Preemptive Pardons? Are the Dems getting nervous?

[Zerks]

“I won’t be looking anything up”. No truer words have ever been typed….

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You must be one of those guys that never heard of Julian Assange or Ed Snowden. Whitney Webb connects a lot of dots in her 2 books titled "One Nation Under Blackmail.". Or, you could go back at least 20 years and read "New World order Exposed" by Victor Thorn (RIP ) aka... Scott Mafu... Victor had a fatal accident... hmmm... I wonder why? or, you could read Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins... or, Creature from Jekell Island by G Edward Griffin. I have looked up plenty over the years....
Spend $5 on Amazon and pick up a copy of "Meet Your Strawman". You will understand why Wesley Snipes beat the IRS with a jury trial and a good lawyer. Pretty sure you won't do that because you already know everything their is to know.


Here is a picture of your hero...

 

[Zerks]

Who do you think counted? Election officials as they always do. The information is all over the internet and the numbers match. Remember that the vote count for Trump was the second highest vote total ever, but you don’t hear liberals, me in particular, denying it like you deny every fact that you don’t like. The fact is, Trump won by 1.5% of the popular vote, which is the closest winning margin in 50 years. Only George W Bush’s popular vote loss to Gore was closer, although Bush won the Electoral vote and thus the election.
Look it up.

Anytime a country uses "Dominion" brand voting machines any outcome can be achieved. Why do you think the founders of the company choose the name Dominion for the name of their company?

 

[Zerks]

See if this shows you anything.

https://www.amazon.com/Matrix-As-Different-Point-View/dp/145630996X/ref=pd_lutyp_crty_cxhsh_ao_strm_cts_d_sccl_2_6/145-9787034-1023434?pd_rd_r=16ceec2c-1b34-4a47-bf21-1c80a625a4d0&pd_rd_wg=Axlwa&pd_rd_w=dhiwB&pd_rd_i=145630996X&psc=1&asin=145630996X&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1

 

[Red05]

Anytime a country uses "Dominion" brand voting machines any outcome can be achieved. Why do you think the founders of the company choose the name Dominion for the name of their company?

The real world is a tough place, with losses at least offsetting victories. I understand why you choose not to participate but I don’t condone it.

 

[Zerks]

The real world is a tough place, with losses at least offsetting victories. I understand why you choose not to participate but I don’t condone it.

The world is only as tough as you make it. Go with the flow... express gratitude everyday for what you have in your life...Spend time thinking about how you want your life to appear and then take action when the urge to do something resonates inside of you.

 

[Red05]

The world is only as tough as you make it. Go with the flow... express gratitude everyday for what you have in your life...Spend time thinking about how you want your life to appear and then take action when the urge to do something resonates inside of you.

You totally missed my point. My outlook is great thanks. I was referring to the make believe world you argue for.

 

[Zerks]

You totally missed my point. My outlook is great thanks. I was referring to the make believe world you argue for.

We simply see the world differently. You believe things I don't believe. I believe things you don't believe. See how simple that is?

Example, you think slavery was abolished, right? Well then... what do the taxes you pay represent? Does it represent the human energy you expend with your time to earn money? This country prospered during certain times without the use of citizens paying taxes. Now look at us... many of us hover around 50% in taxes, fees and other charges that deprive us of our ability to live freely.

While we are at it... what are corporate taxes really do for us at the end of the day? Do corporations allow their profit line to drop if taxes are raised on them?

Corporate taxes simply pass through to the end user which is all of us except for those that benefit from tax laws that favor that group that has found ways to not pay taxes.

 

[Red05]

We simply see the world differently. You believe things I don't believe. I believe things you don't believe. See how simple that is?

Example, you think slavery was abolished, right? Well then... what do the taxes you pay represent? Does it represent the human energy you expend with your time to earn money? This country prospered during certain times without the use of citizens paying taxes. Now look at us... many of us hover around 50% in taxes, fees and other charges that deprive us of our ability to live freely.

While we are at it... what are corporate taxes really do for us at the end of the day? Do corporations allow their profit line to drop if taxes are raised on them?

Corporate taxes simply pass through to the end user which is all of us except for those that benefit from tax laws that favor that group that has found ways to not pay taxes.

Jeeze, and you talk about my outlook on life. Paying taxes, to me, is not at all like slavery. It's about doing my part. 50%? Do you earn around 4 million a year?

This country prospered during certain times without the use of citizens paying taxes

Only at the very beginning of our country there were no taxes, other than for whiskey and tobacco.

except for those that benefit from tax laws that favor that group that has found ways to not pay taxes.

Hopefully Trump behaves himself somewhat. Ha!!

 

[Zerks]

Jeeze, and you talk about my outlook on life. Paying taxes, to me, is not at all like slavery. It's about doing my part. 50%? Do you earn around 4 million a year?

Only at the very beginning of our country there were no taxes, other than for whiskey and tobacco.

Hopefully Trump behaves himself somewhat. Ha!!

So, when you see billions of tax dollars going to Ukraine... when you see billions going to support illegal immigrants being transported around this country and supporting them... well... forget that point... you approve of illegals crossing the border illegally and being supported with your tax dollars. Anyway...

You had to bring up Trump? The former president and now president elect that has and will continue to donate 100% of his salary to charitable organizations as specified by those that sit in some high position above him? You probably didn't know he can't give his salary to the charity of his choice... its a short list that he can donate too.

Let Judge Napolitano enlighten you on a few points here... unless you think you know more than the judge knows about this subject.

A little more food for thought...

The case with Wesley Snipes and the IRS... bad lawyering 101 in that case...

 

[Red05]

So, when you see billions of tax dollars going to Ukraine... when you see billions going to support illegal immigrants being transported around this country and supporting them... well... forget that point... you approve of illegals crossing the border illegally and being supported with your tax dollars.

If you ever paid attention to anyone else's stance, you'd know that I think the aid to Ukraine is excessive. By the same token, we shouldn't be praising Putin or calling him a genius.

You had to bring up Trump? The former president and now president elect that has and will continue to donate 100% of his salary to charitable organizations as specified by those that sit in some high position above him? You probably didn't know he can't give his salary to the charity of his choice... its a short list that he can donate too.

You brought up the problem of people not paying their part. Trump's personal finances don't add up to a hill of beans compared to the lost tax revenue his billionaire buddies probably won't be paying. We succeed in life and pay more taxes because of it, until one reaches the status at which money is no issue, then you get a break. Trump's system. It's broken.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

…”tax revenue his billionaire buddies probably won't be paying.”

Probably? HA!

 

[Zerks]

If you ever paid attention to anyone else's stance, you'd know that I think the aid to Ukraine is excessive. By the same token, we shouldn't be praising Putin or calling him a genius.

Right now it doesn't matter what either one of us think about Ukraine... simply watch how they ( the political hacks in DC ) convert the energy you produced that became dollars and then look how they misspent it in Ukraine All this BS about Putin wouldn't stop with Ukraine and would go on to take over Europe or some other nonsense is one of the propaganda lines. So what if he took Ukraine... how would that affect you? Those are NATO countries and Putin knows what that means.

You brought up the problem of people not paying their part. Trump's personal finances don't add up to a hill of beans compared to the lost tax revenue his billionaire buddies probably won't be paying. We succeed in life and pay more taxes because of it, until one reaches the status at which money is no issue, then you get a break. Trump's system. It's broken.

The whole world wide monetary system is broken... especially ours.... The only safety valve with the dollar is money printing. Blockchain tech has a good chance of leveling the playing field and minimizing the financial choas by decentralization of financial government power.. so... time will tell.

As far as the tax code goes... it is a rigged system paid for with the influencing of politicians and bureaucrats to tweak the tax code and make it a favorable tax code that fits the rich. So, who cares what Trump pays? Are Latisha James and Alvin Bragg heroes of yours?

As it is with many corporations... the workforce at the corporations pick up the tax bill.

Go to 12.44 and give her a listen... it's how crypto and Bitcoin is changing the world.

 

[Red05]

As far as the tax code goes... it is a rigged system paid for with the influencing of politicians and bureaucrats to tweak the tax code and make it a favorable tax code that fits the rich. So, who cares what Trump pays?

I care. I care that everyone pays their fair share. It’s the only way, as the Federal Budget is set according to processes going accordingly. It’s not magic; the President introduces guidelines, Congress sets the rates, the President signs it and the IRS (well, until now) enforces it.
It’s not magic or a secret cabal, it’s our elected officials. Maybe we should elect more carefully instead of blaming someone else.
Not caring means not caring about this country.

 

[Zerks]

I care. I care that everyone pays their fair share. It’s the only way, as the Federal Budget is set according to processes going accordingly. It’s not magic; the President introduces guidelines, Congress sets the rates, the President signs it and the IRS (well, until now) enforces it.
It’s not magic or a secret cabal, it’s our elected officials. Maybe we should elect more carefully instead of blaming someone else.
Not caring means not caring about this country.

Fantasy land... The Fed has grown much to big for our own good. As far as taxes go... we have more than 1 way to skin a cat. The current system has been failing the people of America in many ways for a very long time. It will take years to put the system back on track where efficiency will reach a level that actually matches in certain ways the potential that is possible.

All this legal rumbling in the crypto industry which is a sad attempt to impose draconian control over the people is the final battle for control of the people. A decentralized financial system will displace the control of the production of fiat currencies... and fiat currencies devalue the human energy that is required to drive the world's economies. In my opinion the governments of the world are devaluing the people of the world by printing fiat currencies.

That is why paying taxes is like feeding a beast that wants to devour you ... the value of your human energy that creates the life you have committed to creating is being stolen a little bit every time the powers that be hit the PRINT button.

Transparency with a blockchain system changes all of that... now anybody can see everything happening in real time when they log on. Every wallet has an address... a ledger keeps a historical record that is distributed throughout the worlds computer servers.

Bitcoin has grown to a trillion dollar market cap faster than any business in recent history... it shows us people want to preserve the value of the money they have worked for... not watch it erode away to a system that lacks control.

For now the dollar is still king... other fiat currencies printed by other governments are flocking to the dollar as fast as they can... and with those dollars they are buying a lot of crypto tokens. The people of the world want security of the assets they own,,, this is why precious metals and crypto are on a Bull Run. it is a popular way to stop the stealing of value of life that is finite.

 

[Red05]

That is why paying taxes is like feeding a beast that wants to devour you

There’s the problem, Chicken Little.
Hyper vigilance is nothing new. It adapts to societal changes. Take a spin in that Vette and forget about it for a while.

 

[Zerks]

There’s the problem, Chicken Little.
Hyper vigilance is nothing new. It adapts to societal changes. Take a spin in that Vette and forget about it for a while.

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I just changed the oil, flushed the clutch fluid, drained the rear diff... still have the trans and brake fluid to do. Received the door solenoid to install and struts for the rear hatch... still have items like tires to get sorted out... then we can go stomp on it a little bit.

Don't you just love photoshop cleverness and creativity?

 

[Red05]

Don't you just love photoshop cleverness and creativity?

I love cleverness, not so crazy about breaking up families and destroying lives.
Enjoy the car. I love my SL. I came really close to not buying it and missing out.

 

[Zerks]

I love cleverness, not so crazy about breaking up families and destroying lives.
Enjoy the car. I love my SL. I came really close to not buying it and missing out.

Families wouldn't get broken up if they simply respected the laws that govern the USA. When you do something considered illegal expect the outcome to not always match the intended purpose of the unlawful act.

We are all law breakers at one time or another... however... we aren't betting our whole life's energy and domicile location on whether or not we are going to be able to break the law and get away with it for the rest of our lives... or, are we?

Just tell these people to leave and come back and get in line and process legally.... is that too much to ask for the opportunity to live in a country that suits you better than the one where you lived before?

Is this some kind of unreasonable line of questioning?

 

[Red05]

Just tell these people to leave and come back and get in line and process legally.... is that too much to ask for the opportunity to live in a country that suits you better than the one where you lived before?

Do you have any idea how long that line is? Nobody else does either. Simple green card renewals are taking 3 years. The immigration system is in complete disarray. Maybe Trump and Associates will address it.