The Law

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i'm not above the law.. i am the fuggin law!!

fuhget all you flatfoots!!

haha.. just playing... I've always had a pretty good relationship wif da' popo. Several warnings.. several tickets when I was younger. Never been pulled over on a bike.. and no I wasn't runnin.. haha.. or atleast I never ran off and left one that I knew as actually chasing me.. not saying it hasn't happened un-intentionally.

actually passed a cop at probably 90% lean, knee skimming (not dragging, but skimming) on the ole 750 in a curve in a notorious bike twistie hang out spot.. gave him the "NOD" as I went by.. wasn't paying any attention to if he returned it.. but he didn't pull me over anyways.
 
I wish I could sit here and say every cop is a true professional. NOT So. I absolutely agree that the bad apples should be yanked from the tree and made into cider. (just came to me)  
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 Unfortunately there are some who make it difficult for all. Just like the squid on the highway up on one wheel in between lanes of traffic. Cagers don't say. "$^#@* SQUID". Nope, it's "$^#@* biker".
 
CHP motors are the strictest for CVC infractions here in the Temecula area of CA, you will almost always get wrote by one. The cursier guys are a lot more layed back when dealing with bikes, dont get me wrong I understand thier job and have never been written for something I havent deserved. It's the boys on the black and white BMW's that will get you( at least down here). You have a tuff job PDBusa we want you to get the other guy,just dont get us.



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welcome pdbusa ! your in my neighborhood ! suffolk county or are you further east ? i live in mastic beach and ride to and from sayville everyday , and everywhere else when i get a chance !
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i have nothing but great things to say about suffolk county pd , and might seem like some ass kissing too most ? but i have gotten my fair share of warnings , when i shouldve earned some paper ! i am a little wiser and older now , with lots of help from the pd! i always wanted to thank the officer who pulled me over about 9 years ago still might go look him up some time , well i spent the night in jail , driving and had too much too drink did my comunity service lost my license ! yeah but that was the last drink i had ! i am a different person now than i ever thought i could be married ,3 boys, house, dog, job, suv's, busa ! things have climbed uphill for me . the night i was pulled over changed my life and the direction i have chose to go in ! thanks !
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ps . i dont know how you do it everyday , long island is filled with some ignorant , obnoxious , people , but i guess there are a few good people here too !
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Welcome to the web site .. I wish we had a few like you here in Tampa bay ... Last Sat night Tampa PD was and is still on a sport bike crack down ...While setting at a drive in burger joint we where told not to come back to Tampa or if we do get ready to go to jail! I didn't say a word , but what i wanted to say was " last time i looked this was America and i could go anywhere i damn well please ...I never have problem with the PD because i ride like a have some IQ ..I thank you for your service and keep up the good work ...
 
Gunny,
Judging from your screenname and location, my job is easy compared to yours. You make all this possible. Thanks.
 
Hi PDBusa,

Got a question for you, or any other LEO on the board. What do you consider to be an unsafe lane change on a bike? I've been pulled over twice before and told I made an unsafe lane change. Once years ago on an F3 and once recently on my Busa. Didn't actually get a ticket either time but it was certainly a pain to have to stop and talk about it. In both cases, the explanation of what was unsafe about it was a little vague, but I didn't argue about it and that's probably why I ended up with just a verbal out of the deal. In both cases I actually signaled, then "briskly" moved to my new position. I certainly moved over much faster than I had to but I still don't see anything unsafe about what I did.

I'm curious if you guys have any type of guidelines for that kind of thing. Is it completely subjective as to what is safe and what isn't when it comes to changing from one lane to the other?

How about exhibition of acceleration type violations? It's not uncommon for me to accelerate pretty quickly up to the posted speed limit in first gear then pretty much click on through to sixth. I'm not talking using anything like full throttle on my bike but I am talking about accelerating faster than most cars on the road are capable of. Are there any official guidelines for that type of thing? If not, what is your personal policy for judging excessive acceleration?

Thanks!

-Chris
 
Respect, you gotta give it to get it.
First off, welcome aboard, PD....glad to have ya around. Ya seem like a level-headed individual.


I love this.....it's what I live my life by. ^ It's also what I try an teach my clients.


While I am not in that specific area of law enforcement, I am well aware of the sacrifices that the "Blue Curtain" makes day in an day out. A very stressful job, to say the least.



Thank you for your sacrifices.
 
Did you ever see someone shoot a cop with their foot? Butt? Big toe? Didn't think so...
My wife would diagree with you about my a$$ not being lethal  
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Ok....WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TMI!  
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I think Pacificbusa has a razor hidden somewhere there....  
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heheh....as a matter of fact, I do.


Have one in the office an one in the car.

Have a M3 Power and a M3 Championship (with Turbo heads) in the bathroom

regular M3 out in the laundry

disposables in the guest bathroom/ shower



Oh yeah....forgot to mention the buzzers in the laundry room.

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CHP motors are the strictest for CVC infractions here in the Temecula area of CA, you will almost always get wrote by one. The cursier guys are a lot more layed back when dealing with bikes, dont get me wrong I understand thier job and have never been written for something I havent deserved. It's the boys on the black and white BMW's that will get you( at least down here). You have a tuff job PDBusa we want you to get the other guy,just dont get us.
Motor Officers for ANY agency are going to be the toughest as far as traffic enforcement goes, BECAUSE, that is their only function......The individual Motor Officer usually has little discretion on whether you are getting a ticket, depending on the stop/ticket ratio that his commanders have established.

Despite what people think, there are hardly any agencies that set quotas, however, statistically, the agencies know that if an officer is out driving around doing their job, that officer will see a certain number of violations per hour, dependant on the type of area and traffic problems.  Based on that, they anticipate that the Officer will make a certain number of contacts and from those contacts, a certain number of tickets will be issued.  The exact numbers of all that are set by Watch Commanders....What all this BS boils down to, if you get pulled over by a guy whose only function in life is to enforce traffic laws, and he is pulling you over for violating one of them there traffic laws, do not be surprised if he does his job.....

Now patrol guys are a different matter all together, that depends on whether their admin want them working traffic, if not, they are usually going to operate exactly as PD described in his post.......But even with that, don't go getting fissed-off at him if he does his job, don't go home and kick the dog or your wife, when it was your wrist that got you in that situation in the first place.

Those of you asking PD how he rides his personal bike need to apply all this and understand that despite what you may think, if he decides to give in to the temptation to become squiddish, he faces a much higher and far more severe punishment than a non-le type.  For those who want to post something about professional courtesy or any of that, for any case you can cite about some cop doing something that you thought they should have gotten a ticket, I can show you a case where one lost their job or at best, ten times the amount of monetary damages that they would have if they were not a leo.

True there are exceptions and you will find a lot of those exceptions with smaller agencies, however, just remember that the majority of every contact that you may have with a leo is bound to be negative.  You are probably going to be a victim, witness, or suspect to a bad thing.....

ok, off the soap box.....


Welcome PD, good post....



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wait I was told when learning to drive to signal then once made sure clean to change lanes change and quickly move into the lane. I take it you should do it all slowly when you change lanes if it causes an accident so be it, at least you did not change too quickly I guess. people should have slowed down for ya. hmmmmm doesn't sound right does it?
I think you need "Hooked on Phonics"...

that,and to stay off the glue.

mmmmmm that sounds about right to me.
 
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