died in Halliburton built showers. No oil found in shower drains drilled by Oil Servicer Halliburton or their spinoff company KBR.
* 2008 - Halliburton stock 1000% higher than late 2001.
* 2008 - U.S. stock market is stagnant compared to 2001.
* 2008 - T. Boone Pickens has used wealth from Oil to buy up West Texas land with water supply and is building wind farms, to corner the energy and water supply markets once his current product has is dry in the well and has polluted enough to drive up world temperatures and dry up water supplies.
* 2008 - Oil sniffs $150 per barrel. Cost to drill for oil is largely unchanged. By default, oil revenue is up 1000-1500% since 2000.
* 2008 - Exxon and three other companies receive no bid contracts to Iraqi Oil fields previously held by Russia and China under the Sadam leadership.
* 2008 - Exxon brings in a profit of $83,000 per minute. (update: $88,000/minute"¦and growing)

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They all have lobbyists in thier ears pushing them one way or the other. I dont really trust any of them. I am voting independent from now on. Bring Perot back. If anything SNL will have good material.
 
depends which one is going to give me more stuff for free...

My vote can be bought with socialized medical care, free housing (or at least cut my mortgage in half), free food, free cars.... did I miss anything? after all, not going to cost us a dime right? Just back up and let the bad guys take over the world, and give the billions we save preserving Democracy to me.....


(that was pretty politically neutral huh?)
Sure was!

Senator Harry Reid
what you think I had some kind of "hidden" agenda ?

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hehe, My wife woulda voted for Obamma, only reason she gave for not voting for McCain was "He's Old"
Did I mention I getting divorced?....lol
 
I'm always amazed how heated the debates can be in a political thread....no matter what kind of forum it is on.
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As for me....I like my guns, my Budweiser and my own personal medical insurance ....Go McCain !!
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I guess you guns is more important then anything else, huh?

McCain, Bush, Big Oil...one happy family.

http://infogiant.wordpress.com/?s=bush+mccain
Well..yeah they are (except maybe my Busa  
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Actually I use it as a litmus test.

1-If a canadate can't figure the 2nd ammendment out as in ignoring the constitution and trying to legislate out gun crime (it's already a crime thank you, etc, etc) then it represents a fundimental flaw in their thinking process (their noodle is fuged up). They legislate more with emotion than with logic...like the worthless "Clinton Gun Ban"  
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2-I understand what your saying about "big oil" but Obama said "It's not the high price of oil that is the problem, it's that it rose to fast and did not allow consumers time to get acclimated to the new price"...
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he basically said the peasants didn't have time to adapt....
Couple that with his position of no new drilling, no repealing of federal gas tax (not sure how I feel on that one, they'll get there money from us somewhere), and no nukes...
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I personally believe it's time for a revolution and we use the 2nd ammendment for what it was designed for...to take back our own government...
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  it's time for a revolution.
 
Once again I say - THIS IS NOT A TWO PARTY SYSTEM!!!
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Obama and McCain are two flavors of icing from one big shid cake that's been slowly burying this country for decades.
 
Hey Folks,
I gotta admit that I find it a little surprising when I see folks who seem to take an honest interest in politics stating that McCain is a carbon copy of Bush...Other then loosely(very loosely) being members of the same party, and actually agreeing that military action should be coordinated by folks who have spent their whole adult life doing it(what a concept), they aren't common bedfellows and have parted ways on several diverse topics. Bush is a fairly heavy right leaning conservative Republican, and McCain is a very Liberal, strongly left leaning Barely a Republican/Democrat.
I guess compared to Obama, McCain is more like Bush, but he's hardly four more years of Bush politics...
Respectfully,
Harry
PS
Yes, to me it is about our guns. The Second Amendment protects the rest...It's about freedom and liberty, not a socialist experiment
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I don't agree with much of McCains positions but Obama hasn't told me anything solid yet to agree with. All I know is he wants "change" but has no plan to inact such change. With that and his history of forgein policy I can not stand behind him. I do not think he will make the proper decisions to end the war in victory and renew our economy (which is inevidable, according to history, when departing from war). I wanted Huckabee but I will vote McCain for lack of a better option. I also believe that elections need to start being publically funded so the average joe can have a shot of being heard. It's not that the two party system is broke, it's that the rich
man system has control and we need to even that playing feild. just my opinion
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