Opinions on Ferguson MO

I think only 2 people know exactly what happened 1 is gone.
The ones I feel sorry 4 and think should get help r people lost there business.
They did nothing 2 deserve that.
Anyone know what kind of gun was used? I think most police carry 38 9mm or glock
just seems like 1 or 2 shots 4 shure going stop anybody with those.

this is a "educated" and "experienced" knowledge of ballistics and average knock down of a 6'4" 230 lbs on THC man?....

ps glock is a manufacture of guns, not a caliber. most officers carry 9mm or 40 S & W. 38 went out with the revolvers in the 50's and 60's because of LACK of knock down power.
 
Wasn't he 300lbs? Im not saying cop was wrong just 1 shot by 9mm its pretty much game over isn't it?
I don't know guns that well im just asking. TO me a 40 caliber is a hand cannon.
 
I considered him armed when he reached in grabbing the officers weapon. Armed or not, regardless of your opinion on that, I'm a small man next to Mike Brown and wouldn't have a problem killing someone without weapons. It is so easy to kill someone else regardless of your size, or gender with personal weapons like hands and feet, etc.

Almost as easy as complying with simple instructions to get out of the middle of the road and use the sidewalk :whistle:
 
"Let one of these cops be a martyr"? Really? Cause I want the watch commander to read that at every shift meeting....

They have nothing to live for because that's what they've been LED TO BELIEVE. They are all afforded a FREE EDUCATION that gives them the OPPORTUNITY to lift themselves out of the shaithole they find themselves in. The Military is another route out. They are universities lined UP to give people less fortunate an opportunity to get out...NEVER in HISTORY have so many, government funded opportunities existed - YET, they STILL have to at least TRY...I don't buy that. The politics of victimhood as espoused by Jackson/Sharpton is what's keeping a lot of these people down..

What's not so smart is to pull a stunt like this in some other cities thinking they'll get the the same amout of forgiveness....cause like it or not, if the shooting actually STARTS, those rioters are on the LOSING SIDE....


Yes really. For every 1 that has rightfully been allowed to walk we see numerous accounts where they obviously have favored the cops and the obvious abuse of power. Keep letting them off and people will keep getting reckless. Its why good cops get tossed in with the bad and I am sorry to inform you but in the story of the ants vs the grass hoppers the ants win. People without nothing to lose are the most dangerous people there is. Ask any veteran about how they felt during the Vietnam war. It was a war we couldn't win because the people had nothing else to live for and had a mindset of "I'm taking you out with me." Even if 1 innocent life is lost in the crossfire that is a loss.


Also you say they have free education provided yet you don't understand the concept that not all education is created equal? The schools they have available to them rival schools available in third world countries. Teachers who are under-qualified or have simply given up due to a lack of funding or general care given. You are not from their area, who are you to say what they feel and how they feel is incorrect or wrong? I can answer that for you if you'd like.

I'm an engineer by trade, I'm black and I have an 'above adequate' income so to speak, live in Northern California and have been afforded many things in life. However, I've had my struggles, I've had my knock backs and I've at times had to work much harder than others to achieve the same goal but because of it I am that that much more deserving and proud of said accomplishments with no ill-will. I live in the most diverse state in our country, a free state that never truly experienced racism to the degree the Eastern half of our country and especially the South have endured. Because of that I don't feel qualified to project my own view on the blacks for those areas. They do not enjoy the same luxuries I have and are not accepted even to the degree I am and even so I have experienced prejudice so its a no brainer that they likely have it worse. So who am I to say "Suck it up, I made it so you should make it," because all paths are not the same. And in saying that people of another color voicing their own opinions on it are that much more ignorant to the fact that at the end of the day, you have no idea wtf you're talking about. Doesn't make you a bad person, doesn't make you racist, just ignorant.

You're not them, share absolutely zero percent of the backing behind why they feel the way they do and thus have zero grounds to say what you think, is or isn't "accurate'. If that's how they feel, its how they feel. If you were one of them on here typing to us giving the same speech I can then take you seriously because you would be speaking from experience not from the outside looking in.


Also you're outlook on civil unrest is also lacking any reasoning. You can't beat someone who isn't competing to win. In civil disputes people do so to make a stand for what they believe regardless of anyone else believing it. In some tyrannical countries these people can simply be squashed, here in america it would not be as easy. You can't just call in the military to handle the dirty work and think it wont escalate to a point of no return. In that instance we all lose.

Its not an "Us vs Them" its an US period. They, like it or not are part of america and they are Americans. You take the good with the bad, the lazy with the over opinionated, the thugs with the racist, the scholars with the idiots, the substance abusers with the religious. Is a bigger deal than it looks and its not getting any better is all I'm saying. Start using the military to subdue citizens and kill ONE just ONE innocent person and then villianize the military and see how well that goes.

I wont even touch the whole "military as a way out" thing, that's a whole new discussion to be had.
 
What I don't understand is why the Blacks of America do not belive the evidence that was given , Do they really think with Obama looking so closely at this that it would all be lies that were told? , Why does the store tape of Mike Brown get blown off and made to look like it has nothing to do with the case? They say he was a teen , Not true 18, They say he had his hands up , whitness's say not true, They say he was going to collage , Not true Air condition tech school is not collage, the only truth in this whole matter is that if he went to school got a tech cert he would still not get a job when he was done , Truth he would fail a drug test

"The Blacks of America.."

:hmmm:

Sorry to inform you that MOST "Blacks of America" don't view what they are doing as right and probably just as many people of other races, including white people are on the same bandwagon.

Bottom line is there are people who simply dislike the police. Due to social media a few bad apples have spoiled the barrel. This isn't just about Mike Brown, it seems to be a collective of many other instances that people are lashing out about. I don't agree with it, so I guess I'm not black any more lol
 
Tried google it couldn't find type of gun used did say was shot 6 times 2 were head shots.

Does it rally matter?

As has been pointed out - someone shot with even a large caliber bullet can still move for a long way.
Adrenalin can keep someone going enough to do a lot of harm to someone up to and including death.
 

I read through the table where each entry briefly describes what happened. While some cases seem to justify the use of a deadly force, others seem to suggest there was no good reason. However, one entry is a well known case.

Trayvon Martin... Shot and killed by George Zimmerman, self-appointed community watch coordinator who thought Martin looked suspicious.

This entry is clearly misrepresented, and therefore I am being skeptical about accuracy of other entries as well. It sounds like Martin looked suspicious and based on that Zimmerman shot him.

Another entry about a dad who left his two daughters in a SUV, then was shot and killed based on the assumption that he was a threat to the girls. It just makes no sense, and I am sure there is more to the story.

As to Trayvon Martin case, I watched the entire trial on TV, and have no doubt that Trayvon confronted Zimmerman in a very violent way. The entry should've said this:

Trayvon Martin... Shot and killed by George Zimmerman, a self-appointed community watch coordinator, in self-defense after following Martin thinking he looked suspicious, and after being confronted by Martin in a violent way.

It is easy to manipulate words, and many people believe what they read without a doubt. However, it all backfires in the long run.

Blowing up such cases is also a great distraction from real problems: poverty in black communities, fatherless children, and blacks killing blacks. In all the years, I haven't heard Sharpton speak once about these problems, and advocate personal responsibility, importance of a father in a family, and how to reduce crime.

It would be fare to present similar table for the same period of time with all cases when blacks are killed by blacks. I doubt there would be enough space on the screen or enough time to go over such table - sheer amount of killings would make it impractical. Because blacks don't hate blacks, such table would lead to only one conclusion - crime has nothing to do with race.

Sadly, the common theme between the cases of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown is hatred for white people, which is a subtle message being enforced by Sharpton and the likes. I think Trayvon's reaction to being followed by a (presumably) white guy was that of anger and hatred - seeded well before the incident, and over a long period of time. He probably thought he would just beat up this white idiot and be done with it. If he had the confidence to attack the guy, I am sure he had enough bravery to simply ask "Why are you following me?" in a non-confrontational way, and the whole thing could've been avoided. Pretty sad because compared to lost life all other things seem so small.

I live at the end of a very quiet street where all neighbors know each other, and every car is recognized. My neighbor, a single woman, called me one afternoon and said she was afraid of a car idling in front of her house for a while, with a man inside. I said, wait. I am not that paranoid, and thought there could be a 100 reasons for a car to be sitting and idling, and without any malicious intent. So, I got something hidden under my shirt, then approached the driver with a smile, and politely asked what was he doing sitting in an idling car for a long time. The guy explained that he was waiting for his ex-wife to leave the house located in the middle of the block about 10-15 houses up the street so that he could get the mail or something along these lines. It's easy to imagine that if I were obnoxious and threatening to the guy and he was carrying, this could've ended badly. Instead, we ended up chatting casually for a few minutes, and parted with polite "Have good day!".

Defensive driving teaches to compensate for possible mistakes/omissions of other drivers. In the same way, our own behavior in life should be 'defensive' by compensating for somebody's bad mood, wrongly spoken words, and even mistaken actions. The world would be a better place. Instead, we often do the opposite - which often leads to predictable results.
 
just 1 shot by 9mm its pretty much game over isn't it?
I don't know guns that well im just asking. TO me a 40 caliber is a hand cannon.
lol ummm no. not even close. one shot rarely stops anyone which is why police officers are authorized to use deadly force when a suspect is yielding a knife at (20) feet away cause its a known fact that (1) shot rarely stops anyone and he gets to u he's gonna gut u with that knife.
 
"The Blacks of America.."

:hmmm:

Sorry to inform you that MOST "Blacks of America" don't view what they are doing as right and probably just as many people of other races, including white people are on the same bandwagon.

I am happy you said that :) I was really starting to think that from the men of color reporting on CNN and all the lawyers that have been on the news . It's a real shame that so many people have pushed the conspiracy button and have forgotten the law . Maybe the prostesters should be asking for everyone to share a hug like the kid did in Washington state .
 
I live at the end of a very quiet street where all neighbors know each other, and every car is recognized. My neighbor, a single woman, called me one afternoon and said she was afraid of a car idling in front of her house for a while, with a man inside. I said, wait. I am not that paranoid, and thought there could be a 100 reasons for a car to be sitting and idling, and without any malicious intent. So, I got something hidden under my shirt, then approached the driver with a smile, and politely asked what was he doing sitting in an idling car for a long time. The guy explained that he was waiting for his ex-wife to leave the house located in the middle of the block about 10-15 houses up the street so that he could get the mail or something along these lines. It's easy to imagine that if I were obnoxious and threatening to the guy and he was carrying, this could've ended badly. Instead, we ended up chatting casually for a few minutes, and parted with polite "Have good day!".

Defensive driving teaches to compensate for possible mistakes/omissions of other drivers. In the same way, our own behavior in life should be 'defensive' by compensating for somebody's bad mood, wrongly spoken words, and even mistaken actions. The world would be a better place. Instead, we often do the opposite - which often leads to predictable results.

More like she was abducted by her estranged ex hubby and you were chatting with a murderer. :rofl:
 
Just a side point for those who don't know... A human body has a lot of soft tissues. Believe it or not, most people who are shot survive with minor injuries. When a person is on drugs or adrenalin is running high, such person may not feel/realize that he/she has just been shot, and therefore continue to act for many seconds like nothing happened. Police officers are aware of this phenomena, and if it comes to the use of a deadly force to stop someone they will continue firing until that someone is stopped. Also, some shots can miss. That's why most of the time we hear about multiple shots fired by a police officer.

I once was at a shooting range and saw UN security officers participating in some sort of training. I spent a few minutes observing. Once they got OK to fire, they all aimed at their targets and shot multiple times. I observed similar practice patterns among other types of officers.
 
Wasn't he 300lbs? Im not saying cop was wrong just 1 shot by 9mm its pretty much game over isn't it?
I don't know guns that well im just asking. TO me a 40 caliber is a hand cannon.

I saw that 300 figure (posted here I think) and later saw he was around 230 lbs.

9mm and .357 are about the same diameter but a .357 is way stronger.
10mm is about .40 Just so you know. But a .357 is still stronger.
 
Just a side point for those who don't know... A human body has a lot of soft tissues. Believe it or not, most people who are shot survive with minor injuries. When a person is on drugs or adrenalin is running high, such person may not feel/realize that he/she has just been shot, and therefore continue to act for many seconds like nothing happened. Police officers are aware of this phenomena, and if it comes to the use of a deadly force to stop someone they will continue firing until that someone is stopped. Also, some shots can miss. That's why most of the time we hear about multiple shots fired by a police officer.

I once was at a shooting range and saw UN security officers participating in some sort of training. I spent a few minutes observing. Once they got OK to fire, they all aimed at their targets and shot multiple times. I observed similar practice patterns among other types of officers.


Double Tappin.
 
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