The RNC and this whole situation is just plain ridiculous

Lastly, don't EVERY apologize for making money and being successful, that IS the American Dream that EVERY American aspires, it's just some that are insanely jealous and envious.



THIS.



I'm so burnt out on the "class warfare" or better said as 'class jealousy'. Watch the current Obama attack ad on Romney. It makes me sick just watching it. I could care less that Romney is a uber millionaire. Actually, it's comforting! I wonder how many of the blind Obama followers are aware that Obama is also a millionaire?!

The world we are headed toward is a socialistic "nobody can win, so that no one has to lose". Screw that; I bust my ass, work long hours, fly all over the world for work apart from my son/family to make sure I'm more successful than the next guy....so that my son has more bullets in his business gun than the kid beside him when he comes into the job force. That's the core of what we were built on and and why America is the best country in the world. :moon:

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."--Winston Churchill
 
My Daddy always said he'd rather work for a rich guy than a poor guy, in all likelihood the rich guy gave him more opportunities than a poor guy every could....
 
My girl sent this to me just now

Sent from my iPhone

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Interesting read:

Paul Ryan

1. Dazzling
At least a quarter of Americans still don’t know who Paul Ryan is, and only about half who know and have an opinion of him view him favorably.
So, Ryan’s primary job tonight was to introduce himself and make himself seem likeable, and he did that well. The personal parts of the speech were very personally delivered, especially the touching parts where Ryan talked about his father and mother and their roles in his life. And at the end of the speech, when Ryan cheered the crowd to its feet, he showed an energy and enthusiasm that’s what voters want in leaders and what Republicans have been desperately lacking in this campaign.

To anyone watching Ryan’s speech who hasn’t been paying much attention to the ins and outs and accusations of the campaign, I suspect Ryan came across as a smart, passionate and all-around nice guy — the sort of guy you can imagine having a friendly chat with while watching your kids play soccer together. And for a lot of voters, what matters isn’t what candidates have done or what they promise to do —it’s personality. On this measure, Mitt Romney has been catastrophically struggling and with his speech, Ryan humanized himself and presumably by extension, the top of the ticket.

2. Deceiving
On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.

Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under President George W. Bush. Ryan actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to prevent other plants from closing.

Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what the president said. Period.

Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking $716 billion out of Medicare, the fact is that that amount was savings in Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget plan.

Elections should be about competing based on your record in the past and your vision for the future, not competing to see who can get away with the most lies and distortions without voters noticing or bother to care. Both parties should hold themselves to that standard. Republicans should be ashamed that there was even one misrepresentation in Ryan’s speech but sadly, there were many.

3. Distracting
And then there’s what Ryan didn’t talk about.
Ryan didn’t mention his extremist stance on banning all abortions with no exception for rape or incest, a stance that is out of touch with 75% of American voters.

Ryan didn’t mention his previous plan to hand over Social Security to Wall Street.
Ryan didn’t mention his numerous votes to raise spending and balloon the deficit when George W. Bush was president.
Ryan didn’t mention how his budget would eviscerate programs that help the poor and raise taxes on 95% of Americans in order to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires even further and increase — yes, increase —the deficit.

These aspects of Ryan’s resume and ideology are sticky to say the least. He would have been wise to tackle them head on and try and explain them away in his first real introduction to voters. But instead of Ryan airing his own dirty laundry, Democrats will get the chance.
At the end of his speech, Ryan quoted his dad, who used to say to him, “"Son. You have a choice: You can be part of the problem, or you can be part of the solution."

Ryan may have helped solve some of the likeability problems facing Romney, but ultimately by trying to deceive voters about basic facts and trying to distract voters from his own record, Ryan’s speech caused a much larger problem for himself and his running mate.
Sally Kohn is a Fox News contributor and writer.


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Fox news hires democrats? :laugh: But regardless of your opinion of the author of the article which (I read on Fox news
site, the link takes you there) it's not an accusation, it was actually very clear that he was lying, while watching the speech it was easy to find the factual information. I happen to like actually making sure what someone is telling me is a fact regardless of who it comes from that's why I check out all different news sources not just one.
 
Fox news hires democrats? :laugh: But regardless of your opinion of the author of the article which (I read on Fox news
site, the link takes you there) it's not an accusation, it was actually very clear that he was lying, while watching the speech it was easy to find the factual information. I happen to like actually making sure what someone is telling me is a fact regardless of who it comes from that's why I check out all different news sources not just one.

Acutally, yes they had at least two on last night at the convention.

A lot of her points calling him a 'liar' are opinion, not necessarily fact, and there are probably good responses to some of them. What you've got to ask yourself is: Which party is more capable of pulling the country out of this hole? Guess what it's not the Dems...

I'll have to lock my guns up when I watch the Dem's convention next week so I don't shoot the TV in utter disgust...

Why are you letting lies get in the way of a good speech? Just ask the President :whistle:
 
Fox news is a democrat propaganda arm hehehe. I agree its pretty easy these days to get fact vs what someone is saying . I am sooooo shocked that a politician was lying, just give equal time to the other side and their lies. Again, these people are part of an organized crime syndicate that is geared toward increasing their party's power over the citizens and enriching themselves on the backs of Joe and Jane taxpayer.

Fox news hires democrats? :laugh: But regardless of your opinion of the author of the article which (I read on Fox news
site, the link takes you there) it's not an accusation, it was actually very clear that he was lying, while watching the speech it was easy to find the factual information. I happen to like actually making sure what someone is telling me is a fact regardless of who it comes from that's why I check out all different news sources not just one.
 
I actually think Mitt painted TOO rosy a picture. I think he should have said: "Folks, this has gotten waaay too screwed up, and it's gonna be tough to fix, and it's going to cost EVERYBODY SOMETHING - but I know how to do it, and it's not what we are doing right now for DANG sure".
 
The responses and thoughts expressed in this thread are very interesting and enlightening. There is such division and finger pointing and blame placing amongst US it's no wonder this country is in the state it's in. It's this division that the Govt. thrives and prospers on. We do this crap to ourselves by not holding accountable and giving away way too much power and credibility. I for one am sick and tired of the negative campagain tactics and smear adds. They all SU#K, they all have their own personal interest as #1, not to mention they all lie. Thats American politics.

Is it November yet? :laugh:
 
A little DNC fact checking: Deval Patrick slammed Mitt Romney last night. But do his facts check out?

Deval Patrick succeeded Mitt Romney as governor of Massachusetts. So it made sense that the Obama campaign dispatched him to attack Romney’s record in the state. The speech was direct and forceful, and the crowd loved it. But do the facts check out? Let’s go through them, one by one.

TRUE – By the time [Mitt Romney] left office, Massachusetts was 47th in the nation in job creation…
As Politifact has found, this stat checks out. But rankings are a terrible way of comparing job growth between states. Looking at the raw Bureau of Labor Statistics data, Massachusetts’ nonfarm payrolls grew by 0.97 percent between December 2002 and December 2006, whereas the median state, Arkansas, saw payrolls grow by 4.77 percent. So the substance of Patrick’s critique is correct. Mitt Romney did oversee decidedly lackluster job growth. Whether that’s his fault is a different question — governors have limited control over state economies.

MISLEADING – … and household income in our state was declining.
This is a stretch. Here’s what median household income in Massachusetts looked like under Romney, according to the Census Bureau:
Household incomes were stagnating, and in 2006 they were a tad ($589) below their 2002 level, but in 2007 they were $1,055 above 2002 levels. If you’re going to attribute any economic outcomes to a governor — which, generally, you shouldn’t — it seems fair to include data for the year after they left office, over which they presumably have a greater impact than their successor. Patrick was right that Romney oversaw household income stagnation. But to say it was “declining” is misleading.

FALSE – [Romney] cut education deeper than anywhere else in America.
Huh? I couldn’t find evidence that Romney cut education, period. In the 2003-04 school year, Massachusetts spent $3.19 billion on education. In the 2006-07 school year, it spent $4.67 billion, according to the Census’ data. How much of this is attributable to Romney is debatable. Massachusetts’ state legislature had Democratic supermajorities in both houses, so Romney’s say over spending was limited. But this attack is difficult to substantiate.

DEBATABLE – Roads and bridges were crumbling.
This is obviously a subjective area, but many transportation experts, including Transportation Nation’s Matt Dellinger, have praised Mitt Romney’s infrastructure record as governor, due to its emphasis on “smart growth” and reducing fossil fuel consumption. The New Republic‘s Alec MacGillis has reported the same.

TRUE – Business taxes were up…
According to the Tax Foundation, the Massachusetts corporate income tax rate stayed at 9.5 percent throughout Romney’s term. But Romney enacted a 14 percent surtax in 2004, in keeping with a broader trend of raising taxes on businesses. So Patrick is right on here.

FALSE – … and business confidence was down.
The Associated Industries of Massachusetts (AIM) surveys business leaders to measure business confidence. Here’s what they found:
Source: Associated Industries of Massachusetts
To me that looks like confidence improving, not declining, between the start of 2003 and the start of 2007. So Patrick’s claim here doesn’t check out.


DEBATABLE – Our clean energy potential was stalled.
Again, this is subjective, but to be fair to Romney’s record, even though he withdrew from the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, a consortium of northeast states and Canadian provinces that established a cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions, he did implement new carbon regulations. Romney did oppose the Cape Wind offshore wind farm off Nantucket sound, a position he was joined in by Sen. Ted Kennedy, though Patrick himself has supported the project.

TRUE – [Massachusetts] had a structural budget deficit.
The Massachusetts Budget and Policy Center concluded that the budget for fiscal year 2008, shortly after Romney left and Patrick took over, had a structural deficit even before the economic crisis hit. “While the immediate cause of Massachusetts’ fiscal crisis is the national recession,” the report concluded. “policy choices made over the past decade created a structural deficit that have reduced the state’s ability to address the economic downturn.” It is accurate for Patrick to hit Romney on this point.

TRUE WITH A BUT – Today Massachusetts leads the nation in…student achievement…
Totally correct. NAEP tests, the national gold standard for educational assessment, showed Massachusetts to lead the nation in achievement in 2011, in most grades and subjects. But it also led in student achievement under Romney.

TRUE WITH A BUT - … health care coverage…
Massachusetts is the only state with a universal health care plan, so correct. As Sarah has reported, the uninsured rate is an astonishingly low 5.6 percent at last measuring — but that’s largely because of the health-care reforms Romney signed into law.

TRUE – … [and] energy efficiency
Right. The American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy last year ranked Massachusetts first in the nation among states for energy efficiency initiatives, besting California.

FALSE – Today we’re out of the deficit hole Mr. Romney left.
The Massachusets Budget and Policy Center indicted Romney for his budget record, but it doesn’t leave Patrick off the hook either. He has failed, the Center judged, to produce meaningful sources of new revenue to correct the structural budget problems that his predecessors’ tax cuts created. If Patrick is going to indict Romney for his structural deficits, he should acknowledge that those structural deficits and the longer-run problems they create persist to this day.

TRUE – We’ve achieved the highest bond rating in our history.
True. Last September, S&P upgraded Massachusetts to AA+, noting that its, Moody’s, and Fitch’s ratings together gave the state “its highest credit standing in history.”

TRUE – We’ve made the reforms in our pension and benefits systems, our schools, our transportation system and more that Mr. Romney only talked about.
Patrick has indeed signed education, pension, and transportation reforms into law, though your mileage may vary as to how good their content is.
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The general pattern in Patrick’s speech is that he overreached in trying to indict Romney’s record but generally told the truth when bragging about his own. He also conveniently left out decisions Romney made that contributed to Patrick’s impressive numbers, like the health-care reforms. The bottom line is that long-run revenue issues aside, Massachusetts is an extraordinarily well-run state with outstanding schools, a low uninsured rate, and well-rated debt. Both Patrick and Romney can take credit for that.
 
Sigh. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Things are not that great now, they were even worse a while back. Vote smart, as it could get real bad real fast.

I'm out of equities, into commodities, waiting for a big crash, just don't know when, it could be as soon as tomorrow, November, or next year, but I will be surprised if things just keep floating along forever.
 
Either way I think it's gonna get worse, before there is a chance for it to get better:

Under the Democrats plan, we are going to borrow so bad that dramatic tax increases on all American's will be the only out. All you have to do is look at Europe for the results of this plan...

Under the Republican's plan, massive spending cuts and debt reduction could put us back into a recession. All this debt we've piled up so far will come home to roost. Not going to be easy either; the Brits are doing it now, and it's painful, but they may come out of it first too.

Both parties have a tough row to hoe. I'd rather face it now and get it over with so my child has a future.
 
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