Both shooters either were eager to shoot someone or were not man enough to back up their antagonizing of others.
Who says Zimmerman was "eager to shoot someone"? Who says he "antagonized" anyone? Douchebag.
masterblaster said:"Liberal" "Douchbag" your vocabulary is regressing to 17 years old now. Please don't quote me unless you have something intelligent to say, agree or disagree I don't care just be a little civil.
Why doesn't anybody discuss how it is the drunk guys fault and not the shooter? Why do we have to blame the victim and not the aggressor just because the dead guy chose to be a stupid drunk? Does getting drunk and doing stupid crap now pose as a good excuse to get out of the trouble that you cause?
lankeeyankee said:Name calling..... :rulez8bn:
LMAO!!!! Someone get me a beer
Lately this forum has been showing the true colors of members on this board. It is pretty sad.
nabusa said:Lately this forum has been showing the true colors of members on this board. It is pretty sad.
I also conceal carry....I had an instance a few years ago where I could have legally pulled my weapon and possibly used it, but you're taught you're weapon is your last line of defense, and I had the option left of not responding to the group of aggressors (threatening drunk harley dudes) and trying to get on my bike and ride away. They were pretty close and I was quite ready to draw if anyone made a move........but I got on my bike, started it, and left without needing to shoot anyone. I could have easily pulled my gun to show them who was boss and shot someone, but thats not why I carry. Plus that could have potentially changed my life forever I carry to protect my life and the lives of the ones with me. In 10 years of carry I've never had to once draw my gun...although if I wanted to teach someone a "lesson" I could have had a couple opportunities.Watched the video, the shooter should be convicted, he had plenty of opportunity to defuse the situation by simply leaving before further escalation. seems like he hung around to use his weapon, he came to them they did not come to him. These people are really making it tough for those with firearms, common sense and not looking to get their rocks off by body bagging some one. I have been carrying a firearm form many years and never have I put myself in a situation like this and I have had neighbors that had loud parties and guest even blocking my drive way.
I simple walked over found the home owner, and said "hey the music is a little loud and some of your guest are blocking my drive way, can you have the DJ make an announcement for them to move the cars, thanks". They moved the cars but the music did not go down, I called the Police and let them do the job I pay them to do, in my case it's 1 AM people are drunk why go over and trying to rationalize with drunk people makes no sense, its either going to lead to a fight or argument and with most people somebody will get shot.
Common sense really goes along way but I think some people just have this vigilante thing going now and they just want a reason to shoot and because of the interpretation of certain laws they are able to put themselves in situations were you already now what the end result will be. It's obvious he was making sure he was using words to help the self defense cause but its pretty much a premeditated murder masked as self defense, whether he had to or not he had every opportunity to leave, his presence and the brandishing of a firearm as they other guy clearly states he is doing further escalates this.