Heartbreaker
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Tell him I'll give him $4500 for it. 
sold the 08 busa, problem with the buyer!
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RACER_X
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Did you keep the license plate? Forces him to go get it registered asap
Screw buyer, you sold him a nice bike, once it leaves your eye site,it's his prob
I think thats good enough. No worries.
I tried to be nice to a kid that bought my wifes RX8 because he called me 4 days later saying the engine was having problems blah blah and then he took it to the dealership and they told him the engine was blown....
it was only when his girlfriend called my wife and told her the kid took the car STREET RACING the night he bought it...that we realized the kid was the one who caused the problem. The girlfriend called my wife because the kid came over with the "intent" of buying the car for his girlfriend but took it out to be all fast and furious the same night and blew the engine....soooo because she was PO'd??? at him she called us and told us the scoop and told us "let him deal with it he's the one that screwed up my car"
Just a lesson bro...leave it be...
it was only when his girlfriend called my wife and told her the kid took the car STREET RACING the night he bought it...that we realized the kid was the one who caused the problem. The girlfriend called my wife because the kid came over with the "intent" of buying the car for his girlfriend but took it out to be all fast and furious the same night and blew the engine....soooo because she was PO'd??? at him she called us and told us the scoop and told us "let him deal with it he's the one that screwed up my car"
Just a lesson bro...leave it be...
thats a good point Racerv i had the same thing happen on my Ninja several years ago, had to replace both oil lines because of heat...but still if shawnski does help this kid out, chances are that if he has more problems he will keep coming back for repairs, or maybe not, tuff call i guess.
ddd269
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No harm in just looking at the bike. Have him bring it over and take a look at what he's talking about. Maybe it's a misunderstanding or maybe he crashed or abused it after he bought it... either way, you might sleep easier knowing that the problem wasn't there before.
If you examine the leak -if there is a leak- and if the oil stains are old, then you know that it was there from before. You might have missed it when you had it and could have started to leak more after he took it, who knows. If it was my bike, I would fix it for him if the leak is legitimate. Looking at the bike is the first step, I think.
We pay too much attention to what the "law" states. It's more about moral obligation. Obviously you sold him the bike without warranty, but you probably told him the bike had zero problems, too. We make purchasing decisions based primarily on what we observe, but also lean heavily on what the seller states, or advertises. That's how the buyer was led to the seller in the first place... Certain statements were made to describe the bike and to make it look attractive at the right the price.
I only wrote this because you seem to care about your reputation and have good moral character to question what's the right thing to do.
Good luck to you and God bless. A prayer wouldn't be a bad idea.
If you examine the leak -if there is a leak- and if the oil stains are old, then you know that it was there from before. You might have missed it when you had it and could have started to leak more after he took it, who knows. If it was my bike, I would fix it for him if the leak is legitimate. Looking at the bike is the first step, I think.
We pay too much attention to what the "law" states. It's more about moral obligation. Obviously you sold him the bike without warranty, but you probably told him the bike had zero problems, too. We make purchasing decisions based primarily on what we observe, but also lean heavily on what the seller states, or advertises. That's how the buyer was led to the seller in the first place... Certain statements were made to describe the bike and to make it look attractive at the right the price.
I only wrote this because you seem to care about your reputation and have good moral character to question what's the right thing to do.
Good luck to you and God bless. A prayer wouldn't be a bad idea.
Geez you guys are soft! Who cares if it had an oil leak when he sold it? If he and the buyer didn't know it, the buyer has to have it repaired. That is common everyday business. Do not ever get into "looking" at something. This sends the message to the buyer that you might do something for him. You need to send him to the dealer and if he wants to let you know what happened at the dealer, than that is fine. DO NOT lead this guy on. Blow him off. EVERY CAR, BIKE, or piece of machinery has the same issue when bought used. There is always a good chance it might need a repair. That is how its done. Anything else is amateur hour.......
V-Max 2 Busa
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I have to agree 100%. The trouble is that most folks when purchasing a USED vehicle seem to have a misunderstanding of what they are actually purchasing. They seem to think that they are purchasing some type of guarantee and not just a machine. They are buying a machine and only a machine, machines can develop issues at ANY time. A used vehicle buyer having a full understanding of this also assumes the responsibility to have the proper knowledge to inspect said vehicle to insure an intelligent purchase, but there is always a risk involved. If they do not wish to incur such a risk then they should simply purchase a NEW machine.
RMS2005
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nope, aint your responsibility no more. If you be a nice guy and help him out he's gonna be back in a few weeks tellin you that you sold him a bike with a bad second gear or what ever else goes wrong. When I purchased mine about 3 weeks later I had some problems with it, granted I was pissed but I fixed the problem on "MY" bike....
rockethead
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man that sux. good thing you didn't have big problems with that sale.
There is a good chance he may be looking at this thread or even a member. Telling him to F off is not the right thing to do. The sale is final however you have knowledge and resources that he may not have. I would try to be somewhat helpful however the sale is final and it shouldn't cost you anything.
You have no legal obligation - at all... As Blanca said and I quote "Baaaaaahhhhhhh".
The real question is - is there an actual oil leak. This may be a case of buyers remorse - spent the rent money or the rents said "no way you don't have a license or insurance not under my roof."
I understand you wanting to do the "right thing" and address this guys grevience - But if you in good faith sold this guy a bike in good working order you should not depend on the fact that he's dealing in good faith.
Hold your ground - do what is right for you and your family.
The real question is - is there an actual oil leak. This may be a case of buyers remorse - spent the rent money or the rents said "no way you don't have a license or insurance not under my roof."
I understand you wanting to do the "right thing" and address this guys grevience - But if you in good faith sold this guy a bike in good working order you should not depend on the fact that he's dealing in good faith.
Hold your ground - do what is right for you and your family.
Elvorin
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I understand you are facing a moral obligation. But you know in your heart you sold that bike without knowing of any such faults in the bike. So you from your side did not try to cheat on the deal. So I dont see a reason for you to feel any kind of guilt. Yes, it's always nice to help other human being, and one should. But real world is very cruel. What if you are ready to inspect the bike and find the fault for him, but then again later he falsely blames you for screwing up something else while inspecting this? Are you ready to deal with that?
If I were you, I would've said, we both inspected the bike before sell and agreed on the good condition of the bike. If any issue comes up later, I honestly wasn't aware of it and hence not responsible for it. Maximum I can do for him at this point, is to refer him to a mechanic who serviced my bike before, or something like that.
And if he still bothers you, then you can always say "Caveat Emptor"
If I were you, I would've said, we both inspected the bike before sell and agreed on the good condition of the bike. If any issue comes up later, I honestly wasn't aware of it and hence not responsible for it. Maximum I can do for him at this point, is to refer him to a mechanic who serviced my bike before, or something like that.
And if he still bothers you, then you can always say "Caveat Emptor"
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E-RACER
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I had a guy say that about a bike he bought,ended up he lubed the crap out of the chain and it was coming off the front sprocket area on his shoe!!
Another thing he could of popped the chain and damaged the seal in there ect..
$6400 is cheap!! why cant i find a deal like that!!
Another thing he could of popped the chain and damaged the seal in there ect..
$6400 is cheap!! why cant i find a deal like that!!
Too bad you didn't think to sell it to one of the members here, then you wouldn't have had to deal with this crap.
thanks guys for your feedback! reasons i sold the bike for great price were:
1. market is not very good for selling bikes, economy or so, 2. 16k miles can really effect your selling price and buyer demand for sport bike, 3. winter time bike demand is not very good!
if you ever meet me you will know i am a clean, organize freak from my car to my place i live down to my motorcycles!
every sunday i go riding i wipe my bike from top to bottom and while i do that i check everything out from chain to brakes to bolts and nuts, filter, leaks etc..etc.. i don't take the fairings out each time to check things out inside the engine but i make sure if there are sign of leaks then i go further. the bike ran like champ couple of days before sale and looked better than showroom floor, so why would i mess with things that are not broken
the guy has the bike 3 days in his position and the suddenly things went downhill.
oh well.. he can fix it and i if he does not trust it anymore he can sell it and maybe even make a little profit and BUY HIMSELF A NEW ONE!
1. market is not very good for selling bikes, economy or so, 2. 16k miles can really effect your selling price and buyer demand for sport bike, 3. winter time bike demand is not very good!
if you ever meet me you will know i am a clean, organize freak from my car to my place i live down to my motorcycles!
every sunday i go riding i wipe my bike from top to bottom and while i do that i check everything out from chain to brakes to bolts and nuts, filter, leaks etc..etc.. i don't take the fairings out each time to check things out inside the engine but i make sure if there are sign of leaks then i go further. the bike ran like champ couple of days before sale and looked better than showroom floor, so why would i mess with things that are not broken
the guy has the bike 3 days in his position and the suddenly things went downhill.
oh well.. he can fix it and i if he does not trust it anymore he can sell it and maybe even make a little profit and BUY HIMSELF A NEW ONE!
moloko
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If he were directed toward this board, owns a relatively basic tool set and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty, we could prolly help him with his problem.
Or at least figure out a diagnosis on what is going on if he posts some pictures.
I know it's frustrating as a buyer to have something go wrong with your new toy, but it happens.. It's happen to me more than once. He'll get over it.
If he puts 1k into getting that bike back on the road, he still got it for a great price.
Or at least figure out a diagnosis on what is going on if he posts some pictures.
I know it's frustrating as a buyer to have something go wrong with your new toy, but it happens.. It's happen to me more than once. He'll get over it.
If he puts 1k into getting that bike back on the road, he still got it for a great price.
Mythos
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I was thinking about suggesting that you direct the kid to this thread to show the overwhelming support of the seller in this deal. If the kid is a hood, probably better to say nothing to him.
If he is an org member.....he would be on this thread advising you to fix the bike and give him a refund
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