Single front rotor?
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SLEEPERBUSA
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Rock,
Thanks for a real world testimony!
I too, have run 1 rotor on the street with NO problems, but then again, I don't allow myself to get into stupid situations where I may get run over. KNOCK ON WOOD! While anything can happen, I do my best to avoid trouble.
The only thing that I didn't like was that my lever got a little stiffer. But here's 1 for the nay sayers.
I can still skid my front tire with 1 rotor.
How much more STOPPED can you get? If the wheel is not turning, it doesn't care if it took 1, 2, or 3 rotors to stop it.
I'd be willing to bet that of everyone on this thread that says how stupid or dumb it is, that edubb1971 is the only 1 that has actually TRIED IT, and doesn't like it, and his experience was on a ZX-9, and not a Busa.
So the rest of these folks are talking about something that they have NO experience with, just guessing.
Sloto200 had the only negative answer that has had any merit. I've never thought about that kind of result. I would love to see those pictures Sloto, if you can round them up.
My remarks aren't to piss anyone off, but if you have real world experience why something does, or doesn't work, it seems that your opinion would carry better to help someone make a decission.
If you decide to remove 1 rotor, just keep everything that you remove, it's easy to put back on and doesn't cost 1 cent to do.
If you don't like it, put it back on and you haven't lost anything but some wasted time.
The long brake hose is routed to the right caliper. It has a long banjo bolt that recieves the oil to the right caliper, and delivers the oil thru a short jumper hose, to the left side caliper, and is bolted to the left side caliper with a short bolt. Remove the long bolt, reroute the long hose to the left side caliper and bolt it to the caliper with the short bolt that already goes into that caliper. Keep the rotor, caliper, jumper hose and long banjo bolt on the shelf. It'll be there if you don't like the single rotor.
The green bike went 193 mph in the mile, and the blue bike went 203 mph. Neither bike had a problem stopping.
The Texas Mile is also noted for a short shut down area.
192 at the Texas Mile
Thanks for a real world testimony!
I too, have run 1 rotor on the street with NO problems, but then again, I don't allow myself to get into stupid situations where I may get run over. KNOCK ON WOOD! While anything can happen, I do my best to avoid trouble.
The only thing that I didn't like was that my lever got a little stiffer. But here's 1 for the nay sayers.
I can still skid my front tire with 1 rotor.
How much more STOPPED can you get? If the wheel is not turning, it doesn't care if it took 1, 2, or 3 rotors to stop it.
I'd be willing to bet that of everyone on this thread that says how stupid or dumb it is, that edubb1971 is the only 1 that has actually TRIED IT, and doesn't like it, and his experience was on a ZX-9, and not a Busa.
So the rest of these folks are talking about something that they have NO experience with, just guessing.
Sloto200 had the only negative answer that has had any merit. I've never thought about that kind of result. I would love to see those pictures Sloto, if you can round them up.
My remarks aren't to piss anyone off, but if you have real world experience why something does, or doesn't work, it seems that your opinion would carry better to help someone make a decission.
If you decide to remove 1 rotor, just keep everything that you remove, it's easy to put back on and doesn't cost 1 cent to do.
If you don't like it, put it back on and you haven't lost anything but some wasted time.
The long brake hose is routed to the right caliper. It has a long banjo bolt that recieves the oil to the right caliper, and delivers the oil thru a short jumper hose, to the left side caliper, and is bolted to the left side caliper with a short bolt. Remove the long bolt, reroute the long hose to the left side caliper and bolt it to the caliper with the short bolt that already goes into that caliper. Keep the rotor, caliper, jumper hose and long banjo bolt on the shelf. It'll be there if you don't like the single rotor.
The green bike went 193 mph in the mile, and the blue bike went 203 mph. Neither bike had a problem stopping.
The Texas Mile is also noted for a short shut down area.
192 at the Texas Mile
cobravenom39
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I don't understand why anyone thinks it looks good with one rotor?? I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I like the look of two rotors, because any gearhead knows that something that has huge or multiple brakes is FAST!!!!. My girlfriends Ninja 250 has one rotor out front because it weights 250lbs and has 40 hp. I guess that's why I make the association. One rotor also looks asymetrical.
I guess I don't understand the whole chrome craze, either. I mean, I like a few accents here and there, but this is a badass bike. It should be dark, scary, and look like it eats little kids. It shouldn't look reflective and non-microwave safe!
I guess I don't understand the whole chrome craze, either. I mean, I like a few accents here and there, but this is a badass bike. It should be dark, scary, and look like it eats little kids. It shouldn't look reflective and non-microwave safe!
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Cobra,
you answered you own question.
WHY?
Because it's what THAT individual wants. That's why.
I did the chrome thing. I liked it then. I wouldn't be caught dead with chrome on my bikes now.
It's whatever a person wants.
Personally, the wheels on my green bike were extremely hard to clean. That was 1 reason. Another was less rotating weight. Another was I wanted to show off my bling.
I have seen some hidious Busas on this and other sites, and guys are telling the owner how great they look. I thought it looked like a dump truck needed to run over it and put it out of his missery, but ya know what? It was his bike, and HE liked it.
If I were down town Dallas or Houston, and I were 19 again, I would probably want 2 rotors. I have an 03 that has 2, but I'm NOT in down town traffic and I don't ride like i'm 19 anymore, so my green bike will keep 1 rotor.
It's just a choice.
you answered you own question.
WHY?
Because it's what THAT individual wants. That's why.
I did the chrome thing. I liked it then. I wouldn't be caught dead with chrome on my bikes now.
It's whatever a person wants.
Personally, the wheels on my green bike were extremely hard to clean. That was 1 reason. Another was less rotating weight. Another was I wanted to show off my bling.
I have seen some hidious Busas on this and other sites, and guys are telling the owner how great they look. I thought it looked like a dump truck needed to run over it and put it out of his missery, but ya know what? It was his bike, and HE liked it.
If I were down town Dallas or Houston, and I were 19 again, I would probably want 2 rotors. I have an 03 that has 2, but I'm NOT in down town traffic and I don't ride like i'm 19 anymore, so my green bike will keep 1 rotor.
It's just a choice.
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+1 Well said Sleeper. I personally want to try 1 rotor and the next time I pull off the front tire I will also pull 1 rotor and give it a try (all parts will be saved of course).Cobra,
you answered you own question.
WHY?
Because it's what THAT individual wants. That's why.
I did the chrome thing. I liked it then. I wouldn't be caught dead with chrome on my bikes now.
It's whatever a person wants.
Personally, the wheels on my green bike were extremely hard to clean. That was 1 reason. Another was less rotating weight. Another was I wanted to show off my bling.
I have seen some hidious Busas on this and other sites, and guys are telling the owner how great they look. I thought it looked like a dump truck needed to run over it and put it out of his missery, but ya know what? It was his bike, and HE liked it.
If I were down town Dallas or Houston, and I were 19 again, I would probably want 2 rotors. I have an 03 that has 2, but I'm NOT in down town traffic and I don't ride like i'm 19 anymore, so my green bike will keep 1 rotor.
It's just a choice.
cobravenom39
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I understand that people have their own choice, that's why this country is awesome. I just don't understand their rationale. I mean some people say it's less rotating mass (which is much heavier than something off the axle), but then why do you have heavy chrome plating all over the bike? If its for "bling" then someone can see your chrome bling better from one side of the bike?
I understand that people have the right to do it, it just doens't make much sense, even if it is a trailer or parking lot queen.
Not trying to piss people off, I just want to know if there was a better reason I didn't know about.
Single rotor for dragracing and show. (can you get stopped in a emergency situation with 1/2 of your braking power on the street??)BTW/no heavy chrome here/all polished
SLEEPERBUSA
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Ya'll probably didn't know that chroming out a complete Busa only adds just over a pound.
Chrome is NOT heavy.
Now what people SHOULD be concerned with is, during the chroming process, your stuff gets dipped in acid.
This removes some of the metal and weakens that structure.
I had a swingarm and frame at Airline Plating, in Houston, on Airline Blvd.
They had to dip my frame 5 times, and strip it each time, because the chrome wasn't sticking, in places. The swingarm looked so bad that I had them strip it for me so I could have it powder coated. While it was over at the coaters, the heat blew a hole in 1 of the upper braces. After I sat and thought about it long and hard, I decided that I couldn't use that frame.
I sold it, and yes, I explained the complete deal to the guy that bought it. He was fully aware, but he HAD to have a chrome frame.
Does loosing 1 front rotor slow the stoping process?
Probably so.
How much?
Not that much!
It seems to the rational person that if you have 2 rotors, and remove 1, that you've just lost 1/2 of your stoping power. It doesn't work that way.
You DO have to work the lever harder, but you can and will stop ALMOST as quick as with 2 rotors.
Believe me, if you have a stock Busa with 2 rotors and you JAM the front brake lever as hard as you can, it's gonna be a bad day in Busaville for YOU! You are either gonna wash the front tire out from under you, or the ass end is coming over the top.
These bikes are over engineered. If a person chooses to loose abit of the engineering, he's still got a hell of a bike.
Just MY 3 cents.
Chrome is NOT heavy.
Now what people SHOULD be concerned with is, during the chroming process, your stuff gets dipped in acid.
This removes some of the metal and weakens that structure.
I had a swingarm and frame at Airline Plating, in Houston, on Airline Blvd.
They had to dip my frame 5 times, and strip it each time, because the chrome wasn't sticking, in places. The swingarm looked so bad that I had them strip it for me so I could have it powder coated. While it was over at the coaters, the heat blew a hole in 1 of the upper braces. After I sat and thought about it long and hard, I decided that I couldn't use that frame.
I sold it, and yes, I explained the complete deal to the guy that bought it. He was fully aware, but he HAD to have a chrome frame.
Does loosing 1 front rotor slow the stoping process?
Probably so.
How much?
Not that much!
It seems to the rational person that if you have 2 rotors, and remove 1, that you've just lost 1/2 of your stoping power. It doesn't work that way.
You DO have to work the lever harder, but you can and will stop ALMOST as quick as with 2 rotors.
Believe me, if you have a stock Busa with 2 rotors and you JAM the front brake lever as hard as you can, it's gonna be a bad day in Busaville for YOU! You are either gonna wash the front tire out from under you, or the ass end is coming over the top.
These bikes are over engineered. If a person chooses to loose abit of the engineering, he's still got a hell of a bike.
Just MY 3 cents.
What you loose is the ability to modulate the braking forces as easily... You could likely lock the front tire with enough force on the lever with just one rotor..
trying to control the brakes at nearly double the effort is going to be problem and on the street in a panic situation, seems to me that the last thing you need in a bad situation is the loss of brake control.
Anyway if remove half your front brakes and things go really bad......
trying to control the brakes at nearly double the effort is going to be problem and on the street in a panic situation, seems to me that the last thing you need in a bad situation is the loss of brake control.
Anyway if remove half your front brakes and things go really bad......
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That's a good point that I have never thought of.
I can testify that you CAN lock the front wheel with 1 rotor.
I probably ride more cautious than alot of folks.
At 46 years old, I don't heal nearly as quick as I used too.
I also like spending money modding my bikes, not fixing them up after I crash them.
I do my damnedest to never GET into a situation.
I can testify that you CAN lock the front wheel with 1 rotor.
I probably ride more cautious than alot of folks.
At 46 years old, I don't heal nearly as quick as I used too.
I also like spending money modding my bikes, not fixing them up after I crash them.
I do my damnedest to never GET into a situation.
Good posts and arguments SLEEPERBUSA. Taking the rotating mass of the rotor out would definitely be noticeable to straight line guys like me, that's why guys spend big bucks on Marchesini or equivalent wheels. I've seen LOTS of guys around here run with one for years with no problems, and these bikes definitely aren't babied.
... also, even though I'm no fan of chrome myself, the added weight is negligible.
The post by SLOTO200 about failure from running one (must be the wheel or the caliper mount failing) is genuinely scary though. Would love to hear more about this.
For the record I still run both - mainly because I still ride like I'm 19.
... also, even though I'm no fan of chrome myself, the added weight is negligible.
The post by SLOTO200 about failure from running one (must be the wheel or the caliper mount failing) is genuinely scary though. Would love to hear more about this.
For the record I still run both - mainly because I still ride like I'm 19.
I like the look and if I didn't ride my bike every day I would take the rotor off . I just feel better knowing that I got all the braking power I need . A question to ask yourself is , have you ever had someone pull out in front of you ? I mean real close ! Then let me know how you feel. If all I did was use my bike for drags , speed runs , shows , ect ... then it wouldn't be a question . Weather or not , piece of mind is worth something .
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Almost every Drag bike I know has 1 brake rotor removed. Everyone has their opinion. But to call the bikes that only have 1 front brake rotor trailer queens and all that is non sense. Bet alot of these (trailer queens) as yall call them would hurt your feelings if you challenge them in a drag race... If you dont ride over your head and use your brains like evryone should you will have no problems.
SLEEPERBUSA
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just another opinion.
Keep both. You might need that braking. People do this for SHOW and LSR applications. Weight reduction. DAYUM if I would.
Louisiana sleeper
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You say stupid hurts.. I dont care if you ride with 15 brake calipers or no brakes at all.. If you ride crazy your asking for a bad situation..Some people say stock sucks.. Some people will not ride something if its not all chromed out and stands out in a crowd.. Its what you like. My bike is all chromed out but it will soon pack a serious punch. Not all trailer queens are just for show..I found that out the hard way. I drag race and yes I run 1 brake rotor on the front. You also have engine braking in case you forgot about that..
SLEEPERBUSA
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People discussing a subject that they have no clue about hurts!
Supergank1
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to each his own?
i`m sticking with 2 rotors
