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WOW!

I will clear up some muddy water for anyone who wants to see the TRUTH.

There is ONE God!

There IS a hell and a heaven.

There is only ONE way to NOT go to hell. It does NOT matter if your goodness out weights your badness.

Jesus IS real and God IS real. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not. Without accepting the one way to get in heaven you WILL go to hell. You can kick and scream and argue till your face turns blue..the sky is still blue, dirt is still brown, rocks will still hurt and hell is still there.

I'm not gonna make a long post. I will chime in and clear anything up. I WILL NOT JUST STATE MY OPINIONS AS TRUTH. I WILL STATE WHAT I KNOW ONLY. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS I DO NOT KNOW AND WILL TELL I DO NOT KNOW WHEN I DO NOT KNOW...

I'M ALSO NOT GOING TO STATE MY RELIGION BECAUSE RELIGION IS IRRELAVANT. RELIGION DOES NOT GET YOU TO HEAVEN. THE RIGHT SPIRITUALITY DOES..



Chris
 
99 Busa That was the first serious thread I think I have ever seen you write.

If you cannot see a little humor in all of it you are pretty fanatical about your religion.

There is 1 God and 1 Jesus. Even Muslims believe that.
 
WOW!

  I will clear up some muddy water for anyone who wants to see the TRUTH.

There is ONE God!

There IS a hell and a heaven.

There is only ONE way to NOT go to hell. It does NOT matter if your goodness out weights your badness.

Jesus IS real and God IS real. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not. Without accepting the one way to get in heaven you WILL go to hell. You can kick and scream and argue till your face turns blue..the sky is still blue, dirt is still brown, rocks will still hurt and hell is still there.

I'm not gonna make a long post. I will chime in and clear anything up. I WILL NOT JUST STATE MY OPINIONS AS TRUTH. I WILL STATE WHAT I KNOW ONLY. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS I DO NOT KNOW AND WILL TELL I DO NOT KNOW WHEN I DO NOT KNOW...

I'M ALSO NOT GOING TO STATE MY RELIGION BECAUSE RELIGION IS IRRELAVANT. RELIGION DOES NOT GET YOU TO HEAVEN. THE RIGHT SPIRITUALITY DOES..



Chris


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WOW!

  I will clear up some muddy water for anyone who wants to see the TRUTH.

There is ONE God!

There IS a hell and a heaven.

There is only ONE way to NOT go to hell. It does NOT matter if your goodness out weights your badness.

Jesus IS real and God IS real. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not. Without accepting the one way to get in heaven you WILL go to hell. You can kick and scream and argue till your face turns blue..the sky is still blue, dirt is still brown, rocks will still hurt and hell is still there.

I'm not gonna make a long post. I will chime in and clear anything up. I WILL NOT JUST STATE MY OPINIONS AS TRUTH. I WILL STATE WHAT I KNOW ONLY. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS I DO NOT KNOW AND WILL TELL I DO NOT KNOW WHEN I DO NOT KNOW...

I'M ALSO NOT GOING TO STATE MY RELIGION BECAUSE RELIGION IS IRRELAVANT. RELIGION DOES NOT GET YOU TO HEAVEN. THE RIGHT SPIRITUALITY DOES..



Chris
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I am not a good Christian. Every time I end up at church some poor guys life is ending wedding/funeral.

If Allah and god are in [all extensive purposes] the same being as written in the Koran and I were to do traditional Muslim praying is that wrong. I am just using it as a catalyst for personnel gain.

Trying to get a better understanding it is something some old dead guy wrote "know thy enemy like you know thy self"

As far as I have read in the bible it is not wrong if I am praying to god. As long as I don't pray to another god or idol.
By the way it's "all intents and purposes"
 
Most people on this earth are followers, thus a leader is needed. When there isn't a man to do the job of leader, the "concept of God/Dios/Allah" fills the role. Communist countries have the worship of the great leader similar to North Korea's Kim Il Jong or USSR's Lenin or Stalin back in the day.
 
gods come and go.. it's just superstition left over from our primitive ancestors who didn't understand science and tried to explain natural occurences... or probably more likely..some chief who needed something dramatic as he tried to keep some slaves in line by using fear.. How's Athena doing... how about Ra.. Jesus and Allah just the flavor of the day... might as well pray to "jeff,the god of bicuits" for all that it matters.. If I hear one more relious nut say something "comforting" like "god works in mysterious ways" at the funeral of a close friend,I swear I'm gonna slap the **** out of them..... Oh and if it wasn't blatantly clear, I'm an Atheist..
 
gods come and go.. it's just superstition left over from our primitive ancestors who didn't understand science and tried to explain natural occurences...  or probably more likely..some chief who needed something dramatic as he tried to keep some slaves in line by using fear.. How's Athena doing...  how about Ra..  Jesus and Allah just the flavor of the day...  might as well pray to "jeff,the god of bicuits" for all that it matters..  If I hear one more relious nut say something "comforting" like "god works in mysterious ways" at the funeral of a close friend,I swear I'm gonna slap the **** out of them.....   Oh and if it wasn't blatantly clear, I'm an Atheist..
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The difference is buddah, allah, and all the stupid bronze cows and other idols are dead, buried in a grave,then the torch is passed to another. My savior lives. Just because you may not beleive it does not mean its not true. Most all religions at least recongnize Jesus as a profit or other. Christianity does not recognize any other infact it is forbidden. The only way to Heaven is through the Son of God. Some beleive there is one God and many roads to get there. This cant be because they all have TOTALLY different beliefs, they all cant be right! Why would the creator of everything, the Almighty want you to worship statues or dead people? You can beleive that your not a bad person or as bad as another, but sin is not based on a scale. Sin is Sin, rather you rape, murder, or steal in Gods eyes you must Repent(turn away and know that Christ was sacrificed for your sin and have a true change inside and out, then you will be saved. I have been healed, my life has been changed and I will never be the same. I too, thought Im not as bad as some so I am fine surely I wont go to Hell, this is why Sin is not on a scale one is not worse than another in Gods eyes. He simply has rules and regulations if you abide you will receive the Blessings, Favor and abundant life promised. I know first hand. I have seen and experienced things that I would have never beleived unless I experienced them myself. The Devil is not stupid and if you think about it is genius for him make us think there are other ways into Heaven or deviding Churches through religion. Religion was created by man for thosethat accept some of the laws but want to tweak others. God is the same yesterday, today and forever He cant and wont change for any of us. Hell is real! Dont take it lightly. Eternity of suffering in agony and pain never ends. ASK FOR FORGIVENESS, REPENT AND ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR NOW! IF NOT, EVEN GOD HIMSELF CANT SAVE YOU ON THAT DAY OF JUDGEMENT. YOU HAVE A LIFETIME TO GET YOU NAME WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, THEN YOUR TIME IS UP. HOW SCARY WOULD IT BE TO FINALLY SEE THAT THERE IS A GOD AND JESUS WAS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND LIFE BUT DIDNT GET AROUND TO LEARNING THIS AND HAVE GOD SAY "DEPART FROM ME I NEVER KNEW YOU. I GUARANTEE YOU WOULD REPENT BEG, CRY, KICK AND SCREAM FOR ANOTHER CHANCE ONLY TO BE SENT TO HELL, A PLACED DESIGNED NOT FOR YOU, BUT FOR SATAN AND HIS ANGELS. WE ARE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO BE IN GODS KINGDOM RATHER THAN HELL. ITS UP TO US. GOD GAVE US FREE WILL TO MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS, WE CANT BLAME HIM FOR ANYTHING FOR ALL GOOD AND PERFECT THINGS ARE OF GOD.
 
To actually try and add something to the conversation, I would suggest reading C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity, or Surprised by Joy. He was an Atheist that became a Christian and his books reflect the thought process he went through to get there. Very interesting reading and he is a fantastic author.
 
To actually try and add something to the conversation, I would suggest reading C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity, or Surprised by Joy.  He was an Atheist that became a Christian and his books reflect the thought process he went through to get there.  Very interesting reading and he is a fantastic author.
Indeed. Lewis is a great author. Known for more than just the Chronicles.
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O.K. here is what my Preacher has always said and many others say the same:

"Christianity is not a religiong.....RELIGION IS HUMANS trying to work their way to God. CHRISTIANITY IS GOD coming to men and women through a relationship with Jesus Christ."

As a Christian your belief in God is what seperates from others. I'm not here to frown on others for what they believe, but I do know what I believe. And that is that one day He will come and bring all those who have asked for forgivness to be with him in the Kingdom of Heaven. And that my friends will be a glorious day for sure!

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gods come and go.. it's just superstition left over from our primitive ancestors who didn't understand science and tried to explain natural occurences... or probably more likely..some chief who needed something dramatic as he tried to keep some slaves in line by using fear.. How's Athena doing... how about Ra.. Jesus and Allah just the flavor of the day... might as well pray to "jeff,the god of bicuits" for all that it matters.. If I hear one more relious nut say something "comforting" like "god works in mysterious ways" at the funeral of a close friend,I swear I'm gonna slap the **** out of them..... Oh and if it wasn't blatantly clear, I'm an Atheist..
yeah that "God works in mysterious ways" is a lame reasoning for someone suffering loss. I much more prefer the Atheist response to grieving people...

"Hey, Aunt Silvia. Your husband's DEAD. It happens. Bummer. His body will be eaten by maggots and recycled. HE is gone for good. Time to move on."
..... "Hey are you gonna eat that dinner roll there?"

THAT's much more realistic comforting. I mean... you can't bring them back, why waste the time on it ya know? I'm TOTALLY with ya there.

Now the only thing that puzzles me about atheism is why they spend so much time worrying about OTHER's beliefs? I never spend a half second thiking about Atheist's beliefs, let alone attempting to degrade their beliefs with negative examples or calling them "Nuts" because they don't believe exactly like I do. Doing that would almost seem elitist. And I doubt most Atheists would have a need to feel that way.
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ALL the science in the world isn't going to explain away humans need for belief in something beyond them. Be it love, why toast tastes good, belief in a flying spaghetti monster or an omnipotent GOD.

For as much as we have "EVOLVED" mentally, we still can't loose belief in mysterious ways. Why is that, do you suppose? Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm. We've certainly replaced our Gods with better ones like money, TV, drugs, sports teams, super models etc etc etc and yet churches are filled and growing, new ones keep popping up... most non-religious types think it's all about the money... so... all these people are just dieing to give money away every week? That doesn't make sense to me.

Why are large numbers of people STILL reaching for whatever God, church, or religious has to offer?

And why hasn't SCIENCE fixed that need yet?
 
gods come and go.. it's just superstition left over from our primitive ancestors who didn't understand science and tried to explain natural occurences... or probably more likely..some chief who needed something dramatic as he tried to keep some slaves in line by using fear.. How's Athena doing... how about Ra.. Jesus and Allah just the flavor of the day... might as well pray to "jeff,the god of bicuits" for all that it matters.. If I hear one more relious nut say something "comforting" like "god works in mysterious ways" at the funeral of a close friend,I swear I'm gonna slap the **** out of them..... Oh and if it wasn't blatantly clear, I'm an Atheist..
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I just figure there must be a "Mysterious" reason this thread got dug up again. SOMEONE somewhere was needing to read it. We may never know who, but that is not the point.
 
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