I didn't go to work today and need to "calm down"

[JINKSTER]

I normally work 1/2 day saturdays but..been on several hot. complex machining jobs...3D cnc milling...and here's the deal..

My 2nd shift night man has about 2 years experience as a machinist...he's a defunct pilot that gave up piloting as a "Airplane Repo Man"...gone HD riding badazz newbie machinist...and day after day I get all the machining programs written,the job set-up and tooling ready for the next operations for BOTH shifts...so alls he hasta do is come in and upload the programs and press the cycle start buttons as his limited machining knowledge won't let him progress past anything I've already set up for him.

Yet night after night he arrives to work (usually to late for a good "Tie In") and when I attempt to talk and pass critical info unto him?...I can get maybe 2-3 sentences out of my mouth before he takes controlling command of the conversation with ideas of his own of how things should be done...most of which are out in left field as he desperately tries to impress me with what little knowledge he does have...and I've been patient...for months now...until last night when in short things went like this...

He shows...I start trying to fill him in...he rips me about how we should have more planning done and programs and tools ready (despite the fact that as usual?..I had far more prepared and ready for him to do than he could accomplish in a night) and that's when I lost it...

I got pi$$ed and told him...

"Wait a second here...I've NEVER let you down or left you hanging short of planning, tooling or programs...and I work hard everyday to make sure you get to come in here for an easy night of loading programs and pressing buttons leaving you with zero excuses NOT to get the job done yet your clueless azz comes in here controlling tie in conversations and ripping me up like you think you should be running the place?..WTF!!!"

then he blew...screaming back with...

"YA KNOW WHAT!...F!U! AZZHOLE!!!...AND IF I EVER CATCH YOU TALKING SHID BEHIND MY BACK?...I'M TAKING YOUR AZZ OUT TO THE PARKING LOT!!!"

now...at this point I had no clue what brought that last remark on so I challenged him with..

"WHAT SHID HAVE I EVER SPOKE ABOUT YOU BEHIND YOUR BACK!!!"

HIM: "I DON'T KNOW BUT I'M TELLING YOU THIS...IF I EVER HEAR ABOUT IT HAPPENING?...YOU'LL BE MEETING ME IN THE PARKING LOT!!!"

and that's when I went psycho sceaming back at him...

"ARE YOU THREATENING ME?..ARE YOU FUGG'ING THREATENING ME!!!...TELL YA WHAT AZZHOLE...DO WHAT YOU SAY RIGHT NOW...AND DO THE SHID YOU SPEAK RIGHT FUGG'IN HERE RIGHT NOW!!!

and at this point?...I was all puffed up and square in his face looking him dead in his eyes and...i got to watch his eyes get as big as silver dollars as he realized that he did in fact just threaten me...and that I was calling him out on it right away, right here, at the moment, right now...ready to go at it...and his response to that was...

"FUG YOU AZZHOLE!!! YOU WANT A BUTTON PUSHER THAN FIND SOMEBODY ELSE CAUSE I AIN'T RUNNING YOUR MACHINE!!!"

as he flipped me off walking away down the isle...as all shop eyes were upon us now...as I stood there already zipped up in my Pheonix Jacket Ready to Go The He11 home but left now trying to decide of wether to stay and finish the cut my machine was making or?..just shut it down and go home...for about 5 minutes as I lit a cigarette still shaking from the prospect of being ready and prepared to engage this threatening fugger moments ago....as he walked to the other side of the shop to run a diffent machine...then?...walked back to me and started apologizing...a lot...telling me in the old days they'd sometimes resolve things at the local ymca with boxing gloves...meanwhile?..I thinking..."You clueless mf'er...the last thing on my mind is the ymca and boxing gloves ain't even in my mental picture"...more like throat, balls and a glock if all else fails...threatening me with physical violence on my job!!!

anyways...here it is saturday and I'm still smoking over this azzhole...any advice?

L8R, Bill.

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[Don Hardcastle]

Well Bill,
I can't say that I blame you. Are you the supervisor or do you both work for someone else? I don't really see how anyone could fault you for defending yourself.

JMHO
Don

 

[06BUSA]

Take a emergency vacation and see what kind of progress is made will you are off. He doesn't sound to bright. I would love to have everything planned and preped like that. I beening a little sharper then your co-worker, I think, would like working with you.

 

[GSXRFANN]

Man, just let the shid go! It really isn't worth lsong a good job over. Just tell your supervisor what happened and request that (the azzhole) work on another machine instead of yours. That way, you won't have to worry about any more confrontations with him. Then if he keeps talking shid, then take him OFF of company property, OFF of company time, and beat the hell out of him!

 

[yamahor]

Get his ass fired and hire me. Sounds like a fun, good paying job I'd love to have. mmmmm....... Florida.... Good looking women in bikinis.... someone that loads my work into machines for me each night.... the easy life.

 

[Warputer]

You called his bluff Jinks . You won and he won't forget it . So have a beer and enjoy your weekend . Come Monday at shift change , he should be a different person ..........unless he's a complete MORON .

 

[JINKSTER]

Well Bill,
   I can't say that I blame you.  Are you the supervisor or do you both work for someone else?  I don't really see how anyone could fault you for defending yourself.

JMHO
Don

we have no supervisors or leadmen...owner keeps the over-head and confusion down by not having them...figures why should he take his smatest most skilled guys and stick a cup of coffee in their hand and tun'em into glorified babysitters...i thought it a great concept...but also figured i'd be working around adults who knew how to act and behave as such...and to think this guy was supposed to be a professional pilot?..yet he's combative and controlling and all because he's insecure as shid?...I'm baffled.

 

[JINKSTER]

You called his bluff Jinks . You won and he won't forget it . So have a beer and enjoy your weekend . Come Monday at shift change , he should be a different person ..........unless he's a complete MORON .  

the scary part of that is at this point?...I'd hafta lean towards the "moron" concept...i mean where's this guy think he's at and he obviousely has no clue what he's fugging with when he fugs with me...i left that boxing shid back in the late '70's in a usmc e-club...to old and out of shape to let folks play "kick my azz" these days...and i haven't gone off on someone in years but when i do?...it's usually quick, permanent and catastrophic annnnnd....anything "but" a fair fight...more like a life or death rage..he11...that's why i do my utmost best and go far far out of my way to be nice to folks..cause he11...sometimes i scare myself.

 

[shortBoarder]

we have no supervisors or leadmen...owner keeps the over-head and confusion down by not having them...figures why should he take his smatest most skilled guys and stick a cup of coffee in their hand and tun'em into glorified babysitters...i thought it a great concept...but also figured i'd be working around adults who knew how to act and behave as such.

That's why you need managers. They can be a PITA, but they do create some form of hierarchy + control which comes in real handy for situations like this.

You shouldn't be standing around wondering "WTF?" - there should be someone (not you or the other guy) mediating and dealing with the situation.

Your boss is gonna have a lot of headaches and prob. lose $$ in the long run.

Best advice: take the high road. No violence or anything that could put your boss in hot water (legal + otherwise). This a--hat doesn't sign your checks, the boss does - and in the end he'll hold onto the guy who gets his work done for less hassle. Make sure your boss knows that you deliver for him, and from the sound of the guy giving you trouble, he'll eventually do himself in all by himself.

good luck

 

[321CYA]

Leave that shid alone and let management handle the a-hole because there is a time and place and that was not it.... Good luck

 

[rc51ny]

One of the things I've learn in life is that guys that know little, will try to prove they know lots. It's their way of covering for their total lack of knowledge. The sad part is they think everyone buys their routine, when in fact everyone sees right through it. You called him on it and he had to cover this manly pride. In the end he knows he F'd up and tries to apologize his way out of his mess. My advise--he knows you know he's an idiot. MATCH POINT--YOU WIN!!!!!

 

[VaBusa]

One of the things I've learn in life is that guys that know little, will try to prove they know lots.  It's their way of covering for their total lack of knowledge.  The sad part is they think everyone buys their routine, when in fact everyone sees right through it.  You called him on it and he had to cover this manly pride.  In the end he knows he F'd up and tries to apologize his way out of his mess.  My advise--he knows you know he's an idiot.  MATCH POINT--YOU WIN!!!!!

+1

Now, just let it all roll...it's not worth risking a reprimand or worse...not worth this frustration...times like this, you just need to turn your back and go on doing your job, forget about him...

 

[06BUSA]

Let him load his own work. Then see what happens.

 

[USMCBUSA]

Let him load his own work. Then see what happens.

+1 let him do his own job and fall on his face!

 

[MoosesBusa]

Let him load his own work. Then see what happens.

there ya go ... check mate

 

[diesel]

Don't let him get under your skin. Be the professional, go in and do your job. F him. If he F's up that's his problem.


ymca-HA-HA!!! I might drive over there and kick his ass for a laugh.

 

[Ride_or_Fish]

The owner needs to know and will probably find out even if you don't tell him what went down. He has serious social issues and is work-unsafe. I'd say don't do anything to help or prep him for his shift - let the moron stumble in his own stupidity. I understand how this would upset you and keep you upset as it would I. I have a low tolerance for incompetence and strong attitudes, particularly when it affects my job and livelyhood.

 

[JINKSTER]

thanks folks...and you're all right...i need to just let it go....and hope and pray this jerkweed has at least learned that i'm ready willing and able to meet any further threats with extreme prejudice and hope he knows that there better not be "a next time"...cause if there ever is?..I'm all done listening to his shid talking...and the next time he runs his mouth?...I'm a goner...i won't even hesitate...and knowing that about myself is what has me so damn upset about the whole thing...so if he is stupid enough to talk shid again?...I guess I'll hafta do like I've always done in the past and... just hafta keep reminding myself that I have a wife and three daughters who don't need their daddy in jail...but boy did he pi$$ me off...with the audacity of sheer stupidity, ignorance and immaturity...and after years of putting up with it?...I absolutely loath that "Alpha Wolf" mentality horseshid that goes on with males in machine shops...as they all talk that neandrethal shid yet so few are ready and willing to stand behind that very tough guy talk that's like a waterfall of diareha spilling out of their own ignorant azz heads.

anyways...just got home from taking the family out to dinner and read ya'lls great advice....and I could very easily let this guy try an do his own work and fall on his own face but...that wouldn't be in the companys best interests hence....the wrong way to go about things...and if he's 1/2 as embarrassed at his own sad azz behavior as I am pi$$ed off?...maybe i willl see a new man ogf him come monday afternoon...we shall see...oh and...

diesel...thanks man...you're on y wavelength with the ymca thing...and this dudes a 40 something grown man...talking shid like a high school punk in a parking lot...and now that I think back it is good for a chuckle...as there I was fantasizing about ripping his fugg'in throat out and this clown was talking ymca and boxing gloves?

wtf!!

He is kinda big though....hence I bet he's not had many men come back at him like i did...and when I took it right back to him?...he didn't even know what to say or how to act...somewhere's between sad and comical...the ironic idiot.

there...now I feel better!

again...thanks folks and L8R, Bill.

 

[Busa Dreamin]

Sounds like your better now Jinks.
Just remember who and what you are and that your better then that A**hole, just shrug your shoulders and say wtf about that jerk.

There are plenty in the world and we don't need to let them upset our day.

Take care

 

[STUNNAH]

You handled your business and let him know where you stand...That should be it...If he gets in your space again let him know he was there after he wakes up...