Raising the rear: How much difference

(nimzondn @ May 30 2006 said:
I got my dog bones from Schnitz racing this weekend.  They look good ... nothing nicer than billet aluminum and alloy components on a bike.

But I'm going to bite the bullet and get a cycle shop to install them (not Suzuki though).   I just don't have a safe way to lift my bike and take the weight off the suspension.  I could rig up something but I'm just worried I may do something and knock it off balance and fall ...
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  ... I'm slowly collecting my tools special for bikes but I don't have a full lift yet ... only a rear wheel stand.

They told me it would only be one hour of labor.  (still its around 75 bucks but its worth it to keep the risk of dropping my bike at a minimum)

I'll let you know how it goes.  Wed or Thurs I'll take it in for the install.
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If you have a rear wheel stand and a floor jack you can do it yourself and save the labor charge.

Just put the bike in 1st gear, roll the slack out of the bike so the front wheel wont move. Put the bike up on the rear stand. Now take off your belly wing. Place a board on the floor jack and slowly jack up the swing-arm.

Shouldn't give you any issues at all. In fact the cash you would spend on the labor for them to do it, you could get yourself a nice cheap craftsman floor jack that you can keep
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If you have any questions drop me a pm, or I can give you my cell and walk you through it on the phone - if that helps.
 
I used a screw jack from my nissan maxima's tire changing kit.

I put the bike on the rear stand.
zip tied the front brake.
then lifted the bike with the screw jack until the swingarm just barely lifted off the stand, like less than a 1mm. You just need most of the weight off the swingarm.
that way if the screw jack moved or bike moved, the bike would stay on the rear stand.

It was cake.
 
Thanks for the input.

You guys are making it sound so easy. I thought about using my van's scissor type jack. I didn't think about using the rear stand as a safety net. I was also worried about how to keep the front tire vertical in case I torqued on a bolt and accidentally tilted to bike ... loosing balance and falling ... oh my!! But using the rear stand is a good idea.

I'll look into this after I get off work. I'll let you know.

(I'm not sceered about riding ... I'm sceered about dropping my bike ... that's my biggest fear cause I slipped and lost my balance with my 636 right after i got it but was able to lay it on its side ... sorta gently - controlled drop ... soft enough that it shouldn't have broke anything but it did ... the foot brake mount ... so I am very very careful whenever I do anything that requires lifting tilting etc. with the busa)
 
Remember you don'y have to lift 100% of the rear off the rear stand.  You can leave 1-5%, just enough so you can get the bolts out and the holes can be aligned when you go to put the bolts back in.  Also, you can get a bolt out each side, lower the jack a turn(putting weight back on the rear stand), take out the other 2 bolts, swap dogbones, install 1 bolt each side, lift the rear again to align holes, install bolts, and lower the jack.

The exhaust might be in the way, remove as much of the exhaust as you can, but leave the headers on.

The bolts are in a bearing that will also slide out.  If you can't get the bolt all the way out of the bearing because the exhaust is in the way.  Push the bearing half way out the opposite side.  This should allow the bolt to clear the bearing sooner, then you can angle it a little to get it out all the way.  Works like a charm.



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ok...now i like that idea...but what about with passenger...especialy my wife is as big as me
 
OK !!

Done deal.  I got them on this Saturday.  I did it like CharlesBusa recommended by using the rearstand as a safety net.  I put my van's scissor lift jack under a bracket that supports the "Y" part of the exhaust pipes.  I tried it under the rear part of the oil pan but it was too far forward so I moved it back.  This bracket is bolted directly to a lug off the engine I think but since all the weight was vertically oriented it had no problems supporting the weight ... which probably wasn't much more than 30 or 40% of the bikes weight.

I did loosen the left side (chain side) exhaust pipe and rotated it out of the way to get the bolt out but when I was putting the bolt back in I noticed I could push the sleeve bearing into the housing some to let the bolt end clear and I could angle the bolt enough to get it back in with the exhaust in its normal position.  Then I pushed the bearing back in ... no problemo.

Everything else went slicker than snot.  MWhuhahahahaha  ... excuse my reference to slick snot ... me just happy.  

Observation:  I noticed the sleeve bearings are slightly longer than the housing which means after the dogbones are in and the bolting is tightened up, you can push the dogbones and bolts back and forth in the cast housing about 2 or 3mm's ... I centered it before I dropped the bike off the stand and it appears to be no problem.  Is this normal?

Now that I think about it, its probably best the dogbones were tightened up against the sleeve bearing instead of the housing. (if you catch my drift)

I rode it and it seems to handle fine but I didn't do any high speed turns.  But it does feel different ... like what I hoped for ... good mod ... lots of bang for the buck.

Thanks for pushing me to do this myself.

nimzondn
 
Another question about raising. ... which I've already done.

I never did the kick stand mod because I just haven't seen a need for it. But now that I've raised my rearend, it seems the "unmodified" kick stand has better stability ... and if I had done the kick stand mod I think the bike may lean a little too much ... So, for now I'm glad I didn't.

what ye say?
 
(nimzondn @ June 06 2006 said:
Another question about raising. ... which I've already done.

I never did the kick stand mod because I just haven't seen a need for it. But now that I've raised my rearend, it seems the "unmodified" kick stand has better stability ... and if I had done the kick stand mod I think the bike may lean a little too much ... So, for now I'm glad I didn't.

what ye say?
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Well I did the kickstand mod before I raised the rear so I was sorta stuck with the mod once I raised her up +1. I'm still glad I did the mod, and love the way the bike looks with the lean angel modified. Knock-on-wood, I have not had issues with tipping over at this point due to the mod.

If I had it to do over again, I would still have done the mod, and not thought twice about it.
 
glad you found it.  I was having problems removing the bolts.  I picked up the schnitz racing bones.  still working it.  gonna try some of the tips above.

Tip=use your car/truck lug wrench. Should have a 17mm socket to break the nuts...... It'll give you an easier way to go. Socket & ratchet won't cut it.
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Thanks for raising, the raising links link, I was looking for them!

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I have some dog bones on order, but I'm running a 200 tire on the rear. Actually I like the rear tire, Any advice?...Ncpanther01
 
The advantage of rasing the rear is quicker turn in...200/50 rear tires are tougher to turn.

If you like to run the twisties, you're better off with a 190
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(Charlesbusa @ Jan. 21 2006,19:23) I installed mine yesterday and did a test ride in the canyons today;

WOW!!


I like it!  I weigh 165lbs and have always had to muscle(countersteer) to make the bike lean.  With the 180/55 and the +1 dogbones, it feels a lot more like my GSXR1000 did and I don't have to muscle it down anymore.  I can ride more relaxed and its not nearly as much work.
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+1

Dropping to a 55 profile tire, and +1" made a much bigger difference than i tought it would
 
(NCpanther01 @ Dec. 11 2006,23:24) I have some dog bones on order, but I'm running a 200 tire on the rear.  Actually I like the rear tire,  Any advice?...Ncpanther01
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we did his dog bones this afternoon and dipped out for a quick spin. watcha think brah
 
(Cykill @ Dec. 14 2006,18:59)
(Charlesbusa @ Jan. 21 2006,19:23) I installed mine yesterday and did a test ride in the canyons today;

WOW!!


I like it!  I weigh 165lbs and have always had to muscle(countersteer) to make the bike lean.  With the 180/55 and the +1 dogbones, it feels a lot more like my GSXR1000 did and I don't have to muscle it down anymore.  I can ride more relaxed and its not nearly as much work.
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+1

Dropping to a 55 profile tire, and +1" made a much bigger difference than i tought it would
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No "dropping" about it...55 is a taller profile. 180/55 is taller than a 190/50
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Man, Rockadeous and I did the mod today! It took 20 minutes tops. The prep took most of the time! Then we took a ride! It felt real good and no wrist pain either!...NCpanther01
 
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