The election is over

[Bumblebee]

yeah bee

the us aren´t any more the "land of the free"
where you can say whatever is correct and proved AND backed up with evidence
without being yelled at as a scammer / as a fraud / as a fake news spreader or so.

these times were gone the last 4 years - they turned into hateful

but i´m in best hope that the bad´n ugly yelling will stop after the jan 20

It won't, trust me.....it is a powder keg there with the subversive domestic terror groups floating to the surface unchallenged.

As we saw from the videos from the attack on the White House, these groups are comprised of people from all walks of life. The FBI will get those of whom the can but there are so many others hiding in the shadows. Other countries, especially "failed states" suffered from this sort of thing in the years before their governmental collapse.

Will it happen in the US?? Hard to actually say, if these groups are so brazen as to come out of the shadows and actually bear arms against their duly elected government, anything is possible.

Mix of extremists who stormed Capitol isn't retreating (msn.com)

 

[Berlin Germany]

bee?

absolutely ironically meant...

but msn.com u use as a quotation?
are you totally crazy?
good old billy is the owner and that bad bad man ...

that all are fake news as they / we learned last 4 years

irony off

seriously now
you can´t think that that kind of news would be accepted by those horse-blinder-wrapped / aggressive "followers"?

by the ever and ever again repeated yell as "fake news" a quite big number of people is now so insecure that they stick to what they previously believed in.
for me - comparable to the bisons running over the cliff not thinking what then will happen

it is so unbelievable sad but to get rid of this "mud" in their brains will take a very long time i fear.

hard to say but remember the nazis after ww2 how long they still believed in the wrong after war-ending - so strong their blinding was.

as i am informed - over 15 years long

unbelievable but real

and comparing the present situation in the us to that i fear that this "mud" will stay the same long time in their brains.
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and sorry but watch all the videos
they already bear arms against their government

 

[Dopey]

It won't, trust me.....it is a powder keg there with the subversive domestic terror groups floating to the surface unchallenged.

As we saw from the videos from the attack on the White House, these groups are comprised of people from all walks of life. The FBI will get those of whom the can but there are so many others hiding in the shadows. Other countries, especially "failed states" suffered from this sort of thing in the years before their governmental collapse.

Will it happen in the US?? Hard to actually say, if these groups are so brazen as to come out of the shadows and actually bear arms against their duly elected government, anything is possible.

Mix of extremists who stormed Capitol isn't retreating (msn.com)

I'm just curious if you seen some of the same videos I did? I've got a buddy who is a big time conspiracy nut and has mastered the art of screen recording live feeds (before they get found and shut down) all thru out the riots months ago as well as the stuff at the capital. When it was happening I was on the phone with him and he tells me the cops where opening the gates and letting people they the gate as well as the doors. I told him he was full of it but he managed to get me to sit down and watch a few and in several places at the capital that's exactly what happened. Now of course like I told him everyone of them was stupid for not thinking they were gonna suffer consequences for entering but I'm just curious if you've seen those videos as well?

 

[Dopey]

Things go wrong in elections. Dems all figured that trump was going to cheat and he did try by sabotaging the post office. But Dems were waiting for things like that and went to court to get them fixed or got the word out to hand-deliver our ballots.

But Trump never once claimed fraud in any of over 60 law suites. Trump's lawyers even said to the judge in court with the penalty of purgery that they had no evidence of fraud. They then went right out to the mic and yelled "fraud, Fraud". The President's own AG quit saying there was no evidence of systemic fraud.

It is also notable that this is not Democrats against Trumpers. This is a fight between Republicans and Trump. In the swing states, Republicans run the statehouses, election boards, AG, governors, etc. This is Republicans saying this was a fair election. On top of that, these are courts packed with Republican judges ruling against Trump and in most cases throwing their cases out without so much as a hearing.

The GA vote was counted 3 times both by hand count and machine count. Biden actually gained votes in this count. There were rumors of stacks of affidavits with people claiming fraud. those were only submitted to one court and the names were redacted by Trump's legal team!

You will not hear people like Zrxmax offer a single bit of proof that's been affirmed by anything more than internet tin-hat garbage. If it's real evidence of fraud that can sustain legal scrutiny and challenge, where is it? Anyway, the time for that has passed. The votes were counted and a time given for challenges to the integrity of the vote. Trump could not mount a single rational challenge in a court of law, so he turned to a propaganda campaign to convince his supporters that Trump really isn't the biggest loser ever to inhabit the Whitehouse.

OK so without "picking sides" regardless of who did what it seems to me that there was cheating going on which I can see as being "fraud" but yet there are so many posts in here that some are saying nope there was absolutely fraud, no evidence, nothing at all and that there is no way to cheat. But yet there obviously was some kind of something which opens the door to anything is possible.

 

[jellyrug]

The biggest conspiracy theories of 2020 (and why they won't die)

From QAnon to COVID, here's a look at the most widely promoted conspiracy theories of 2020.

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[Bumblebee]

I'm just curious if you seen some of the same videos I did? I've got a buddy who is a big time conspiracy nut and has mastered the art of screen recording live feeds (before they get found and shut down) all thru out the riots months ago as well as the stuff at the capital. When it was happening I was on the phone with him and he tells me the cops where opening the gates and letting people they the gate as well as the doors. I told him he was full of it but he managed to get me to sit down and watch a few and in several places at the capital that's exactly what happened. Now of course like I told him everyone of them was stupid for not thinking they were gonna suffer consequences for entering but I'm just curious if you've seen those videos as well?

I've seen those as well including the one where the cop was posing in a 'MAGA" hat. I also saw the ones where the cops were dragged out and beaten, tased and bear sprayed.

In the day and age where everything is recorded, nothing is escaped from the authorities. I'd say the FBI have all the detailed video they need.

I will say however the invaders were pretty well under self control as there were some dangerous characters amongst them-one being a retired Navy SEAL, if he had got loose and decided to do serious damage, very little could have stopped him. Also there were several large weapon stores on site which were not tapped into-if it turned into a firefight, the cops were very outmatched.

 

[Bumblebee]

OK so without "picking sides" regardless of who did what it seems to me that there was cheating going on which I can see as being "fraud" but yet there are so many posts in here that some are saying nope there was absolutely fraud, no evidence, nothing at all and that there is no way to cheat. But yet there obviously was some kind of something which opens the door to anything is possible.

There was a lot of "heat and light" on this particular election to avoid such things as it was well known Mr Trump was going to cry "foul" at the very get go of this election.

I can't for a second believe the entire electoral process was all geared to oust Trump-if this is a reality, it would put all the planning for D-Day to shame in order to include thousands of people and trying to keep those thousands quiet.

I can practically guarantee there was some sort of cash waving to people for them to come forward.....money talks but nobody is.

 

[Red05]

OK so without "picking sides" regardless of who did what it seems to me that there was cheating going on which I can see as being "fraud" but yet there are so many posts in here that some are saying nope there was absolutely fraud, no evidence, nothing at all and that there is no way to cheat.

I haven't seen those posts. EVERY election, especially on the size of a Presidential election, has some amount of fraud and people trying to cheat. The fact is, there was no excess or irregular amount of fraud found in this last election. Do people want to undo every election in the past century? The argument is ridiculous and increasingly tiresome.

 

[Zerks]

I haven't seen those posts. EVERY election, especially on the size of a Presidential election, has some amount of fraud and people trying to cheat. The fact is, there was no excess or irregular amount of fraud found in this last election. Do people want to undo every election in the past century? The argument is ridiculous and increasingly tiresome.

The video inside post 822 explains much of the fraud in detail. Not many can stomach the facts though... We know the Bidens and the Democrats are straight up with everything they do... right?

The Swamp is fighting for its life... the media and Big Tech have pulled every tool out of their bag to silence those that they want to suppress. It will now be a game of softball in the White House press briefings according to Jim Acosta and others.... they must protect the chosen ones.

 

[Bumblebee]

This thread needs to just die off I'm thinking....

 

[Red05]

The video inside post 822 explains much of the fraud in detail.

Here we disagree completely. What part of that video do you call detailed proof, or should I say proof in any form? I wasted 50 minutes; I'm techy enough to want to hear how they reach their conclusions but they never explain; just make statements about "what they saw", and with obvious bias.

We know the Bidens and the Democrats are straight up with everything they do... right?

I don't know that at all. I'm not privy to anything they're doing.

Your debate style is as ridiculous as ever. What the hell am I doing back in this thread? This is like an episode of Black Mirror.

 

[busabobh]

The hope is , if you say anything long enough, loud enough, and enough times, someone will start believing you. Muddy the water with lies, half truths and the weak minds will follow. I’ve been told how stupid I am , but I’m not dumb enough to follow lemmings over the edge

 

[fallenarch]

OK so without "picking sides" regardless of who did what it seems to me that there was cheating going on which I can see as being "fraud" but yet there are so many posts in here that some are saying nope there was absolutely fraud, no evidence, nothing at all and that there is no way to cheat. But yet there obviously was some kind of something which opens the door to anything is possible.

You're not stepping back and using your noodles. This is not democrats claiming they didn't cheat and Republicans saying they did. This is Trump saying that the Republicans who ran the elections in the swing states won't give Trump the outcome he wants. The process for voting and counting was followed. The votes were recounted according to the rules agreed to many months ago by both Republicans and democrats. Trump's lawyers did not put any credible evidence forward in 60+ law suites. It is completely irrelavant whether or not I, you, or Tin-Hat thinks there was fraud. Trump had the opportunity to present fraud and he couldn't do it. His own lawyers said to a judge they didn't have evidence of fraud. His own AG quit saying there was no fraud.

Barr Says No Election Fraud Has Been Found By Federal Authorities : NPR
Trump Cries Voter Fraud. In Court, His Lawyers Don’t. - WSJ

The simple fact that it is Republicans, not Democrats, doing the counting and saying Trump got his arse kicked alone is a pretty good indicator that the vote count was fair. The head of elections in GA even said he voted for Trump. So unless you are in a psycosis, it doesn't even make sense that the Democrats stole this.

 

[Bumblebee]

You're not stepping back and using your noodles. This is not democrats claiming they didn't cheat and Republicans saying they did. This is Trump saying that the Republicans who ran the elections in the swing states won't give Trump the outcome he wants. The process for voting and counting was followed. The votes were recounted according to the rules agreed to many months ago by both Republicans and democrats. Trump's lawyers did not put any credible evidence forward in 60+ law suites. It is completely irrelavant whether or not I, you, or Tin-Hat thinks there was fraud. Trump had the opportunity to present fraud and he couldn't do it. His own lawyers said to a judge they didn't have evidence of fraud. His own AG quit saying there was no fraud.

The simple fact that it is Republicans, not Democrats, doing the counting and saying Trump got his arse kicked alone is a pretty good indicator that the vote count was fair. The head of elections in GA even said he voted for Trump. So unless you are in a psycosis, it doesn't even make sense that the Democrats stole this.

Sadly there are hoards of people who think this and will follow along blindly, then there are people/groups who need some sort of cover to foster their own agenda.

 

[Zerks]

You're not stepping back and using your noodles. This is not democrats claiming they didn't cheat and Republicans saying they did. This is Trump saying that the Republicans who ran the elections in the swing states won't give Trump the outcome he wants. The process for voting and counting was followed. The votes were recounted according to the rules agreed to many months ago by both Republicans and democrats. Trump's lawyers did not put any credible evidence forward in 60+ law suites. It is completely irrelavant whether or not I, you, or Tin-Hat thinks there was fraud. Trump had the opportunity to present fraud and he couldn't do it. His own lawyers said to a judge they didn't have evidence of fraud. His own AG quit saying there was no fraud.

Barr Says No Election Fraud Has Been Found By Federal Authorities : NPR
Trump Cries Voter Fraud. In Court, His Lawyers Don’t. - WSJ

The simple fact that it is Republicans, not Democrats, doing the counting and saying Trump got his arse kicked alone is a pretty good indicator that the vote count was fair. The head of elections in GA even said he voted for Trump. So unless you are in a psycosis, it doesn't even make sense that the Democrats stole this.

Pure rubbish. The attacks on the president started from the day he announced he was running for office.

The Fake News Media has been at it forever with 90%+ negative news on the president since he started doing the things he said he would do while campaigning... a rarity for presidents in many years and several administrations.

The EO written in 2018 dealing with foreign countries interfering in our elections made it clear he expected fraud in this election cycle. Plenty has come out that points to fraud in Italy. The Dominion machines are as corruptible as any device you could ever use to cheat... When a state ( Georgia ) pays 104 million for voting machines do you ever ask why? Are those voting machines protected from being tampered with?

Barrs says their is nothing to see? Just like their is nothing to see with 33,000 emails, smashed cell phones and a server not under the federal governments watch being used illegally to conduct state business by Hillary. Can't see anything in Hunters laptop either... in fact... the only thing the Swamp can see is Orange Man Bad.

The problem isn't president Trump... its the corrupt nature of DC and how pissed off they get when they can't shake down everything and everybody they can get their hands on.

Peter Schweizer has been explaining the fraud that is rampant in DC for a number of years in books titled Clinton Cash, Bush Bucks, and the best one is

Extortion: How Politicians Extract Your Money, Buy Votes, and Line Their Own Pockets, 2013

This is what the Democrats and Rhinos are really pissed off about... President Trump exposed them starting with Hillary during the 2016 campaign. Anybody attempting to downsize the federal government is a saboteur of the Swamp... the more government control the Swamp has over your life the more they can shake down the corporate players.

Some of you might ask... how can this be? You only have to look at who is running the FBI and the DOJ to figure that out.

But... some of you wonder why you never hear much about it in the MSM... well, golly gee whiz Gomer... I just can't figure it out either except to say.... crime pays very well when you have protection.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

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[Mathewrussell52]

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Varityfair lol great source... This is where where you get educated? I’m shocked its more than CNN...

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Wherever it came from I don’t think it’s photoshopped.

 

[ottafish]

Peter Schweizer has been explaining the fraud that is rampant in DC for a number of years in books titled Clinton Cash, Bush Bucks, and the best one is

Extortion: How Politicians Extract Your Money, Buy Votes, and Line Their Own Pockets, 2013

This is what the Democrats and Rhinos are really pissed off about... President Trump exposed them starting with Hillary during the 2016 campaign. Anybody attempting to downsize the federal government is a saboteur of the Swamp... the more government control the Swamp has over your life the more they can shake down the corporate players.

Some of you might ask... how can this be? You only have to look at who is running the FBI and the DOJ to figure that out.

But... some of you wonder why you never hear much about it in the MSM... well, golly gee whiz Gomer... I just can't figure it out either except to say.... crime pays very well when you have protection.

Peter Schweizer ? Really? Bahahahahaha..

Schweizer is a right-wing "journalist" and think tanker. He spent years hovering around Steve Bannon, much like the flies that live in Bannon's personal stinkcloud. He was an editor at Breitbart* and with Bannon, he co-founded the Government Accountability Institute. Schweizer's been writing factually questionable books since the early-90s, including a Disney exposé that claimed the company was spreading a gay agenda.

In his recent books, Schweizer comes off relatively sane, by right-wing crackpot standards. That is not a coincidence. With Bannon's help, he devised a clever way to use the mainstream media against liberal politicians. Just gather a bunch of provocative but unrelated facts about a Democrat and pretend they point to a nefarious plot that's completely unsupported by those facts.
There is no evidence that Biden did anything illegal in Ukraine. So where did Trump get this crazy idea? From this guy: right-wing author Peter Schweizer.

Anyone trying to track the Ukrainian conspiracy stories that were eventually embraced by President Trump is likely to realize a pivotal source of the allegations against the Bidens, for instance, is the Government Accountability Institute, a Florida-based opposition-research operation that was founded by the former Trump political adviser Stephen Bannon—the same conservative nonprofit that ginned up questionable stories about the Clintons during the last Presidential campaign. In both instances, much of the coverage of the scandal was kicked off by Peter Schweizer

* Breitbart aligned with the alt-right under the management of former executive chairman Steve Bannon, who declared the website "the platform for the alt-right" in 2016.
In 2016, Breitbart became a virtual rallying spot for supporters of Donald Trump

 

[Berlin Germany]

folks?

i personally will definitely keep on staying a follower of einstein´s theory of human infinite stupidness
and expect the worst what could grow out of this.
(at the hill - bearing arms - what will happen next, at the enauguration e.g.)

damn