Proof of Election Fraud

[Bumblebee]

All I can say is the US is in real trouble........especially when you have governors doing this sort of thing without talking to one another.

I can imagine if the tables were turned how it would be......there are elitist, wealthy areas in each state, I can imagine if another governor dumped a bunch of newly landed people into one of these areas in Florida or Texas...that wouldn't go over very well.

More division between left and right groups is not the answer but it is the reality....it's already an "us and them" ideology.

 

[sixpack577]

That's because Us don't want Them forcing their BS upon Us any more.
Us don't belive in abortion.
Us aren't handing our guns over.
Us don't belive in drag shows in schools for elementary students.
Us can clearly see that Them can't run a country, anywhere except into the ground.
Them's administration sowed the division against Us.
Them put feelings over facts.
Us is not bending to Them's BS.
Us stand for the Constitution, and the flag! Them want to destroy both.
Us vs Them will continue.
Not sorry, and will not be sorry.

 

[DougE]

That's because Us don't want Them forcing their BS upon Us any more.
Us don't belive in abortion.

You want to be able to live free but want to force your beliefs on others. Never understood why men feel the need to be so outspoken about women's rights.

You want the right to bear arms? let women have the right to choose what they do with their body.

 

[Bumblebee]

That's because Us don't want Them forcing their BS upon Us any more.
Us don't belive in abortion.
Us aren't handing our guns over.
Us don't belive in drag shows in schools for elementary students.
Us can clearly see that Them can't run a country, anywhere except into the ground.
Them's administration sowed the division against Us.
Them put feelings over facts.
Us is not bending to Them's BS.
Us stand for the Constitution, and the flag! Them want to destroy both.
Us vs Them will continue.
Not sorry, and will not be sorry.

Still a country divided will fall...it's only a matter of time...

The only thing holding that country together are the neutrals..

Hard to have an "us and them when there's nobody...

 

[TallTom]

You want to be able to live free but want to force your beliefs on others. Never understood why men feel the need to be so outspoken about women's rights.

You want the right to bear arms? let women have the right to choose what they do with their body.

Because some people feel strongly that someone has to speak up for the unborn human inside her. The murdering of a human is how they see it.

I'm not one of them.

However I am FIRMLY opposed to using my tax dollars for someone's else's birth control. Abortions are being sought unconditionally. "It's none of your business why I want my 3rd abortion."

Make them legal. But NOT federally funded, unless it's a by product of sexual assault, a threat to the health of the mother, or a baby that will be severely malformed.

Otherwise

If you just don't want that baby. Fine. Go pay for it yourself.

My body, my choice. Totally concur.

My wallet. My choice.

 

[sixpack577]

You want to be able to live free but want to force your beliefs on others. Never understood why men feel the need to be so outspoken about women's rights.

You want the right to bear arms? let women have the right to choose what they do with their body.

Deliver a baby at 7 months...have the doctor slice it's neck with a scalpal.
Heck, now it's cool in some places right up until delivery, some places even want to let the mother think about it after delivery.
That's choosing to murder.
Why? Organ harvesting.
You think they bury those babies?
What about adoption?
You are talking to someone who has 2 healthy nephews...both born before 7 months old.
The left is so good and sophisticated...yet they encourage the human race to kill itself.
As for taking my guns as an equal argument? Lmao!
The Constitution gives us the right to bear arms, and against a tyrannical government.
You think I'm handing over my legal guns so some criminal with a gun can come steal from, rape, and murder my family?
I'll hand them over, and all the ammo...one round at a time.
Us aren't laying down and handing our country over.

 

[Bumblebee]

Us aren't laying down and handing our country over.

The sad thing is even having an "us and them" is handing your country over.

Having extreme right or left in charge is not the answer....there has to be middle ground without being locked into either ideology.

If one side says "no guns" and the other side says "all guns" that's not healthy. There has to be a medium there somewhere....

A compromise could be-"all guns" with limitations so you don't have some jack-ass walking around a shopping center with an AR-15 slung over his shoulder doing his grocery shopping only because he can.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

You want to be able to live free but want to force your beliefs on others. Never understood why men feel the need to be so outspoken about women's rights.

You want the right to bear arms? let women have the right to choose what they do with their body.

Hi. That is a good thing for woman,s rights so they can kill kids. Why don't extend that right to the 44 tri mester.

 

[sixpack577]

The sad thing is even having an "us and them" is handing your country over.

Having extreme right or left in charge is not the answer....there has to be middle ground without being locked into either ideology.

If one side says "no guns" and the other side says "all guns" that's not healthy. There has to be a medium there somewhere....

A compromise could be-"all guns" with limitations so you don't have some jack-ass walking around a shopping center with an AR-15 slung over his shoulder doing his grocery shopping only because he can.

I don't disagree...but agreement between citizens is not what the government wants.
And Many of us, and many more than the media will admit, are not willing to hand our guns and rights to these idiots in office.
You know, no cash bail, committ a severe crime and get out immediately.
Cops quitting in record numbers; hmmmm, I wonder why?

 

[Bumblebee]

Hi. That is a good thing for woman,s rights so they can kill kids. Why don't extend that right to the 44 tri mester.

I agree with @DougE who are we as a large contingent of males on this forum to be judging women's rights? There are medical professionals and many people involved in the decision a woman takes when it comes to abortions...

Using abortions as birth control is not right, but in the cases mentioned by @TallTom does make sense...

I would think the American government has far more important things to be concerned about especially when there were already mechanisms in place to control how abortions were performed.

 

[TallTom]

Deliver a baby at 7 months...have the doctor slice it's neck with a scalpal.
Heck, now it's cool in some places right up until delivery, some places even want to let the mother think about it after delivery.
That's choosing to murder.
Why? Organ harvesting.
You think they bury those babies?
What about adoption?
You are talking to someone who has 2 healthy nephews...both born before 7 months old.
The left is so good and sophisticated...yet they encourage the human race to kill itself.
As for taking my guns as an equal argument? Lmao!
The Constitution gives us the right to bear arms, and against a tyrannical government.
You think I'm handing over my legal guns so some criminal with a gun can come steal from, rape, and murder my family?
I'll hand them over, and all the ammo...one round at a time.
Us aren't laying down and handing our country over.

And they leave out something important in that comparison.

There is not one word in the constitution that says you have the right to abortion.

 

[Bumblebee]

I don't disagree...but agreement between citizens is not what the government wants.
And Many of us, and many more than the media will admit, are not willing to hand our guns and rights to these idiots in office.
You know, no cash bail, committ a severe crime and get out immediately.
Cops quitting in record numbers; hmmmm, I wonder why?

I can see why cops are quitting in record numbers....they live under a microscope and are automatically guilty in all cases.

We have the same issue with criminals up here...when they should have been locked up, they are out committing crimes (the stabbings in Saskatchewan are the latest that come to mind).

 

[Bumblebee]

And they leave out something important in that comparison.

There is not word in the constitution that says you have the right to abortion.

Common humanity has to come into play in these cases....the country has to evolve with the times and not stay in the past.

You already made good points when it came to how these abortions should be considered.

 

[TallTom]

Common humanity has to come into play in these cases....the country has to evolve with the times and not stay in the past.

You already made good points when it came to how these abortions should be considered.

Bee. It might be harder for you to fathom the idea that people can't afford an abortion using a pay as you go healthcare. Just as hard to fathom that if they can rely on the govt to pay for abortions, who needs to spend $5 on birth control.

Then if the pay as you go providers have figured out how to lower the cost by selling parts of the fetus. You get that uproar. They are simply trying to make it affordable.

It's not at all hard to NOT become pregnant. I am a strong supporter of providing federally funded birth control measures. Far cheaper.

 

[Bumblebee]

Bee. It might be harder for you to fathom the idea that people can't afford an abortion using a pay as you go healthcare. Just as hard to fathom that if they can rely on the govt to pay for abortions, who needs to spend $5 on birth control.

Then if the pay as you go providers have figured out how to lower the cost by selling parts of the fetus. You get that uproar. They are simply trying to make it affordable.

It's not at all hard to NOT become pregnant. I am a strong supporter of providing federally funded birth control measures. Far cheaper.

In this day and age, there are so many options for birth control...and I believe many of these options are free...

They are here at least....we have many programs to assist in order to avoid abortions.

 

[TallTom]

In this day and age, there are so many options for birth control...and I believe many of these options are free...

They are here at least....we have many programs to assist in order to avoid abortions.

It's stunning the irresponsibility in this country. And the efforts the government takes in fostering irresponsible behavior.

And I'll edit to add. Show me one statement made by the SCOTUS decision that made abortion illegal. They simply said they are not providing it at federal levels. It's up to individual states.

What that means is, no the states don't get federal $$ to do it. Gee whattya know. Now the states don't want the cost burdens.

Imagine that.

 

[DougE]

And they leave out something important in that comparison.

There is not one word in the constitution that says you have the right to abortion.

There are a lot of rights that aren't in the constitution. My right to be in an interracial marriage isn't in the constitution either. Want to overturn Loving v. Virginia as well?

 

[TallTom]

There are a lot of rights that aren't in the constitution. My right to be in an interracial marriage isn't in the constitution either. Want to overturn Loving v. Virginia as well?

Did your marriage come at my tax burden?

You are free to marry who you like. You can marry a giraffe for all I care. Unless I'm paying for it.

 

[DougE]

In this day and age, there are so many options for birth control...and I believe many of these options are free...

They are here at least....we have many programs to assist in order to avoid abortions.

There are very few places that provide birth control for free. Those programs would be helpful and have actually proved to reduce abortions and unwanted pregnancy. I believe Colorado was the state that started offering free birth control and saw a decrease in abortion and teen pregnancy.

 

[TallTom]

There are very few places that provide birth control for free. Those programs would be helpful and have actually proved to reduce abortions and unwanted pregnancy. I believe Colorado was the state that started offering free birth control and saw a decrease in abortion and teen pregnancy.

Yep. I know using birth control greatly reduced my concern for an unwanted baby. Had sex countless times. Not one kid or abortion to deal with.

Gee. What a concept.