Religion

Well, it could be said that humans tend to have the capacity to formulate the idea of a divine being. There are those who understand that it is a basic human trait, a need if you will. There are those who need to exercise in prayer to a declared being. Then there are those who simply find it within themselves to meditate so as to achieve the same physiological benefits of prayer.
 
Salvation lies within. I feel that you must find your own way and path in this life. As far as the bible and god go, I believe that the bible as we know it is merely jewish mythology that has taken root. Islam is merely a branch off of the same myth's that the old testament is based on. To me the key to any bible discussion is to recognized the various gods represented in the bible.

If you look at the old testament you have the vengefull god who punished harshly yet forgave his favorites. If you look closely tho, you start to see a change in the hebrew god, after their exile in babylon. Its like a softer face was put on their spiritual beliefs. The ultimate representation of this was the advent of Jesus, a new voice and persona for god, where forgiveness and love were the order of the day.

Basically I believe that after the babylonian experience, the hebrews begin to change to the new philosiphies that were sweeping the world back than. By the time greek philosophy and beliefs were infecting even the most nomadic tribes. There concept's of philosophy, culture and debate, spread accross the than known world. Based on this and there time in captivity, I believe that the hebrew people began to rethink there veiw of god. You can tell the difference if you look at the old testament books that were written around the 3rd century BCE. I believe that the greek influence had begun than to change there way of looking at god and the end result was the new testament. So basically our modern religous beliefs can be traced back to the greeks...all 300
 
For one, Allah was a god he was a man he didn't say he was god or the son of God , he is a vessel in which the Muslum people speak to god through. When you pray to Allah your prayers are forwarded to GOD . I personally beleive we all pray to the same GOD no matter what you want to call him .
 
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pro's n con's to all of the religions..
 
Clarification.

I am in the military and I work allot with/against Muslims. We all get these cultural sensitivities classes and until recently everyone one I had been to was some white guy who read about Muslims and Islam but recently they have gotten better and we have been being taught by actual Muslims that live their life that way. Why I was asking is that maybe I could understand them better if I were to walk a mile in their shoes. I mean we do their customs and if I am working with them and they are fasting I do to. I have never taken beyond basics. I was just thinking of going all out and living like them for a while to get the small ins and outs of their religions to be more educated so I would know why they do certain things and why they don't do others.

I believe in god and just do not want to perish in hell for eternity by trying to do something that is essentially to give myself a leg up on them.

No it is not to nail some Muslim chick if that were the case I would have never asked the question and would have already been attending her mosque.
I commend you on seeking understanding. Most people aren't deep enough to realize that there may be more to something than meets the eye, much less have an interest in understanding it. I don't know a whole lot about Islam but I have perused through the Koran and I didn't see anything about bombing the hell out of non Muslims. I do know however that any religion can be used to motivate people (sheep) to do just about anything. Look at the Christian crusades, Jim Jones, etc. The extremists that you face day to day are just the next manifestation to me. But I do think you that if you gain a better understanding of them it will benefit you more spiritually in the end. In other words, If a man comes at me with a knife for no apparent reason and I have to kill him to survive, I will. But I would still be haunted by the question why the heck did he do that? So I feel ya.
 
There's something to be said for knowing your enemy...

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Clarification.

I am in the military and I work allot with/against Muslims. We all get these cultural sensitivities classes and until recently everyone one I had been to was some white guy who read about Muslims and Islam but recently they have gotten better and we have been being taught by actual Muslims that live their life that way. Why I was asking is that maybe I could understand them better if I were to walk a mile in their shoes. I mean we do their customs and if I am working with them and they are fasting I do to. I have never taken beyond basics. I was just thinking of going all out and living like them for a while to get the small ins and outs of their religions to be more educated so I would know why they do certain things and why they don't do others.

I believe in god and just do not want to perish in hell for eternity by trying to do something that is essentially to give myself a leg up on them.

No it is not to nail some Muslim chick if that were the case I would have never asked the question and would have already been attending her mosque.
I commend you on seeking understanding.  Most people aren't deep enough to realize that there may be more to something than meets the eye, much less have an interest in understanding it. I don't know a whole lot about Islam but I have perused through the Koran and I didn't see anything about bombing the hell out of non Muslims.  I do know however that any religion can be used to motivate people (sheep) to do just about anything.  Look at the Christian crusades, Jim Jones, etc.  The extremists that you face day to day are just the next manifestation to me.  But I do think you that if you gain a better understanding of them it will benefit you more spiritually in the end.   In other words, If a man comes at me with a knife for no apparent reason and I have to kill him to survive, I will.  But I would still be haunted by the question why the heck did he do that?  So I feel ya.
To answer your question: Because there is another force that works against each and every one of us each and every day. And dependent on how well you are connected to the vine, which is God, and how well you are cultivated...whereas Jesus is the cultivator...that force which is referred to as the enemy (Satan) puts us through the test just as he did Job. Our faith should be not only be deeply rooted in the belief that there is a Supreme being, but that there is also an opposing being. We too often look for miracles, blessings, peace, and forgivesness in which we feel greatly comes from God. But at the same time, we don't look to the opposing forces that corrupt us, kills our children, rapes and tortures, and gives in to the belief that God doesn't love us. Case in point: "Why is it easier to tell a lie than the truth?" Satan attacks those who have a strong belief and that is why God tells us in Ephesians 6:10-19 to prepare ourselves and surround ourselves with the armor of God so that we may stand firm when in presence of the enemy. Prayer is the cornerstone of all spiritual existence. Not only prayer, but persistent prayer. Prayer is the only thing that moves the hand of God. The devil is attacking our children...just watch the news. And if we continue to deny our God, then so shall we be denied. When it is all said and done, we are solely responsible for our own salvation. My belief is that I would rather die and live righteously and find that there is no heaven, than to die and live unrighteously, and find out that there is a heaven. I personally feel that we were created with a divine purpose. And all those theories out there to explain evolution and creationism is a load of crap.
 
Too many religions, some one has to be wrong or perhaps, they are all wrong! Mabye we are waisting out time with it and could better spend our short time doing something else more productive or enjoyable.

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Well, Islam's heaven sounds good though.
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 C'mon, your goal in life is to be good so you can die and go to heaven and have sex w/ 40 virgins?? Heck w/ the right money and crowd I could probably hook that up now.
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Of course I don't have that kind of money or crowd.
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Great, just great, eternity with forty chicks, and not one of them has learned to rock the pole....

cheers
ken
 
Well, Islam's heaven sounds good though.
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 C'mon, your goal in life is to be good so you can die and go to heaven and have sex w/ 40 virgins?? Heck w/ the right money and crowd I could probably hook that up now.
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Of course I don't have that kind of money or crowd.
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Great, just great, eternity with forty chicks, and not one of them has learned to rock the pole....

cheers
ken
It is a fun learning curve to teach.
 
OK here's what I think. Religions are like the martial arts, One instructor says use punches and kicks another says use knees and elbows. Which is correct? Depends where you are standing! It all leads to the same thing. A person might go start their own style because they see the effects of something different than someone else might. Just like people that read the bible. They take one Punch ( text) and see it in a different way, (EX) Is a punch a weapon or is a punch coming at my face a target?. Text- The wicked recieve eternal punishment ( some say see "you will burn forever" I see it as PunishMENT Ment means its ending ( Not eternal punishING) . My belief is to stay balanced , Keep in the middle of the road, Keep God ( MY GOD) the center , Watch out for Corrupt Governments ( Politicians and Governments have always been corrupt) Learn from history..
 
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