The election is over

Zerks is our forum version of the stickers on the car in front of us. Helps to pass the time while you wait for the light to change.
Commie Red05 supporter is a fine example of what it means to be labeled a "Sheeple". If we are going to pigeon hole people lets make sure it goes both ways. Its real simple... you don't look for the truth on your own... instead, you just read the headlines that are but a part of the indoctrination spin cycle that so many people think like you are stuck inside of.... You probably don't like to read anyway... its probably not something you enjoy.
 
You say people attacked the Capitol? What was happening in a number of major cities in the USA last summer ? The burning, looting, killing and maiming was supported by the leftist marxist dimtards. Kamala Harris was even raising money to bail these thugs out... go look at their mug shots sometime... none of them are likely to rehabilitate because they are radicals. Those events were real attacks... and those attacks had one purpose... to destroy the history and rule of law in this country. It is simple... out of chaos comes change... and out of change comes totalitarian rule...

The real wake up is seeing that this country has been under attack for decades. JFK spelled it out clearly in his speech in 1961 and it rings even more true today than it ever did. The social media tools used today are much more impactful than the TV and newspapers were back in those days.

If you think the election was legit then your world view is skewed beyond reason. It appears with the voting machines and software being used the election could be directed to go the way anybody with power wanted it to go. Plenty of circumstances were shown to millions that rules were broken that greatly affected to outcome of the election. This was the largest voter fraud organization ever assembled by the leftist marxist for the sole purpose of stealing that election... after 2016 it was decided by the dimtards that an opposing candidate from any party would never win again. Hillary said it well after the 2020 election... paraphrased... never concede no matter what the outcome is believed to be...
I personally didn't say people (domestic terrorists) attacked your capital in order to disrupt a legal electoral vote count....the videos say they did...sadly there were even active military members and police officer in the insurrection fighting their way illegally into the capital building and in the process were injuring capital police of which many were ex military members themselves...the thought of this makes my blood boil.

Next you will be saying the witnesses are actually paid actors and nobody was hurt during the insurrection which was spurned by your master. Who by the way is a real piece of work and I can only hope his participation in all this is realized and he pays the price for this.

There is a huge difference between an insurrection against democracy and a racial riot spurned by centuries of racial imparity....these riots need to be a wake up call for law makers to abolish the racial divide and for the people of the US to accept diversity.
 
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Allen Jones and Carlson tucker are the A team
I'd certainly not want to see or know who the B team is...the mentioned persons seem to have the main goal of creating ill-will more than the passage of information.
 
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To you lefties he is kryptonite... I bet you don't like Mark Stien either... or the things Rush use to describe to his audience about how the leftist dimtards operate... I wouldn't call them Democrats anymore... they are pretty well beyond the left side of the chart these days.
A person operating in the far right like this guy does is just as dangerous as a person who operates in the far left.

Look at the old news reels of 1930s Germany and you see people like this on those. People who spew hate and have a craving desire to create division amongst the people...
 
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I'd certainly not want to see or know who the B team is...the mentioned persons seem to have the main goal of creating ill-will more than the passage of information.
I am not aware of Mr Jones... however... Tucker has hit it out of the park many times when revealing the skullduggery, hypocracy and dishonesty in politics that continues unabated.

We are experiencing a coordinated attack from the media, leftist politicians of both parties, academia and Hollywood elites that tow the party line for job security.
 
A person operating in the far right like this guy does is just as dangerous as a person who operates in the far left.

Look at the old news reels of 1930s Germany and you see people like this on those. People who spew hate and have a craving desire to create division amongst the people...
I understand what extremism looks like. Now... consider the justification for both sides.
The lefties cry racism and inequality...
The righties accused the largest voter fraud organization ( Bidens words ) of rigging and stealing the 2020 presidential election.

Which one was motivated out of an event that clearly showed deception and dishonesty on a grand scale?

I know... you think the 2020 election was straight up and honest... nobody voted illegally... nobody manipulated computers illegally... nobody broke rules when it came to witnessing the votes being counted. Those windows being blocked out with paper in the buildings where votes were being counted was about what? Was it people hiding nothing to see?

The news reels you mention from Germany where Hitler manipulated the masses are a powerful example of how easily those Germans could believe revenge was the answer in the wake of WW 1. Hitler was a master at manipulating people. Hitler sold the German people that it was time to take back what had been taken from them... or... so it is said anyway.

Who bought up for dirt cheap German businesses and property after WW 1 when inflation got out of control and the value of Germany's currency devalued to almost nothing?

It begs the question... are wars started over failed business relations between countries?

 
I just rode my Honda almost 4000 miles to go see Stephen King's old house in Bangor, Maine. I read plenty; albeit fiction. It's near impossible to find news articles that aren't soaked in left or right opinions, so I avoid them pretty much.
Good for you that you read... History books that were written a while back before the revisionist history revolution kicked into a higher gear... One good example... Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins will keep interested. Another one that I couldn't put down for 3 days back in 2005 was
titled "New World Order Exposed" by Victor Thorn.... aka... Scott Mafoo. (spell error?) Anyway.... Victor died under mysterious circumstances... different, but unexpected like Seth Rich, Micheal Hastings, and James Trafficant a former congressman from Ohio as well as many others.

Fiction is for entertainment... makes for a good escape... but, books like the Creature from Jekell Island and Crossfire are deep dives into the historical records and tone your world view a bit.
 
Good for you that you read... History books that were written a while back before the revisionist history revolution kicked into a higher gear... One good example... Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins will keep interested. Another one that I couldn't put down for 3 days back in 2005 was
titled "New World Order Exposed" by Victor Thorn.... aka... Scott Mafoo. (spell error?) Anyway.... Victor died under mysterious circumstances... different, but unexpected like Seth Rich, Micheal Hastings, and James Trafficant a former congressman from Ohio as well as many others.

Fiction is for entertainment... makes for a good escape... but, books like the Creature from Jekell Island and Crossfire are deep dives into the historical records and tone your world view a bit.
On Thorn; I tried to read Hillary (and Bill) to get an objective view. He spent a lot of energy trying to stain her reputation but instead of proof I read repetitive conjecture. I was not able to finish it.
 
On Thorn; I tried to read Hillary (and Bill) to get an objective view. He spent a lot of energy trying to stain her reputation but instead of proof I read repetitive conjecture. I was not able to finish it.
I gave that book away a long time ago... As I recall it covered a lot more than Bill and Hillary.

The Secret Service agents memories tell us a few things about that pair... The crowning achievement after leaving the White House in 2000 was being ordered to return all the White House objects that were part of the history of the White House.... They just stole items on the way out... What a poor example of immature behavior... talk about no respect. It's who they are....
 
The crowning achievement after leaving the White House in 2000 was being ordered to return all the White House objects that were part of the history of the White House.... They just stole items on the way out... What a poor example of immature behavior... talk about no respect. It's who they are....
That's not true. Yes, they were given many gifts while Bill was President, not White House history, and they abided by the rules of whether the gifts are given by foreign governments or officials (therefor given to the U.S.), and on the other hand, gifts from American citizens which are considered personal gifts. I personally like Bill; Hillary I could take or leave, but my opinion of her attitude does not condemn her in any way.
 
That's not true. Yes, they were given many gifts while Bill was President, not White House history, and they abided by the rules of whether the gifts are given by foreign governments or officials (therefor given to the U.S.), and on the other hand, gifts from American citizens which are considered personal gifts. I personally like Bill; Hillary I could take or leave, but my opinion of her attitude does not condemn her in any way.
When you said its "Not True" I was assuming you would post a link from somewhere that tells the story that throws doubt on the return of stolen items. Isn't $28,000 in stolen items considered a felony?

 
When you said its "Not True" I was assuming you would post a link from somewhere that tells the story that throws doubt on the return of stolen items. Isn't $28,000 in stolen items considered a felony?

Read your link, Zerks. They reported everything they were taking immediately upon leaving; that is not stealing, but a misinterpretation of how the gifts were accepted. They returned or paid for anything in question, including some that were not in question. Your initial reporting of them stealing things from White House history is completely distorted, but coming from you, it reads normally.
 
Read your link, Zerks. They reported everything they were taking immediately upon leaving; that is not stealing, but a misinterpretation of how the gifts were accepted. They returned or paid for anything in question, including some that were not in question. Your initial reporting of them stealing things from White House history is completely distorted, but coming from you, it reads normally.
They "thought" they were personal gifts... lol ! You didn't address the other points I made either that point to very disturbing behavior for a man that is so highly esteemed by those that can't look at the content of his character ... but... that is normal for you... Clinton is your type of guy.
 
I don't know the Clintons better than anybody else not in their lives, but I don't see millionaires stealing furniture and china out the back door. Our summations of the incident differ but I doubt you would recognize me if we chatted at a rest stop, judging by your opinion of what my type is. It's all good.
 
As it regards the political climate following Jan 6th... and for those that agree with Nancy and Chuck that it was all Trump's fault.

Dare I Say That January 6 Was Not an Insurrection?
In truth, this canard of “insurrection” does grave damage to the country.


by DOV FISCHER
August 1, 2021, 12:38 AMPlease don’t share this article with anyone except for your neighbors, friends, enemies, relatives, and coworkers — I don’t want to get into trouble — but I remain adamant that January 6 was not an insurrection. To say otherwise is a despicable lie.
Insurrection was not on the mind of anyone serious at the Capitol on January 6. It was a very large demonstration aimed at protesting the way an election was conducted. No matter what anyone thinks of the November 2020 election, there was something wrong with states changing their election laws months, even weeks before balloting. In addition, social media monopolies suppressed the news of the Hunter Biden laptop, which would have been a game changer.

In the face of all that stuff, many thousands came to Washington, D.C. to protest. They did not come to seize the reins of power. There were no U.S. military generals or captains or colonels or lieutenants leading or strategizing a coup. There was no shooting of rifles or taking of hostages. Rather, people came dressed like it was a carnival, such as the men dressed in bear or wolverine outfits.

Anyone who ever has read or learned anything about military coups or Bolshevik-style revolutions knows that January 6 was a demonstration that got out of hand, as did scores of racist, anti-Semitic “Death to the Police” Black Lives Matter demonstrations all summer.

The D.C. Capitol Police proved to be incompetent — something we knew already — and failed to set up sufficient barriers. Consequently, a bunch of angry people in the front lines charged the police barricades and got through, and the throng mindlessly followed them.


They burst into the Capitol because that’s where the throng flowed. For 99 percent of those inside, it was pure curiosity. It was like the people who almost tore down the White House when celebrants thronged to fete the newly elected Andrew Jackson.

Remember the guy sitting on Nancy Pelosi’s chair? Do you think he came like John Brown in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia, to seize military weapons and incite a national insurrection? Of course not. Be real. The guy was having the time of his life. Or the characters in the crazy outfits?

Thirty-five years ago, I was national executive vice president of the Likud Zionists of America. We supported the ideas of Ze’ev Jabotinsky, Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, and Benjamin Netanyahu — and lobbied to gain support in Congress for Israel’s rights to Judea and Samaria (the misnomered “West Bank”). We were headquartered in Manhattan, and one day I hosted a Michigan congressman who came to the east coast to be the guest of honor at our monthly program. I spent the day with him and his fiancee, showing them around Manhattan. We got more than we bargained for because it was during the years before Rudy Giuliani. So when we visited Times Square, a hooker propositioned the congressman while I was talking with his bride-to-be half a block away. We went to Columbia University, Central Park, Lincoln Center, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Frick House (my favorite museum), the J.P. Morgan House, Macy’s at Herald Square, and to the top of both the Empire State Building and the World Trade Center. Since it was Manhattan, we even got stopped in Greenwich Village’s Washington Square Park by a drug pusher offering to sell us weed. We also got to see from our car a guy shoot a pistol at someone in Midtown. For this rural Michigan legislator, it was an eye-opener and also lots of fun. For part of the day, I took the guy to Turtle Bay to see the United Nations. We got in, and we broke off from the tour. The next thing we knew, we were in either the General Assembly or Security Council room. (I don’t recall which.) The room was empty. The congressman asked me whether, if we closed the door and turned on the lights, I kindly would take some photos of him with the 35-millimeter camera we brought while he would stand at the rostrum and pose as though speaking to the General Assembly. He told me he would use the photo in his next mailer in his rural congressional district to convey to voters that he had been invited to speak to world leaders at the U.N. What did I care? I took the photos. That night we had dinner at Schmulka Bernstein’s, the best kosher Chinese restaurant ever.

Was that congressman undertaking a world insurrection and trying to seize the United Nations? Of course not. He was having the time of his life. The door to the room had been left open, and his fiancee was with him, and it was fun. In the same way, the character who ended up in Pelosi’s office with his shoes on her desk was having fun. He had followed the throng, and he ended up where he did. He had not come to seize the government.

Anyone sensible, regardless of personal politics, knows that if January 6 honestly had been contemplated as an insurrection, lots of bullets would have been fired. But where was the insurrection? Where was the coup? Instead, someone killed Ashli Babbitt — Say Her Name — a United States Air Force 14-year veteran. Real Clear Politics seems to have identified her killer.

This is why the trespassers now on trial for January 6 law-breaking are getting sentences like eight months or just probation. By contrast, John Brown’s sons, Watson and Oliver, were killed on site, while he was sentenced to death only two weeks later and was hanged only a month after that. So the people who came to rally on January 6 and to hear the President of the United States did not come to overthrow the elected government. Rather, they came to demonstrate their disgust with a broken system, and the thing got no less out of hand than did a summer of left-wing Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots.

Certainly, perhaps four or five people came to overthrow the government. They just forgot to tell anyone else. What kind of insurrection is that? Would the Bolsheviks have taken Russia or Mao China if simply Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky had shown up one day with a manifesto and a few thousand people chanting slogans? Would Mao have gotten China that way?

Pelosi has fixated on a political strategy of doing an annual Passion Play about “rescuing democracy” from “fascism” (i.e., from those who do not vote Democrat). One year it was a Trump impeachment. The next year another Trump impeachment. This year: no Trump, so a January 6 Insurrection Investigation.

In truth, this canard of “insurrection” does grave damage to the country. Democracy is not in danger from Republican conservatives nor populists. We just want to be left alone, to enjoy this greatest of all countries, to keep the lies of “systemic racism” and “critical race theory” out of our kids’ and grandkids’ schools, to keep the police maximally funded and reinforced, to control inflation as in the Trump days, and to be spared from having to pay reparations to people whom we did not harm. Instead, by fostering the Big Lie of “January 6 Insurrection,” Pelosi inserts the idea of insurrection into the American psyche and arena. She takes the unspoken — the Verboten, the Taboo — and she gets Americans of different stripes thinking: “Hmmm. An insurrection? Hmmm.”

This is terrible. We must get rid of her in November 2022. The old-fashioned American way: at the ballot box.
 
Members of the Senate and the ex vice president threatened, police officers beaten and property damage to our Capitol is called a demonstration? What a bunch of horseshidt.
 
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