Silly Sergeant Major...

Russell, don't cross the Sergeant Major; look for an alternative location to park it. Most bases have a locked lot for trailers/boats and RV's. Yes it is a pain, but that's the deal.

I'd highly recommend you seek MC's guidance on this subject. You do NOT want to incur the Regimental Sergeant Major's wrath on this subject as I can PROMISE you he can make the rest of your tour hell on earth - and he will, if only to prove a point to the other enlisted soldiers that he CAN.

If you can't talk to MC, talk to your Gunny or the 1SG about what alternatives they might recommend. Tell them of your exhaustive research. Let THEM tell the CSM that the regs allow it and the implications it causes his soldiers.

The Sergeant Major is the senior enlisted advisor to the Regimental Commander. He operates with the authority of the Commander. From personal experience: I told everybody in my command that if my CSM's lips were moving, you might as well be hearing my voice, and enlisted matters were his sole purvue. Throwing a regulation at him is only going to cause you major pain.
 
Here's an update coming from my company. They said to just move the trailer for the night. Still no reason why. I may move it to the Burger King parking lot about a mile away for the night... I will still be keeping my trailer in the parking lot though.
 
:thumbsup::thumbsup: hit me up stranger online sometime:rulez:


RussellJ said:
Here's an update coming from my company. They said to just move the trailer for the night. Still no reason why. I may move it to the Burger King parking lot about a mile away for the night... I will still be keeping my trailer in the parking lot though.
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Wait, I got it... Have a certain someone fill it to the brim with ammo boxes, and I'll come get it! :rofl:
 
skydivr said:
Russell, don't cross the Sergeant Major; look for an alternative location to park it. Most bases have a locked lot for trailers/boats and RV's. Yes it is a pain, but that's the deal.

I'd highly recommend you seek MC's guidance on this subject. You do NOT want to incur the Regimental Sergeant Major's wrath on this subject as I can PROMISE you he can make the rest of your tour hell on earth - and he will, if only to prove a point to the other enlisted soldiers that he CAN.

If you can't talk to MC, talk to your Gunny or the 1SG about what alternatives they might recommend. Tell them of your exhaustive research. Let THEM tell the CSM that the regs allow it and the implications it causes his soldiers.

The Sergeant Major is the senior enlisted advisor to the Regimental Commander. He operates with the authority of the Commander. From personal experience: I told everybody in my command that if my CSM's lips were moving, you might as well be hearing my voice, and enlisted matters were his sole purvue. Throwing a regulation at him is only going to cause you major pain.
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This is pretty much what I was trying to tell him. I would approach the situation instead of letting the situation approach you. The military is notorious for making rules just because they feel like it. I have dealt with it for over 16 years so far and feel that ignoring the problem at this point will only make it worse. Don't be that guy that does not follow directions just because it is not written down some where that you have to.
 
I got the nuance of what you where saying Sous, but not sure Russell got it. He doesn't yet have the perspective that only time/experience can give. It's why I suggested MC's advice on the subject.

Maybe then he just wants it moved for the weekend or a day or so, maybe for an event, family day, parade or even just to work on the parking lot - and it's gotten blown out of proportion. You ever do that communication exercise where you put 20 people in a circle, and wisper something into the ear of the person next to you and pass it around - and when it comes back to you it wasn't even close to the original message? That happens in the military A LOT.

Tread carefully Marine.
 
^this^
Plus its too close to the bash to do something stupid and risk your leave, right?? :poke:
 
Sous said:
This could go well for you, or it could go very badly for you. In the Air Force we have a position called a 1st Sgt. He is a liaison of sorts between the enlisted force in a squadron to the Commander. His only job is to ensure the enlisted are being productive and do not have any problems to worry about this way they can take care of the troops. Do you have anything like that in the USMC? Now, I am not talking about a command level Sgt, I am talking squadron level.

Anyway, you could bring your concerns up to him/her and they can voice your thoughts on the trailer issue. If your E-9 is only conveying the wishes of your Commander though, you may be fighting an uphill battle. If I were you, I would go to them though instead of them waiting to come to you. If you wait, this may be seen as you blowing them off and only piss them off even more. If you go to them, it will show you are willing to fight for what you think is right and will show that you are not afraid to approach a situation that you feel is wrong.

Keep us posted.
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He's right, we all have a 1st shirt of sorts, every branch. So here's my 2 cents, go to your 1st shirt or superior in line (remember your chain of command here) and discuss it with him/her. If it doesn't get resolved to your liking there, go higher. Keep going up until you and your supervisor are getting yelled at by the commander. jk, if it gets to your commander and you have your papers in order saying there is nothing in the regs that says you have to move it, then you will most likely be told to move it or stay where it is. Either way you'll have a difinitive answer and not have to worry whether your doing the right thing. Remember, a full bird out weighs enlisted any day. Again, just my 2 cents man.
 
Go out and apply these numbers your bike and trailer:

NSN 2340-01-090-7749: MOTORCYCLE

And

Nsn 2330-01-046-2855: TRAILER,CARGO
 
to follow up with what i said earlier in this post, just go move it, givem what they want, its not worth taking a beating over, and if this SM is doing this then its likely he is looking to bust someone on just anything..
 
Blanca Busa said:
Go out and apply these numbers your bike and trailer:

NSN 2340-01-090-7749: MOTORCYCLE

And

Nsn 2330-01-046-2855: TRAILER,CARGO
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: You are awesome Saiid

i will after tomorrow if they give me crap about it... I think I am going to have that dude make me up a vinyl sticker...

I moved my trailer to Burger King. Still on base only about a mile away. Parking lot is HUGE and always empty so shouldn't be a problem just for 24 hours. The chick with the boat cant find her keys so she cant move her boat and idk what the other guy is doing. Just have to see how this all goes. I gave in a little and I moved it for the night.... Luckily I have my trailer set up so i cant push it out of the parking spot myself and get it on the hitch and move it. No help necessary and its done fast :beerchug:. 20 mins from start to pulling back into the barracks after dropping the trailer off.
 
I hate CSM's that have nothing better to do but make more stupid rules to follow. It seemed like NoSlack always bent them over right when they got there and (explicit deleted) then they took it out on all the joes.
Good luck man. I would take it up with your CO or 1SG for sure. If they are on board with you it will come down on them and not you. It's their job to fight the CSM's bad decision. Thats part of their rank's responsibility. If you ignore it then they will come down on you along with your platoon leadership.
 
Russell, from the sounds of things you can't win here. Might as well just give up and join the Navy. At least you won't have to worry about parking there..

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