During the other thread about Janet Jackson I had mentioned that within 100 years of a society accepting homosexuality as an accepted lifestyle the civilization usually collapsed.
Someone said that isn't true and not based in fact and if I could prove it they would give me their Busa.
Well I already have a Busa I don’t need two, thank you for offering though.
I state again I am not a homophobe, I don’t agree with homosexuality but I honestly feel everyone has the right to do as they wish, I am not the moral police of the world, all I can do is try to worry about myself and my family. I have relatives that live an "alternate lifestyle" and as long as someone doesn’t try hitting on me I really don’t care.
However the point I was trying to make is that throughout history, once a society starts down the road of moral decay, and homosexuality has ALWAYS been considered a sign of moral decay throughout time. And I was just using homosexuality as one example of many. The lack of integrity in our leaders, the lack of honest upstanding heros' in our society etc. the increasing selfishness and the pursuit of all pleasures.
So while I am not going to bust my but trying to dig up every bit of evidence just to prove my point. I will paste in the below excerpt for everyone's reading pleasure and I will include the link so you can read the entire document
Conclusions From The Roman Example
A key point of Rome's history, and of some of the empires preceding it, is that when the citizens of an empire become too comfortable, too corrupt, too caught up in the pursuit of pleasure and personal power, too reliant on others to do their work and to fight their wars, these are the danger signs. They warn of a moral slackness in society, the loss of values and a decline in resolve that in times past had ensured both the survival of society and its material success.
One could say that, viewed from a perspective of ethical norms and values, a new barbarism has to arise within the civilization, sapping it of earlier strength, before it becomes vulnerable to an outside threat, which, when it does come, induces panic and fear among the population, rather than a common and firm resolve among all citizens.
In the past, when these changes had set in - when it was seen as self-evident that the citizens of the empire, purely by virtue of their citizenship, had a right to privilege, that they were first among the nations not on the grounds of what they themselves were achieving, but of what previous generations had achieved, when long held norms and moral values were discarded as old fashioned and it became accepted that anything goes; in other words, when there are barbarians within the walls - it was time for the other barbarians outside the walls to come knocking. And there is no reason to think that this has changed.
The above is just a small excerpt, the entire editorial can be found here
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/mbutler121001.html
I think it is interesting reading and definitely something to at least ponder and not just ignore..
Anyone care to add their comments?
Someone said that isn't true and not based in fact and if I could prove it they would give me their Busa.
Well I already have a Busa I don’t need two, thank you for offering though.
I state again I am not a homophobe, I don’t agree with homosexuality but I honestly feel everyone has the right to do as they wish, I am not the moral police of the world, all I can do is try to worry about myself and my family. I have relatives that live an "alternate lifestyle" and as long as someone doesn’t try hitting on me I really don’t care.
However the point I was trying to make is that throughout history, once a society starts down the road of moral decay, and homosexuality has ALWAYS been considered a sign of moral decay throughout time. And I was just using homosexuality as one example of many. The lack of integrity in our leaders, the lack of honest upstanding heros' in our society etc. the increasing selfishness and the pursuit of all pleasures.
So while I am not going to bust my but trying to dig up every bit of evidence just to prove my point. I will paste in the below excerpt for everyone's reading pleasure and I will include the link so you can read the entire document
Conclusions From The Roman Example
A key point of Rome's history, and of some of the empires preceding it, is that when the citizens of an empire become too comfortable, too corrupt, too caught up in the pursuit of pleasure and personal power, too reliant on others to do their work and to fight their wars, these are the danger signs. They warn of a moral slackness in society, the loss of values and a decline in resolve that in times past had ensured both the survival of society and its material success.
One could say that, viewed from a perspective of ethical norms and values, a new barbarism has to arise within the civilization, sapping it of earlier strength, before it becomes vulnerable to an outside threat, which, when it does come, induces panic and fear among the population, rather than a common and firm resolve among all citizens.
In the past, when these changes had set in - when it was seen as self-evident that the citizens of the empire, purely by virtue of their citizenship, had a right to privilege, that they were first among the nations not on the grounds of what they themselves were achieving, but of what previous generations had achieved, when long held norms and moral values were discarded as old fashioned and it became accepted that anything goes; in other words, when there are barbarians within the walls - it was time for the other barbarians outside the walls to come knocking. And there is no reason to think that this has changed.
The above is just a small excerpt, the entire editorial can be found here
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/mbutler121001.html
I think it is interesting reading and definitely something to at least ponder and not just ignore..
Anyone care to add their comments?
If we start redefining what everything is, we're in trouble. If we don't stand for SOMETHING, we'll fall for ANYTHING. Good to hear folks NOT AFRAID to voice their opinions. 
