StreetShark's Hayabusa

[fallenarch]

We have discussed this here and all weight loss is not the same. It depends on how far the weight is from the CG of the bike as well as whether or not it's sprung or unsprung. If weight loss is your passion, the most impact generally comes from wheels. The lighter the wheel the better, or at least quicker the handling basically.

Unsprung weight means the weight on the bike supported by the ground, with sprung weight being the parts of the bike essentially riding on the suspension's springs. The biggest negative impact of unsprung weight is controlling the unsprung mass since it is not dampened by a suspension damper. Essentially when a wheel bounces, the heavier it is the harder it is to stop the unwanted motion. What that boils down to is the wheels skip over bumps rather than following them and traction and control are reduced.

So long story short, these few ounces are "valuable" ounces IMHO as opposed to something like CF mirrors. I rode my bike with and without the titanium axels and the difference is noticeable if slight. There is a smoothness to the feel. Now, this could be more due to the flex properties of Titanium, which I am told is better for this application than steel.

 

[JeffSyh]

So when you buying bst’s? I priced some out last night and god those red carbon ones are beautiful but for $5,000 American plus taxes and shipping and import fees I could build a engine for more power to weight then an entire carbon bike lol.

 

[Falkonworks]

Who has an opinion on oil cooler deletes? The Brock’s kit includes a hose to keep the flow moving, whereas the DME kit just blocks them off. Is there any benefit or drawback to using one style over another? Brock’s wouldn’t offer that kit if there wasn’t a reason... But I can’t believe DME wouldn’t do the same thing if it was necessary...

 

[Falkonworks]

So when you buying bst’s? I priced some out last night and god those red carbon ones are beautiful but for $5,000 American plus taxes and shipping and import fees I could build a engine for more power to weight then an entire carbon bike lol.

I honestly don’t know if I will. I’ve been eyeing some Dymags tbh.

 

[sixpack577]

Who has an opinion on oil cooler deletes? The Brock’s kit includes a hose to keep the flow moving, whereas the DME kit just blocks them off. Is there any benefit or drawback to using one style over another? Brock’s wouldn’t offer that kit if there wasn’t a reason... But I can’t believe DME wouldn’t do the same thing if it was necessary...

I think an oil cooler delete is for drag bikes, and that you're better off with it for street riding.

 

[Falkonworks]

I think an oil cooler delete is for drag bikes, and that you're better off with it for street riding.

My bike is almost exclusively used for racing at this point. Drag and Roll. I was more interested in opinions of one style vs the other, not whether or not the mod should be done.

 

[sixpack577]

My bike is almost exclusively used for racing at this point. Drag and Roll. I was more interested in opinions of one style vs the other, not whether or not the mod should be done.

I'de go with Brocks

 

[Falkonworks]

I'de go with Brocks

Is there a reason why?

 

[sixpack577]

Is there a reason why?

Brock's reputation speaks for itself.
I would agree too, and keep the oil circulating the way Suzuki designed it to.

 

[sixpack577]

The oil is only circulated out of the case to travel through the cooler anyway, obviously.
But if it was better to block both ends vs adding a line instead...I think Brock would be selling block-off plates...

 

[JeffSyh]

The oil is only circulated out of the case to travel through the cooler anyway, obviously.
But if it was better to block both ends vs adding a line instead...I think Brock would be selling block-off plates...

How many turbo bikes out there running block off plates? Even if I was N/A I’d throw the useless oil cooler in the trash plug the ports and pull my restrictor out behind my oil filter. The hose seems pointless? And a point to leak or get damaged. I also don’t look at brocks for the pinnacle of performance. Schnitz, DME, APE and MPS have way more time in the field then brocks does.

 

[sixpack577]

How many turbo bikes out there running block off plates? Even if I was N/A I’d throw the useless oil cooler in the trash plug the ports and pull my restrictor out behind my oil filter. The hose seems pointless? And a point to leak or get damaged. I also don’t look at brocks for the pinnacle of performance. Schnitz, DME, APE and MPS have way more time in the field then brocks does.

You'de throw the oil cooler in the trash on a street bike, or a drag bike?
A drag bike sure...but no way for street riding.
As far as the hose being useless, I'de like to see exactly how the oil flows through the case, that if leaving the hose retains better circulation.
Nobody ever said Brock was better or worse than the other guys...but I wouldn't bash the guy either.
I'de say the hose is very close to a high heat turbo, and possibly in the way of some also.

 

[Dai.]

I honestly don’t know if I will. I’ve been eyeing some Dymags tbh.

They don’t make Dymag carbon wheels anymore.

 

[JeffSyh]

You'de throw the oil cooler in the trash on a street bike, or a drag bike?
A drag bike sure...but no way for street riding.
As far as the hose being useless, I'de like to see exactly how the oil flows through the case, that if leaving the hose retains better circulation.
Nobody ever said Brock was better or worse than the other guys...but I wouldn't bash the guy either.
I'de say the hose is very close to a high heat turbo, and possibly in the way of some also.

I didn’t bash anyone, brocks makes some great products for street/strip but for pure racing there isn’t much I’d buy from them. I’m just saying the hose seems silly to me and I wouldn’t us it on the strip or street... and I would run without a cooler on the street all day everyday.

 

[Falkonworks]

They don’t make Dymag carbon wheels anymore.

Yeah I know. I want the Aluminum ones.

I don't necessarily need the end be all of super duper light wheels. I'm right with the carbon wheel guys and I'm on OEM wheels. I don't really like the fact that the carbon wheels have a shelf life just because of the material they are made from. Will that actually be a problem for me if I bought them? Probably not... But I just don't like it. If I buy aluminum wheels I don't have that same issue.

That being said, I REALLY think the GP Teks would look amazing on a Gen 2 Busa.

 

[Falkonworks]

I ended up getting the DME block offs. After talking with a few different guys, it seems that the issues people were having was on bikes that used the block offs but did not remove the restrictor plug. There is less parts to deal with so I think it will serve me better.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

I ended up getting the DME block offs. After talking with a few different guys, it seems that the issues people were having was on bikes that used the block offs but did not remove the restrictor plug. There is less parts to deal with so I think it will serve me better.

Hi. DME sells magnesium wheels. I just ordered the front and will be getting the back in 17/ 6 5/8 wide. The aluminum are heavy. I have owned many sets of magnesium wheels cars and bikes.

 

[ZeePopo]

We have discussed this here and all weight loss is not the same. It depends on how far the weight is from the CG of the bike as well as whether or not it's sprung or unsprung. If weight loss is your passion, the most impact generally comes from wheels. The lighter the wheel the better, or at least quicker the handling basically.

Unsprung weight means the weight on the bike supported by the ground, with sprung weight being the parts of the bike essentially riding on the suspension's springs. The biggest negative impact of unsprung weight is controlling the unsprung mass since it is not dampened by a suspension damper. Essentially when a wheel bounces, the heavier it is the harder it is to stop the unwanted motion. What that boils down to is the wheels skip over bumps rather than following them and traction and control are reduced.

So long story short, these few ounces are "valuable" ounces IMHO as opposed to something like CF mirrors. I rode my bike with and without the titanium axels and the difference is noticeable if slight. There is a smoothness to the feel. Now, this could be more due to the flex properties of Titanium, which I am told is better for this application than steel.

One thing people don't realize is that yes a heavier wheel tire combo is harder to stop, but it's also harder to begin to move. Try to move a heavy gyroscope in movement. It's a bitch. I myself prefer a heavy rim/tire combo with a soft tire carcass. The tire deforms from surface irregularities before the rim moves. Lighter rim/tire will just track over it. I like my tire digging the pavement out hahaha.

 

[ottafish]

Hi. DME sells magnesium wheels. I just ordered the front and will be getting the back in 17/ 6 5/8 wide. The aluminum are heavy. I have owned many sets of magnesium wheels cars and bikes.

The slightly heavier aluminium wheels I thought might be better for you for stability in straight line speed. No?
I have no idea, but I'd like a bit of weight to hold the front down?

 

[Falkonworks]

Just a little sneak peek of what's been going on over here...

I tried the burnt titanium look, and I tried gold. I just did not like it. I was going to go back to all black hardware, but the DME arm has these awesome looking machined blocks and nuts that I thought going to raw titanium is just ther way to go.

The arm is missing hardware because I have titanium on the way to replace the hardware store bolts that come with the arm. I don't know what exactly I expected quality-wise but it wasn't that....