Ripped off by Service Dept

Ran into some bad dealers when buying my Wife's BMW M3. Took a while to find a honest one. Usually with a car, you buy and never come back except for a maintainence now and again.

With my Busa, I go to my dealers bi-monthly rides. I get to ride with the owner, finance and service mgr. Sit around talking bikes and what not. Here about their kids and ow when I go in for service they know me by sight and first name.When things are not quite right it is easy to get them to fix it. Sh!t does happen and when it does I know I want some personal accountability from them to get it resolved.
 
that is the main reason i do all the work on my bikes myself... if it is something that is beyond my mechanical scope i have some freinds that will help me... i have learned plenty from them and am very gratefull. cause of all the horror stories of others getting burned by others working on their bike.

SORRY TO HEAR.. GOOD LUCK.
 
Here's the short version...

Scheduled 15k major service with dealer (same dealer I bought my 2003 from).  I brought it in on a Tuesday, the appointment was for the following day.  Never heard from them, so finally called around 15:00 Wednesday, they said it wouldn't be ready until the following day ... fine.  Thursday rolls around, still no word from them, when I called ~11:00, they said it's ready come pick it up ... cool.

Now up until this point, exceptions being the 600 mile service and tires, I've done all the service and mods to the bike.  I wanted to defer to them because the bike was due for valve adjustment, so I had them change the oil and put a new metzler m3 on the front along with the 15k service ... cost ~700 bucks, but whatever.  

Now here's the issue:
I picked up the bike, drove it home and decided to leave the plastic off until the morning (I removed the plastic before dropping it off for service).  The next morning (friday) i noticed an oil puddle under the bike about the size of my hand.  Sure enough it was leaking from the drain plug, which right away i was suspicious that they didn't replace the drain plug gasket, or worse that they stripped the drain plug/oil pan.  So I called them up to let them know, they reluctantly offered to pick it up, but not until the following Monday morning.  They pick my bike up Monday morning and the guy tells me they won't be able to look at it until the following day ... whatever just fix it.  I call them Tuesday (the following day) around noon, and they tell me that "they've fixed the problem, taken it out a few times to heat up the oil and it appears the leak is gone but we just wanna make sure so we'll call you in a bit".  Finally they call me about 4 hours later, it's the service manager, he starts out by saying that their "A Technician" suddenly remembered from last Wednesday, when it came in, that he saw threads on the drain bolt when draining the oil, "he tried to help me out by cleaning it up and thought it was fixed".

Well first of all, I do all the oil changes and I would know if i cross-threaded or stripped the bolt (I hand tighten and under torque the bolt, always).  Second of all, say i did do it (impossible, but for the sake of argument), why the hell would a "A tech" not notify the customer immediately after pulling the plug and seeing threads, if nothing else to cover his ass?.   So it became a my word against his.  I right away felt like this guy was just doing a cya.  He tries to sympathize with me by offering to pick up the labor charges, but I would have to cover the parts, which was around 150 bucks, he ensured me that I was getting a great deal.

Now I'm a pretty fair person, if they had called me up and told me that the mechanic had the Boss's kid hanging around and let him do some odd jobs, and little johnny overtightened the drain plug and stripped your oil pan, we'll get a new one, sorry about the inconvenience, blah blah blah.  I'd be pissed but at the end of the day **** happens and they're doing their best to fix the problem.  But instead I get some unethical bs ******** telling me that this was my fault and we're doing you a favor by paying for the labor.  I told him that I'm convinced that he's running a slackass service department and that I didn't want to take it there in the first place because of other incidents in the past.  (The last incident I had with them, was I took it there for a new rear tire, after the previously new rear tire had a nail in it after 50 miles.  When I went to pick up the bike, i noticed in the tire pile a brand new roasted metzler m3 tire with a nail hole in it, yeah thats right, they thought it was ok to burn off my old tire before installing the new one, evidence was all over the undertail.)  When i told him that story he just said "we don't do that here", so it's hard to reason with the delusional.  
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But anyways, due to some anger management tips and tricks that I've picked up along the way, I've decided that my only recourse is to write this rant.  In the meantime I've ordered all my parts from www.bikebandit.com which totaled ~130 bucks, and I'll enjoy knowing that it will be done properly.

P.S.  I know all service depts and their technicians aren't like this, in fact I'd be willing to bet that most of them are good hard working honest people at least when it comes to their job, so this hopefully is an isolated occurrence, i just happened to be the victim.

Thanks for listening...
WRONG!!!!!! The majority of them ARE that way....why do you think nobody wants to take their bikes in for any kind of service...especially FORCED recall work? They're low paid, rushed, inexperienced kids working on your bike who are gonna do whatever the hell they want....just like kids do. If they want to do burnouts with your new bike...or stick you for their screw-up, thats exactly whats going to happen. As long as you use service departments to take care of your bike you're going to have constant headaches and problems  
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 Do your own work or the shops will ruin the riding experience for you  
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I been God blessed with a good buddy who has done plenty of work on different sportbikes be it his own (track prepped bikes included) or his freinds. From simple aftermarket pipe installs to wreck rebuilds. He takes his time and his work is grade A. Charges a hell of alot less then any stealership i know of.

As for the dealerships "Ace mechanic" retort, that's always laughable. They're only an ace depending on not only how much they know about your bike or are willing to know by looking at the service manual, but how well they're paying attention. If it's lunch time then it's lunch time no matter what. If it's time to sit around and bs and tell stories with a old freind or customer they like that just strolled on in then that's coming first. Sometimes work on another customer's machine gets put off for a buddy of the shops. I've worked in a few and not all were bad but shifty stuff happened now and then and yea, we took care of ourselves and our own first. If someone had a problem, which rarely was legit and the fault of our shop, then we'd still try to take care of them and fairly too even if it meant eating parts and labor costs.

Otherwise it would be something retarded. Like kids threatening to sue us because the we didn't begin work on their crashed F4 when in truth the insurance company was holding things up. Or the one owner of a Fuel injected blackbird who thought we did something to his bike to make the FI light stay on all the time. He didn't think it had nothing to do with him gutting the packing of his Two Bros slip on mufflers and making the bike louder then hell and run like crud.

I don't like dealing with dealerships much really after seeing what does go on inside them. If ya got a good hookup with one with good people then you struck gold. Otherwise, it's hard telling. With a new bike i'd probably just do my own work and use stock parts till the warrenty was up. Otherwise do it yourself or search for someplace truly legit.
 
Had a new rear tire put on my Vmax (no longer own) and when I got home noticed a few scratches on one muffler. A quick inspection found blacktop residue on the handlebar and a few scratches on the mirror. Then it dawned on me THE FRIGGING MECHANIC HAD DROPPED THE BIKE. I immediately went back to the dealer and told the service manager what happened. He went in the back to talk to the mechanic and the mechanic told him he hadnt dropped it. I said bring the mechanic out here as I want to talk to him. He went in the rear again, came back and said the mechanic was too busy to talk to me. However, they volunteered to replace any parts. I said keep your parts and tell the mechanic he is a chickenshit!!! Went back there a few months later for a part and that same mechanic no longer worked there.
 
This is exactly why I'm gonna open my own shop as soon as I can raise the funds.  I'm tired of reading about these big shops screwing people over and the customer paying the price.  Customer service seems to be a thing of the past with most places.

My faith in bike shops is at an all time low. Even the big name performance shops are not what they seem.
 
Why I do all my own work on the Busa. It's easy to work on, easier than the Gixxer 1000 but even that's not a huge deal to work on.

Need to get to do my own tires and then I'll feel like can do 100% of the work on the bike.

--Wag--
 
This is why I let one of our fellow members 00Busa work on my bike because he knows what he's doing.
 
I've been a tech 0ver 25 years now and I could tell you this for sure. GOOD TECHS ARE HARD TO FIND. A shop with lets say 15 mechanics maybe have 2 that know what they're doing.
I refuse to let anyone work on my bikes or car. I give you an example. My shop has 21 mechanics.
I've had friends tell me how they got screwed by someone and if it was ok to bring their vehicle in my place for service. My answer to them . HELL NO! All of em are nothing but parts changers and they aren't even good at that. GOOD TECHS ARE HARD TO FIND.
 
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Im new to the whole bike scene. Glad I found this forum! always had a funny feeling about dealerships. Really sucks for me because I am so dumb when it comes to bikes. I Guess its time to start learning how to work on my own bike.
 
Why I do all my own work on the Busa. It's easy to work on, easier than the Gixxer 1000 but even that's not a huge deal to work on.

Need to get to do my own tires and then I'll feel like can do 100% of the work on the bike.

--Wag--
Right on Wag,
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Shell out a few bucks and buy a service manual,(or download the one from this website for your repair) buy a few tools, and do the work yourself.

It really is not all that hard, and if you have the service manual, you will know the same stuff that a QUALIFIED service technician does.

Just read the section about what you are going to do first, heck, read it twice if you need to, till you understand it, then just do it.

Not only will you develop a real "touch" for your bike, You will find that it will give you a real good feeling of pride in what you do, and you will also know that it is done RIGHT.
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They have a place called the BBB.... and yes it works. It may not fix your situation, but it will make the days rougher for them if you actually go through with a complaint
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Why I do all my own work on the Busa.  It's easy to work on, easier than the Gixxer 1000 but even that's not a huge deal to work on.  

Need to get to do my own tires and then I'll feel like can do 100% of the work on the bike.

--Wag--
A friend of mine took his freshly powdercoated rims down to a local big dealership to have new rubber put on. He told them the rims were spotless and please have one of the better guys mount the tires. We came back a bit later to pick the rims up......and you guessed it, it looked like a gorilla had tried to change the tires with a tire-iron and a lot of spit. The rear rim had one HUGE gouge along the edge...with several smaller ones. The front just had smaller ones around the whole damn thing. Plus they somehow scraped up the inner rims trying to mount clip on weights and must have slid them around, little scratches everywhere. Then the service manager had the nerve to tell my friend that was normal....new tires are stiff and s@#t happens
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So of course we both went off and made a big, loud, angry, gratifying scene in front of a bunch of customers. Cops are threatened to be called, customers start leaving ect. Then the store manager comes over and says they'll take care of his rims
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His rims never did get fixed right, plus they screwed up the install of the new wheel bearings and he had the rims off several times over that. In the end he decided to sell the bike and go another direction...mostly becuase of all the probs he had with the work done on it. He was trying to make a showbike and instead got out of bikes altogether because of all the problems he had with work done on it
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If you can't do your own work don't own a bike
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Shell out a few bucks and buy a service manual,(or download the one from this website for your repair) buy a few tools, and do the work yourself.
Get a lift from HF for $299. Well worth it.

Get good tools. Not the cheap crappy tools they have at Pep Boys but good tools. You don't have to get Snap-On or Craftsman tools, necessarily but stay away from the junk.

My next thing needs to be an air compressor. I think. I'm doing okay for the moment!

Come to think of it, with all the money I've saved by working on my own bikes, I might actually be able to afford to buy another one!

--Wag--
 
You should find out who the Suzuki Rep is in your area and tell him this story and file a complaint with the Better Business Brueau...


I had an incident with a local dealer a couple of years ago. Went to Bartlesville Cycle Sports and picked up my 04 1K and got a hell of a deal on it (1100.00 off MSRP). No one in OKC could touch this price. Well a few months after I buy it, a local dealer starts up a new Suzuki Dealership in the area. I did alot of business with him in the past (parts, oil changes and what not on my katana when I had it). So my bikes Warranty is getting close to being out and I had an issue with the bike's fuel pump, so I take it in for Warranty work and Oil change. I go out in the lobby and while waiting for my ride, I bump into a guy I knew. He was buying a new G1k (new model and body style and MSRP was higher then my 04 was). He asks if I had bought mine at that location, I tell him no, I went to Bartlesville because they were so much cheaper up there. That peeked his interest and starts asking me all kinds of questions. We talk for a couple more minutes and then my ride gets there and I leave. About the time I get home I get a call from a mechanic telling me that I need to come and get my bike. ALREADY FIXED? No, the owner is pissed off at you because you said something to a guy in the showroom and said if Bartlesville is so much better then take your bike up there to get it fixed. Told him I could not get up there before they close and he said that the owner would leave it outside (key in it) and I could get it when I could get up there. In the end, the mechanic said he would load it up and take it to his house and I could come by there and get it (I know this mechanic, so I felt fine with that). Anyhow, I have to go get my bike back from him and I was told that they do not want my money anymore (i'm being nice about what was said).

I contacted my Suzuki Rep and told him the story and basically got blown off.....

I'm sorry that I am looking out for me by taking a deal that to this day, no other dealers in Oklahoma can match. Just picked up my mom's Harley from Bartlesville and it was 1,400.00 off of MSRP...I'll be buying my Busa from them after the 1K is paid for, but it just amazes me that the local dealers will or can refuse to work on your bike just because you did not get it from them. Future note, I'll just tell the next local dealer I moved here from out of state so that they will work on it if needed.
 
Aaaaaand, every time you buy another bike, call them and let them know about it. Better yet, put it in writing along with a copy of this story.

Jeez.

--Wag--
 
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