Two days at the range shooting .

[Nastee]

It is also recommended to have your rifle and hand gun in the same calibre. If you need to reload, thereis not often time to remember which is where
When I was up in Thompson MB polar bears use to migrate south of us. Sometimes right through the town. They are big mofo's
We had a sign on the inside of the door. "Once past this door you are part of the food chain.". . We use to chuckle about it. But it kept us on our toes.

Would a 10 gauge , and 460 do the job ? [/QUOTE]
Bears are very quiet even the large ones which is concerning. Record black bear taken in PA with a 50cal hand gun by younger but seasoned hunter & he said he was tracking a bear stopped near a tree to better locate movement when a bear less than 10 feet away on the other side of small drop off/brush made noise while standing up. He had been standing over the bear 847pds (if remembering correct) almost on top of where he was bed down and startled it when he stepped away from the tree. He said he had no idea it was there & got the one shot off which ended up taking the largest in the stat by hand gun.

 

[Nastee]

Off the normal thought process but a glock 10mm is comparable to 41mag and holds 15rounds. So a formidable firearm used by a few in western bear regions as protection. But truly any shot with a hand gun relies on placement. Use what you have in that situation; given choice I would not recommend below 41mag, 45acp in a pinch not recomended. What happens is the round will enter but not have the power to penetrate very far due to pelt/ thick fat layer; the bullet goes in but the hole gets plugged up by the fat so it is pissed and able to maul you. A flat point hard lead bullet jacketed on bottom only as most high pressure guns can become damaged where the cylinder meets the forcing cone of the barrel using jackted bullets that become liquid copper under high cup pressure eroding this area. So spend a little money on a solid bullet or round made for the intended use. Also shooting big stuff takes getting use to but if you develop a flinch leave it alone for awhile work on something smaller. Not sure if flinching place 3 rounds in revolver spin cylinder & fire at target. If gun goes click & you push gun downward it becomes very apparent; not a macho thing get out of bad habits they make progress near impossible.

 

[Nastee]

[ . Grizzly maybe , but you can count ill have one serious long gun , and pistol if in their area .

It is also recommended to have your rifle and hand gun in the same calibre. If you need to reload, thereis not often time to remember which is where
When I was up in Thompson MB polar bears use to migrate south of us. Sometimes right through the town. They are big mofo's
We had a sign on the inside of the door. "Once past this door you are part of the food chain.". . We use to chuckle about it. But it kept us on our toes.[/QUOTE]
Not always practical with large game. Pistols just aren't that big except for contenders/Kel-Tec which are rifle rounds 220,223 on up in hand held pistol form. Now for people yes the army had that right 1911 45acp to go along with tommy gun all used same large box of ammo nothing to mess up or think about good to go.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

 

[cwalker2]

Just bought my first gun, a Glock 17. Not sure about a concealed carry - that's a huge responsibility. I'm not a gun-ho sort, but these days it seems negligent to not invest in some last resort protection. Hopefully I will find shooting it fun and get very proficient with it. Nervous about the fact that most guns shoot their owners. Also running into the wrong cop with it in the car on holster.

The "Most guns shooting their owners" claim, I believe is highly fabricated. According to the FBI and the CDC you have about a 0.2% chance of having your own weapon used against you in a crime. That's 1 out of 500. I figure if I'm robbed 499 times I'll just shoot myself and get it over with.

 

[Johnnie Phatt]

That ball turrentlooks like a hoot and a half

 

[Bumblebee]

That ball turrentlooks like a hoot and a half

On the ground at least...10,000 ft with German fighters shooting at you not so much

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

My Pop welded some of those turrets onto the fuselage during the war. Later on he ran a work crew of German POWs.

 

[Mr Brown]

The "Most guns shooting their owners" claim, I believe is highly fabricated. According to the FBI and the CDC you have about a 0.2% chance of having your own weapon used against you in a crime. That's 1 out of 500. I figure if I'm robbed 499 times I'll just shoot myself and get it over with.

Where are you getting the FBI and CDC information from?
Yes, the owner has a very small percentage of a gun being used against them, however that statistic only tells a small part of the story. A gun has a very high likelihood of causing harm, intentional or otherwise, to a person in the household. Some of this is simply because of proximity, and doesn't tell the whole story either. Stats are an interesting tool, often misused in the hands of the untrained. Sound familiar?

 

[fallenarch]

 

[Bumblebee]

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A Japanese bike in front of a weapon that helped bring Japan to their knees...ironic isn't it?

Outstanding pictures by the way.

 

[Bumblebee]

Where are you getting the FBI and CDC information from?
Yes, the owner has a very small percentage of a gun being used against them, however that statistic only tells a small part of the story. A gun has a very high likelihood of causing harm, intentional or otherwise, to a person in the household. Some of this is simply because of proximity, and doesn't tell the whole story either. Stats are an interesting tool, often misused in the hands of the untrained. Sound familiar?

Lots of times when I watch the news or view it on line, there seems to be many innocents killed by a handgun in the household. I read where a lady was killed by her own gun when her toddler found it in her purse at a store.

Sadly a gun culture will lead to this happening. On the other side of the fence, we in Canada are regulated to the hilt when it comes to weapons. We also have our fair share of gun related deaths though.

 

[Mr Brown]

Lots of times when I watch the news or view it on line, there seems to be many innocents killed by a handgun in the household. I read where a lady was killed by her own gun when her toddler found it in her purse at a store.

Sadly a gun culture will lead to this happening. On the other side of the fence, we in Canada are regulated to the hilt when it comes to weapons. We also have our fair share of gun related deaths though.

The answer isn't regulation into extinction as some on the left would like to have it, rather I think that education and reasonable legislation are key to a safer society.

 

[Bumblebee]

The answer isn't regulation into extinction as some on the left would like to have it, rather I think that education and reasonable legislation are key to a safer society.

Up here it is legislation into extinction, there may be a law coming to ban handguns here in Canada. The current government is leaning hard in that direction.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

The answer isn't regulation into extinction as some on the left would like to have it, rather I think that education and reasonable legislation are key to a safer society.

Well that certainly wouldn’t hurt but we as a society through education, regulation or legislation cannot prevent what might simply be called, human error, be it negligence, stupidity or oversight. The hunter whose dog shot him as he stepped on the trigger of his shotgun laying on the seat, the woman whose child shot her other child with her gun that slid back from under the seat, the woman whose child shot (her) with her own gun after finding it in her unguarded purse, the family who always (knew) their kids would respect their loaded gun when they weren’t home but their friends were.

 

[Mr Brown]

We can't prevent, but we can reduce the instances of error through education and legislation. A dog and toddler didn't load those weapons, or take the safety off.

 

[Bumblebee]

Who leaves a loaded gun available for a kid to find and handle anyway?

The same people who leave their kids or dogs in a hot car in the middle of the summer. Education would be lost on them unfortunately. These people should not be owning guns if they can't control them better.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

We can't prevent, but we can reduce the instances of error through education and legislation. A dog and toddler didn't load those weapons, or take the safety off.

Reduce, maybe, but even then. That dancing FBI agent whose gun discharged in a crowded room for example, was about as legislated, restricted and educated as they come and yet...

 

[Mr Brown]

Up here it is legislation into extinction, there may be a law coming to ban handguns here in Canada. The current government is leaning hard in that direction.

It's foolish to think that banning handguns will solve the problem, just as it's equally foolish to think that arming everyone will either. Politicians are only interested in reelection, not actually bringing solutions to the table.

 

[Mr Brown]

Reduce, maybe, but even then. That dancing FBI agent whose gun discharged in a crowded room for example, was about as legislated, restricted and educated as they come and yet...

Stupid hurts.
Any life saved is worth it imo. Education and sensible legislation are always a good thing, as is reduced death and injury.