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I was watching a bit of the insurrection committee hearing today....

An interesting watch and anyone who still believes the people who attacked the capital deserves "our love" or "thanks" need to really wake the heck up.

Hopefully at the end of this hearing, the person and people responsible are punished to the full extent possible.
Interesting comment in hind sight. Thousands of hours of other videos not releasing prior to the Jan 6th Committee hearing is now being observed that were taken on Jan 6th. These are the videos that were suppressed by the Jan 6th Committee.

When people lie, obstruct and with hold video its clear what they are up too.

I just spent an hour with a guy that knows a lot more than I would ever know about Jan 6th. I just bought a car from him. He lives in Louisiana and works in an undercover capacity for the feds and gave me his opinion of what happened with Ashly and explained at length why he believes what he does. He has seen a similar situations like this before that didn't have the political implications that the Babbit shooting did. His opinion was the shooter wasn't trained to the level nessasary, and, this shooting was burned by the left.
 
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Interesting comment in hind sight. Thousands of hours of other videos not releasing prior to the Jan 6th Committee hearing is now being observed that were taken on Jan 6th. These are the videos that were suppressed by the Jan 6th Committee.

When people lie, obstruct and with hold video its clear what they are up too.

I just spent an hour with a guy that knows a lot more than I would ever know about Jan 6th. I just bought a car from him. He lives in Louisiana and works in an undercover capacity for the feds and gave me his opinion of what happened with Ashly and explained at length why he believes what he does. He has seen a similar situations like this before that didn't have the political implications that the Babbit shooting did. His opinion was the shooter wasn't trained to the level nessasary, and, this shooting was burned by the left.
Unless that person you talked to was there and gave the direction to the person who did the shooting, he is no better educated on what happened than we are...

From my experience, the person who did the shooting was protecting a valuable asset and procedure and was behind a barricaded zone of which this Babbit person breached.....

What would you have done in his place?

As for the video we have available to us as the general public, it is enough for most of us to know the direction and intent of the insurrectionists and the lack of direction from the then sitting president. They went to the capital with the intent of breaching and disrupting a legal process..

Just like I've said several times, this is akin to a civil court trial in which someone is found guilty yet there are people outside the court that disagree with this decision and then takes it upon themselves to break into the court to disrupt the proceedings......how would that go I wonder...????
 
Just like I've said several times, this is akin to a civil court trial in which someone is found guilty yet there are people outside the court that disagree with this decision and then takes it upon themselves to break into the court to disrupt the proceedings......how would that go I wonder...????
Problem is, you're using critical thinking and reason. Try whacko alternate reality world thought and you might get listened to.
 
Unless that person you talked to was there and gave the direction to the person who did the shooting, he is no better educated on what happened than we are...

From my experience, the person who did the shooting was protecting a valuable asset and procedure and was behind a barricaded zone of which this Babbit person breached.....

What would you have done in his place?

As for the video we have available to us as the general public, it is enough for most of us to know the direction and intent of the insurrectionists and the lack of direction from the then sitting president. They went to the capital with the intent of breaching and disrupting a legal process..

Just like I've said several times, this is akin to a civil court trial in which someone is found guilty yet there are people outside the court that disagree with this decision and then takes it upon themselves to break into the court to disrupt the proceedings......how would that go I wonder...????
First of all... it was a protest that got out of control by both sides. Plenty of video evidence shows Capitol Police removing barricades and unlocking doors and instructing protestors to follow them inside the capitol. This was a set up. In a real insurrection guns are brought by the insurrectionist and used to gain control. That didn't happen. The officer shooting Ashly offered no assistance for her injury as is the normal course of action by any officer shooting a person once the area is secured. That officer was then protected from any legal repercussions that continues to this day and no investigation was started that I know of.

So, what should the officer had done? How about warning Ashly that he will shoot? Did he warn her? Maybe... Officers warn suspects all the time in tense situations. Ashly was unarmed. Shooting unarmed people usually ends up as a legal predicament for the officer.

President Trump had already authorized in advance for more support at the Capitol for the Capitol Police that day. Pelosi didn't support that action even though it is one of her responsibilities as Speaker of the House. Add to that the head of the FBI ( Christofer Wray ) won't answer questions regarding the where abouts and activities of FBI agents that day. Its clear now... that day was the day to gain information that would incriminate president Trump as the excuse they needed to prosecute him for the actions of others... also known as "vicarious responsibility". The purpose was to gain a conviction that would eliminate to possibility president Trump being eligible to run for president again. Just like the Russia hoax and two failed impeachment proceedings, the false accusations by the Democrats fail to make a case or get a conviction. As you can clearly see the Democrat party doesn't have any candidates for 2024 that can legally win a presidential election.

We still have Jan 6th protestors sitting in jail in solitary confinement and no hearing date has been set in over 2 years. That non action is a direct violation of the laws of this country. Do you see anything wrong with that? Or, do those people only deserve to rot in jail until they can no longer function? The long term effects of solitary confinement are well known and it ends badly for anyone subjected to this kind of treatment.

Notice that Biden can leave US military personnel behind enemy lines in Afghanistan to be captured if caught by the Taliban and only a few people say a word about it. Is that equal justice under the law? We can leave approximately 85 billion dollars worth of military equipment in Afganistan for a deep and thorough inspection by anyone that pays the Taliban for permission to do it.

Biden... a real president wouldn't be doing what he does.
 
First of all... it was a protest that got out of control by both sides. Plenty of video evidence shows Capitol Police removing barricades and unlocking doors and instructing protestors to follow them inside the capitol. This was a set up. In a real insurrection guns are brought by the insurrectionist and used to gain control. That didn't happen. The officer shooting Ashly offered no assistance for her injury as is the normal course of action by any officer shooting a person once the area is secured. That officer was then protected from any legal repercussions that continues to this day and no investigation was started that I know of.

So, what should the officer had done? How about warning Ashly that he will shoot? Did he warn her? Maybe... Officers warn suspects all the time in tense situations. Ashly was unarmed. Shooting unarmed people usually ends up as a legal predicament for the officer.

President Trump had already authorized in advance for more support at the Capitol for the Capitol Police that day. Pelosi didn't support that action even though it is one of her responsibilities as Speaker of the House. Add to that the head of the FBI ( Christofer Wray ) won't answer questions regarding the where abouts and activities of FBI agents that day. Its clear now... that day was the day to gain information that would incriminate president Trump as the excuse they needed to prosecute him for the actions of others... also known as "vicarious responsibility". The purpose was to gain a conviction that would eliminate to possibility president Trump being eligible to run for president again. Just like the Russia hoax and two failed impeachment proceedings, the false accusations by the Democrats fail to make a case or get a conviction. As you can clearly see the Democrat party doesn't have any candidates for 2024 that can legally win a presidential election.

We still have Jan 6th protestors sitting in jail in solitary confinement and no hearing date has been set in over 2 years. That non action is a direct violation of the laws of this country. Do you see anything wrong with that? Or, do those people only deserve to rot in jail until they can no longer function? The long term effects of solitary confinement are well known and it ends badly for anyone subjected to this kind of treatment.

Notice that Biden can leave US military personnel behind enemy lines in Afghanistan to be captured if caught by the Taliban and only a few people say a word about it. Is that equal justice under the law? We can leave approximately 85 billion dollars worth of military equipment in Afganistan for a deep and thorough inspection by anyone that pays the Taliban for permission to do it.

Biden... a real president wouldn't be doing what he does.
You are running down the same rabbit hole.....again.......

We went from the insurrection (not protest) to Biden and Afghanistan....

These "protesters" forcibly entered the capital building and beat police officers in an attempt to disrupt a legal proceeding (whether you agree that it was legal is here nor there). There's more than enough video evidence to convict these people......and they are.....and good on them for doing so..........Refer back to my civil court analogy for reference as to how wrong this attack on the capital was...

This person was shot attempting to breach a secure zone.....with a police officer and a drawn weapon...anyone with even part of a clue would have not breached this zone......she was shot and fell into the unsecure zone where her fellow insurrectionists were, not much the police officer could do there.

On to Afghanistan (as you seem to like dwelling on this), what US service personnel were left behind?

On to the equipment left behind....

a) the US does this all the time....I have seen wastelands full of discarded US military equipment left in undisclosed countries and was told by the US personnel with us that it is cheaper to leave it then take it home..

b) the equipment left in Afghanistan was given to the ANA/ANP....it looked like American equipment but no longer belonged to the US government...it belonged to the Afghan government-a government which was inserted by the US...This government much to the surprise of the world, crumbled and fell leaving the Taliban to take control.....the ANA/ANP with no direction fled from their posts leaving all THEIR equipment behind......

c) by the time the final US troops were being extracted, there were less than 5000 boots on the ground.....if you've ever been to Afghanistan, 5000 troops (many of which were support troops) could do little to nothing to quell any sort of Taliban incursion....at the height of the conflict there were over 240,000 troops there and yet the Taliban prevailed...

This is a long, drawn out response....not one I like to make.....
 
You are running down the same rabbit hole.....again.......

We went from the insurrection (not protest) to Biden and Afghanistan....

These "protesters" forcibly entered the capital building and beat police officers in an attempt to disrupt a legal proceeding (whether you agree that it was legal is here nor there). There's more than enough video evidence to convict these people......and they are.....and good on them for doing so..........Refer back to my civil court analogy for reference as to how wrong this attack on the capital was...

This person was shot attempting to breach a secure zone.....with a police officer and a drawn weapon...anyone with even part of a clue would have not breached this zone......she was shot and fell into the unsecure zone where her fellow insurrectionists were, not much the police officer could do there.

On to Afghanistan (as you seem to like dwelling on this), what US service personnel were left behind?

On to the equipment left behind....

a) the US does this all the time....I have seen wastelands full of discarded US military equipment left in undisclosed countries and was told by the US personnel with us that it is cheaper to leave it then take it home..

b) the equipment left in Afghanistan was given to the ANA/ANP....it looked like American equipment but no longer belonged to the US government...it belonged to the Afghan government-a government which was inserted by the US...This government much to the surprise of the world, crumbled and fell leaving the Taliban to take control.....the ANA/ANP with no direction fled from their posts leaving all THEIR equipment behind......

c) by the time the final US troops were being extracted, there were less than 5000 boots on the ground.....if you've ever been to Afghanistan, 5000 troops (many of which were support troops) could do little to nothing to quell any sort of Taliban incursion....at the height of the conflict there were over 240,000 troops there and yet the Taliban prevailed...

This is a long, drawn out response....not one I like to make.....
We will simply wait and see what new video evidence shows us.
If FBI agents were in the crowd then we will likely see what they were doing that day.

As far as Afghanistan goes... it was a great success... many billions of profit were made by the MIC. Now we can dump many more billions into Ukraine and continue our proxy war with Russia... power corrupts again. Is Joe getting his 10%? Meanwhile, our southern border and east Palestine Ohio... its all going as planned. Pothole Pete is no where to be seen. Just like Kamala at the southern border.
 
We will simply wait and see what new video evidence shows us.
If FBI agents were in the crowd then we will likely see what they were doing that day.

As far as Afghanistan goes... it was a great success... many billions of profit were made by the MIC. Now we can dump many more billions into Ukraine and continue our proxy war with Russia... power corrupts again. Is Joe getting his 10%? Meanwhile, our southern border and east Palestine Ohio... its all going as planned. Pothole Pete is no where to be seen. Just like Kamala at the southern border.
The video evidence has shown quite a bit of damming evidence already....

You knock our mission to Afghanistan....unless you were there you know only what is told to you.....fighting the Taliban and in Afghanistan is no easy feat especially when countries like Pakistan harbored the Taliban thus preserving them to make a come back...officially we weren't allowed to go into Pakistan after them and they knew it. Kind of what the Viet Nam vets had to contend with when the VC and NVA were allowed into sanctuaries and the US troops were forbidden to go into these areas...

Russia invaded a sovereign country which asked for assistance.....what would you propose the rest of the world to do? Should we have stood back and watched them be slaughtered or maybe have a nuclear power station go up in a mushroom cloud?

NATO has to do what it needs to in order for Ukraine to be successful in repelling Russia....if not, many other countries will be at great risk of invasion.....

The petty in-fighting between your liberals and conservatives is getting old and tired.
 
The video evidence has shown quite a bit of damming evidence already....

You knock our mission to Afghanistan....unless you were there you know only what is told to you.....fighting the Taliban and in Afghanistan is no easy feat especially when countries like Pakistan harbored the Taliban thus preserving them to make a come back...officially we weren't allowed to go into Pakistan after them and they knew it. Kind of what the Viet Nam vets had to contend with when the VC and NVA were allowed into sanctuaries and the US troops were forbidden to go into these areas...

Russia invaded a sovereign country which asked for assistance.....what would you propose the rest of the world to do? Should we have stood back and watched them be slaughtered or maybe have a nuclear power station go up in a mushroom cloud?

NATO has to do what it needs to in order for Ukraine to be successful in repelling Russia....if not, many other countries will be at great risk of invasion.....

The petty in-fighting between your liberals and conservatives is getting old and tired.
Funny... the Taliban are already getting tired of "managing" the people of Afganistan. They are much happier running around like Gingus Kahn and slaughtering whoever gets in their way. They don't like desk jobs but they do enjoy selling US Military guns and bullets until supplies run out.
That part of the world with its cruel religious or anti religious beliefs will remain the way it is for the foreseeable future.

As far as Ukraine goes... much has been destroyed that will require billions more of no bid contracts ( like Iraq ) from Haliburton and others to further deplete what's left of our US Treasury balance sheet. The US debt ceiling will keep getting raised... somebody has to pay for these wars... might as well drop another load of debt right here because Joe loves Ukraine... Ukraine has paid off nicely since the prosecutor was fired on Joes wishes so a billion dollar loan guarantee could be made legit in 2016. Meanwhile.... Its going to take a while to remove the piles of smoking buildings that have been rendered junk by the Russian artillery shells that created massive homelessness for Ukrainians.

Putin wants the country of Ukraine for the production of bulk products it produces and the access it gives him to Eastern Europe markets. Every country in the world is really a business entity labeled as a country. Possessing the country of Ukraine is a valuable asset for Putin.

So, where are we now? 90 seconds away from zero on the Doomsday clock as Biden has talked about a winnable nuclear exchange with Russia in a room full of Elites like he did recently? Nobody can act or talk more foolishly than Joe... he is the Supreme idiot of our country right now.
 
The video evidence has shown quite a bit of damming evidence already....

You knock our mission to Afghanistan....unless you were there you know only what is told to you.....fighting the Taliban and in Afghanistan is no easy feat especially when countries like Pakistan harbored the Taliban thus preserving them to make a come back...officially we weren't allowed to go into Pakistan after them and they knew it. Kind of what the Viet Nam vets had to contend with when the VC and NVA were allowed into sanctuaries and the US troops were forbidden to go into these areas...

Russia invaded a sovereign country which asked for assistance.....what would you propose the rest of the world to do? Should we have stood back and watched them be slaughtered or maybe have a nuclear power station go up in a mushroom cloud?

NATO has to do what it needs to in order for Ukraine to be successful in repelling Russia....if not, many other countries will be at great risk of invasion.....

The petty in-fighting between your liberals and conservatives is getting old and tired.
What does liberal or conservative have to do with any of this? Fighting a foe with borders being used as protection is a recipe for prolonging wars. Same ridiculous rules were in effect in Vietnam.
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Really?

What a question to ask...your whole rhetoric is based on conservative verses liberal approaches to things....

It's getting old and tired...

BYW, the entire western world is supporting Ukraine, there are Ukrainian boots on the ground training in many different countries including the US and Canada........
 
Really?

What a question to ask...your whole rhetoric is based on conservative verses liberal approaches to things....

It's getting old and tired...

BYW, the entire western world is supporting Ukraine, there are Ukrainian boots on the ground training in many different countries including the US and Canada........
Rules put in place with borders don't mean much of anything these days... just look at our southern border as a gross example of misconduct by the idiot in the White House and his minions at the Department of Homeland Security. I guess the Homeland Security Dept / Border Patrol can't do anything when all the border control rules are cancelled, reversed, or not followed.

What is getting old and tired is people breaching our borders unlawfully and tyrants invading like Putin did when invading Ukraine. It was no secret that the build up at the Russian / Ukraine border was going to spill over into Ukraine long before it happened.

War is one of our biggest exports for all the wrong reasons. However... the MIC makes billions if wars go on long enough. Exploiting lesser countries is the desire of bigger countries for the wrong greedy reasons. The book titled "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins tells us how long this has been going on.

The writing is on the wall right now... America will fail and be surpassed economically because other countries are breaking away from the dollar and forming their own exchange systems for oil. Oil is in the top 4 commodities that runs this world and vital inspire of the "Green Mandates". Once the Petro dollar dies the inflation will spike off the chart because all the nations using the dollar to buy oil on the world oil markets won't need dollars to do it. These countries will dump whatever dollars they have because they won't need them anymore... those dollars will end up here and based on what has been happening with the expansion of the money supply recently... what do you think will happen? and... Saudi Arabia has said it is going to accept other currencies for oil and do business with China to help them move forward with the Belt Road Project that will connect over 60% of the world when completed and will not include the USA in it.

One more... Putin just suspended the nuclear treaty. Why? What is his plan?
 
How long has there been a border between the US and Mexico?...what has changed in the last 2 yrs to make it a crisis now or has it always been a crisis but nobody has ever done anything...?

I agree, the tyrants who do stupid things (like invading Ukraine) are getting old and tired). Russia has been badgering Ukraine ever since the Soviet Union fell...

There will always be a need for petroleum for manufacturing, building roads, etc, etc...there is little worry that it will disappear any time soon.


Putin is "sabre rattling" hoping he can make the west blink.....the biggest threat he has left is to yell that he has nukes and will use them.
 
How long has there been a border between the US and Mexico?...what has changed in the last 2 yrs to make it a crisis now or has it always been a crisis but nobody has ever done anything...?

I agree, the tyrants who do stupid things (like invading Ukraine) are getting old and tired). Russia has been badgering Ukraine ever since the Soviet Union fell...

There will always be a need for petroleum for manufacturing, building roads, etc, etc...there is little worry that it will disappear any time soon.


Putin is "sabre rattling" hoping he can make the west blink.....the biggest threat he has left is to yell that he has nukes and will use them.
A few short years ago record levels of low illegal border crossing were happening. Every state is a border state now as the feds and some state governors have exported illegals to all states including northern states.

Putin badgering Ukraine? Perhaps the nagging had gone on for years, then we had a puppet installed in 2020 and several rogue players have stepped up their stupid games. The difference is Russia isn't bankrupt now and the cash for oil is going to start picking up even more as China partners up with Russia on energy.

If you research the Belt Road project you can see how it will impact trade in the coming years.

Who is foolish enough to call Putin's bluff? The man is a tyrant... and tyrants like to flex their power. We are rational, Despots are not. When you keep in place the filter all of us normal people have you think it could never happen. Well, it didn't stop our president Harry Truman in 1945 did it?

What do you think would have happened if Japan also had atomic bombs ready to go if provoked by our bombs? We only dropped the 2 bombs because we knew we were the only country that had them. We also didn't have anymore atomic bombs ready to go and we didn't tell Japan we were fresh out. When ever you depend on the mental stability of one man the risk is higher than we normally think it is. I take it you trust Putin... well, it does appear one guy does trust him... Edward Snowden does but he isn't a threat to Russia.
 
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I was watching a bit of the insurrection committee hearing today....

An interesting watch and anyone who still believes the people who attacked the capital deserves "our love" or "thanks" need to really wake the heck up.

Hopefully at the end of this hearing, the person and people responsible are punished to the full extent possible.
 
Did you look at the source of the link you provided?

What makes you think I'd believe anything from this source?

What happened Jan 6th is not a regular everyday protest or riot, it was methodically planned and executed with a specific purpose...
 
I was watching a bit of the insurrection committee hearing today....

An interesting watch and anyone who still believes the people who attacked the capital deserves "our love" or "thanks" need to really wake the heck up.

Hopefully at the end of this hearing, the person and people responsible are punished to the full extent possible.
I agree... lets see who organized and retaliated against the rule of law in America.

Study: Up To 95 Percent Of 2020 U.S. Riots Are Linked To Black Lives Matter

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Contrary to corporate media narratives, up to 95 percent of this summer’s riots are linked to Black Lives Matter activism, according to data collected by the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED). The data also show that nearly 6 percent — or more than 1 in 20 — of U.S. protests between May 26 and Sept. 5 involved rioting, looting, and similar violence, including 47 fatalities.

ACLED is a nonprofit organization that tracks conflict across the globe. Its U.S. project that collected the summer protest data is supported by Princeton University. The project’s spreadsheet collating tens of thousands of data points documents 12,045 incidents of U.S. civil unrest from May 26, 2020 to Sept. 5, 2020. May 26 is the day after George Floyd’s death in police custody with enough fentanyl in his system to have died of an overdose if police had never touched him.



Of the 633 incidents coded as riots, 88 percent are recorded as involving Black Lives Matter activists. Data for 51 incidents lack information about the perpetrators’ identities. BLM activists were involved in 95 percent of the riots for which there is information about the perpetrators’ affiliation.

Early estimates from insurance agencies say the cost of this summer’s rioting will set a record surpassing that of the 1992 Rodney King riots, which cost an inflation-adjusted $1.2 billion. Much of that will be paid by taxpayers in the form of overtime and hazard pay for police and EMTs, emergency room visits, destruction of public property, and more. Of course, rioters are inflicting these costs during a time governments, and the people who fund them, have fewer resources due to coronavirus shutdowns and pent-up entitlement obligations.

A look at an interactive map illustrating the data shows just how widespread the summer BLM-linked rioting has been. It has not been limited merely to anarchist strongholds such as Portland, Oregon, or locales that saw media-spotlighted violent interactions between police and suspects, but has stretched across both major and minor U.S. cities and included dozens of locales with no violent police incidents this summer.

Here are some screenshots of the map. The circle size indicates the number of riots.
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Midwest/Mid East Coast Riot LocationsAccording to this record, rioting occurred in the United States this summer not just in Portland, New York City, Chicago, Washington DC, and other large U.S. cities, but in small and midsize cities such as Fort Collins, Co. (population 170,000), Cottonwood Heights, Utah (population 33,800), Gilbert, Ariz. (population 258,900), Wichita, Kan. (population 388,800), and Davenport, Iowa (population 382,600). Forty-seven states have seen riots this summer.

A report accompanying the data project, however, reads like an upscale attempt to blame the police for criminals’ decision to steal, kill, and destroy. Several times the report explicitly does so, such as here: “Although federal authorities were purportedly deployed to keep the peace, the move appears to have re-escalated tensions. Prior to the deployment, over 83% of demonstrations in Oregon were non-violent. Post-deployment, the percentage of violent demonstrations has risen from under 17% to over 42% (see graph below), suggesting that the federal response has only aggravated unrest.”

This is a logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Because one thing happened after another, the first thing caused the second. It’s just plain false. In science, this error is described as the difference between correlation and causation. Social scientists ought to be aware of and refrain from employing it, yet these did not.

The cause of violence is not the police. It is not poverty. It is not one’s race. To say so is in fact a smear against poor people and people of the racial group identified. The cause of violence is the people who have chosen to be violent.

Rather than assigning responsibility for violence to those who engage in it, the report constantly pushes the criminal victimization narrative that the rioters are not to blame for their rioting. This is abuser psychology 101: The abuser is never responsible for his or her abuse. The people who might object to it are. This is also false and manipulative.

The report also attempts to downplay the wave of BLM-linked violence sweeping the nation this summer, even while documenting it.

“The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity,” it states. “Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests.”

I’m sure it is comforting to those whose businesses have been burned down and insurance won’t cover it to hear that the movement that ruined their livelihoods protests peacefully in most other cities.

When unarmed black people comprise 1.2 percent (or less) of annual police shootings, it is alleged to be a gross injustice that may legitimize, or at least excuse, murder, and theft. Yet when an activist movement is linked with riots approximately 6 percent of the time it engages in public protest, we are to see that movement as “non-violent.”

ACLED labels a 5 percent rate of police use of “force” — such as rubber bullets, tear gas, pepper spray, and other crowd dispersal techniques — as “heavy handed.” Thus ACLED both claims a 6 percent rate of rioting is “peaceful” and “non-violent” and that a 5 percent rate of police response to such riots is “heavy handed.”

“Over 5% of all events linked to the BLM movement have been met with force by authorities, compared to under 1% of all other demonstrations,” its report says. Elsewhere, it says: “ACLED conducted a pilot data collection program for the US last summer, allowing for comparison of the current moment with the same time period last year. In July of this year alone, ACLED records nearly 2,000 demonstrations — an increase of 42% from the 1,400 demonstrations recorded in July 2019.”

The violence is not limited to the extreme of rioting. It is pervasive in the summer 2020 protests. Of the 12,045 incidents recorded by ACLED, 1,143 — or nearly 1 in 10 — involved violence of some sort: rioting, looting, clashes with police, cars rammed into crowds, bystanders pepper-sprayed, armed attacks. Of these violent incidents, 84 percent involved BLM.

These statistics could be interpreted as indicating BLM is unusually violent among U.S. political movements, but ACLED interprets it in a way that enables resentment against police. Widespread U.S. political demonstrations such as the Tea Party, however, almost never featured violence despite holding thousands of events. Tea Partiers were even known for cleaning up the public areas where they demonstrated.

The report goes on amazingly to suggest that police standing behind barricades using tear gas and rubber bullets is a disproportionate use of force against rioting in Portland that has includedthe use of blinding lasers, rushes at barricades with clubs, destruction of public buildings, bomb-throwing, arson, and murder: “In some contexts, like Seattle, Washington and Portland, Oregon (see below), the heavy-handed police response appears to have inflamed tensions and increased the risk of violent escalation,” the ACLED report says.

Judge for yourself whether police use of force and riot-dispersal techniques often seems justified by reading the project’s summaries of some of these riots based on largely local news reports. I picked incidents from smaller cities to avoid the most sensational and nationally publicized instances, in an effort to fairly illustrate what police were responding to. The italicized material below is all quoted directly from the project. The bold is added.
On 28 May 2020, about 200-400 people demonstrated in Columbus, Ohio in support of the Black Lives Matter movement and against police brutality and the death of George Floyd. The demonstration turned violent when businesses and the Ohio Statehouse were damaged. Some people threw water bottles, smoke bombs, and other items at police. Police used tear gas on the demonstrators.On 28 May 2020, around 400 people held a demonstration in Albuquerque, New Mexico over the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police. At night, the demonstration turned violent when a group of rioters were approaching vehicles and trying to damage them. Also, several shots were fired from a car and 4 people were arrested. Another man took a baseball bat and started smashing police car’s windows. Police used gas to disperse the crowd and control the area.

On 29 May 2020, hundreds of people attended a demonstration in Fort Wayne, Indiana, in support of the Black Lives Matter movement and against the death of George Floyd. The demonstration was initially peaceful until conflicts broke out between the demonstrators and the police. A demonstrator was pepper-sprayed twice in the face. Another demonstrator was shoved to the ground. Vandalism was reported. 29 people were arrested. Clashes continued until the next morning.

On 29 May 2020, over 1000 demonstrations [sic] were held in Des Moines, Iowa over the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police. Police vehicles and buildings were damaged. Police used pepper spray and tear gas and made 12 arrests.
On 30 May 2020, people demonstrated in Grand Rapids (Michigan) in support of the Black Lives Matter movement and against police brutality and the death of George Floyd. Rioters smashed windows and lit fires. A non-violent demonstrator was pepper-sprayed and shot in the face with a ‘Spede-Heat’ round by a police officer.See the descriptions and locations of every riot recorded in the “Details of Events” box here.

According to many innocent victims of this wave of injustice, the police response is not robust enough. They want to know why the police are not protecting them and their property. They pay taxes. They contribute to the common good rather than attempt to destroy it. What’s the point of mayors and governors if they don’t ensure their police protect innocent people and their property when rioters come to town?
BLM is far left. Name a far right entity that inflicted 5% of this damage.

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Where is this data from? What is the source?

Take a look at actual video footage of most of these riots and you will see a myriad of people involved, many fringe and subversive groups use these protests to cover their activities.....BLM might have started the protest but in many cases other groups come in and fan the flames..

There is lots of footage of what appears to be white protesters burning cars and smashing windows....

Violence is violence..

My original point still stands, Jan 6th had nothing to do with these protests/riots and was a direct attack on US democracy....something not seen since the war between the states.

Not all BLM here:

 
Where is this data from? What is the source?

Take a look at actual video footage of most of these riots and you will see a myriad of people involved, many fringe and subversive groups use these protests to cover their activities.....BLM might have started the protest but in many cases other groups come in and fan the flames..

There is lots of footage of what appears to be white protesters burning cars and smashing windows....

Violence is violence..

My original point still stands, Jan 6th had nothing to do with these protests/riots and was a direct attack on US democracy....something not seen since the war between the states.
The source is identified in the first few lines of the study.

Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED).

The MSM has done a fantastic job of propagandizing anyone interested in looking for the truth. Anybody doubting the "official story" is labeled a a misinformed idiot / conspiracy nut... kinda like the label some people right here like to label me as. I don't care. I have been around long enough to live through episodes of lying media right where I lived at the time it was happening.

The funny part about so many so called "conspiracies" is that many of them 10 to 15 years later are determined to be true. By that time the memories of those events have been filed away in peoples memories and then are forgotten like so many other emotional events are in peoples memories that have faded over time.

So... label Jan 6th anyway you like... just keep in mind the Jan 6th committee would not allow any information to be presented that contradicted the activities recorded on video that day for one purpose.... and that purpose is to stay in power and make sure nobody is ever elected again that the leftist marxist idiots that want total control over this country never see an opposing politician ever elected again.

Its party over country again and again. When the truth comes out the MSM sounds like a chorus of mocking birds attacking whomever is contradicting the messages from the other side of the narrative they are promoting. The last example was just the other day when Tucker presented video of Capitol Police escorting the guy dressed in costume. Tucker didn't even show the video where this individual and another man were actually discussing and given permission by Capitol Police to gain deeper access into the Capitol.
 
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The source is identified in the first few lines of the study.

Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED).
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There sure is a lot of violence within the US....

However like I said before, it might have been initiated by the BLM movement but it appears many other groups become involved...this study even says that 93% of BLM protests have not been violent.

There have been quite a few studies which show US police forces to be inadequately trained and prepared for protest/riot duties (or even their regular duties) compared to their European counterparts.
 
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