A screen mesh, and supposedly can filter smaller particals than disposable filters.
Plus it has a magnet in it.
I like the idea of being able to look directly at the filter and see if there is any metal in the screen or on the magnet too.
What oil and oil filter you use on your Gen3 and why?
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A screen mesh, and supposedly can filter smaller particals than disposable filters.
Plus it has a magnet in it.
I like the idea of being able to look directly at the filter and see if there is any metal in the screen or on the magnet too.
…”A screen mesh, and supposedly can filter smaller particals than disposable filters.”
I have my doubts about that claim.
I have my doubts about that claim.
Dustin02
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No problem brother!
Dustin02
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Proven in many Motorsport's platforms. Also same type of element used in high-end fuel filters. Technology hasn't stagnated from the 60's, believe it or not...
Cut open a regular filter and compare it, plus it has a magnet.
Anything an element couldn't catch, the magnet would.
As said above, I was just waiting on someone reputable here to confirm it, and Dustin did, so I'll be getting them.
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You may be correct here, but remember street driving is NOT the same as track riding.................................................Motorsport the oils are changed regularly, if not every race or two. There is no need to worry about long-term buildups, condensation, and other outside contaminates from 6-12 months of occasional riding here and there.
There are two very different environments, and race oils and filters should NEVER be used in street driven vehicles and vise versa.
A screen filter will always outflow a paper filter, but it won't catch near the micron level a quality paper filter will.
On the track you want flow NOW regardless of anything, on the street you need to keep the oil as clean as possible as long as possible without restricting to much flow and sacrificing performance. The same goes for air filters and fuel filters.
Race bike stuff isn't always better on the street......................different environments, different usages.
Cameron
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Would you feel better if they are used in aviation? Both general aviation engines as well as turbine engines use them...
www.aircraftspruce.com
Challenger CP48110C Oil Filter | Aircraft Spruce
Challenger CP48110C Oil Filter The filter element is made from medical grade, type 304 stainless steel micronic filter cloth providing unmatched protection against oil contamination and resultant engine damage.
I'll go with the one that has the magnet in it...that'll catch more than a paper element.
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This is true. I worked in an Avionics shop and we shared a hanger with the mechanics shop next door. They did everything from Learjet complete reskins to piston and turbine engine rebuilds. They used these mesh filters almost exclusively on the aircraft they serviced for the reasons you and Six listed.Would you feel better if they are used in aviation? Both general aviation engines as well as turbine engines use them...
Challenger CP48110C Oil Filter | Aircraft Spruce
Challenger CP48110C Oil Filter The filter element is made from medical grade, type 304 stainless steel micronic filter cloth providing unmatched protection against oil contamination and resultant engine damage.
Cruising180
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Where do you buy one of these?
Flo Lifetime Reusable Oil Filter Suzuki Hayabusa / GSXR1000
Flo Lifetime Reusable Oil Filter Suzuki Fits ALL Years and Models Features Cleanable and Reusable Superior Filtration - 35 microns! Proven Aerospace, NASCAR, Indy and Formula 1 Technology High Flow Rate Easy Filter Element Inspection Unaffected by Water, Heat or Pressure Environmentally Friendly...
robbushmotorsports.ecwid.com
Cruising180
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Man that's pricey! So to clean it you can just spray it from the outside in with breakclean?Flo Lifetime Reusable Oil Filter Suzuki Hayabusa / GSXR1000
Flo Lifetime Reusable Oil Filter Suzuki Fits ALL Years and Models Features Cleanable and Reusable Superior Filtration - 35 microns! Proven Aerospace, NASCAR, Indy and Formula 1 Technology High Flow Rate Easy Filter Element Inspection Unaffected by Water, Heat or Pressure Environmentally Friendly...
Duro5341
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NO,
Again, different operating environments, demands, and conditions.
I drive my motorcycle on the street...............Not a race track, and NOT in the sky at 30.000+ft
ON THE STREET and 3000-4000km/3months at a time(6month riding season here in Canada).
With the price of that filter kit, I can put over 120,000km on my Busa changing the oil over 3500km which is a little of half the OEM recommend service interval, and I can put 240,000km on the busa following the OEM replacement mileage or once a year for the next 34 years.
I'll stick with paper filters, thank you..............................You'll be buying o-ring kits to keep it sealed up, i'll just spin a new OEM filter on.
Look up the engine masters episode where they test oil filters, for flow, filtration and HP loss.............................You'll be surprised.
Filtration will ALWAYS be a compromise between Flow Rating, Efficiency and Filtering ability in terms of micron level.
Choose the best filter that suits your budget, operating conditions/environment, and length your going to keep it there.
I won't get into recommending names, brands or specs......................same as I won't go down the rabbit hole of oil brands and viscosity.
Buy an oil filter magnet to stick on your regular filter if it makes you feel better for $20 bucks.
Cameron
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Dustin02
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Thanks bub. You do you; I'll do me.
Always sound advice......
Duro5341
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Actual Laboratory Testing of your screen VS paper filters
ANOTHER test with just the filter media itself
Keep believing the hype boys and girls, there is a reason paper filters have been the standard for almost 80 years on ICE engines.
Yes there are good and bad paper spin on filters, stick with a reputable brand that's been tested outside their factory and you'll be fine.
Look through the flash marketing, and see the honest truth to select what you need, rather than what marketing makes you think you need.
On the street your NOT riding a race bike, and your NOT Rossi either.
Just my 2 cents, I've been working on engines for over 25 years and 22 of them professionally 40+hrs a week.
Cameron
ANOTHER test with just the filter media itself
Keep believing the hype boys and girls, there is a reason paper filters have been the standard for almost 80 years on ICE engines.
Yes there are good and bad paper spin on filters, stick with a reputable brand that's been tested outside their factory and you'll be fine.
Look through the flash marketing, and see the honest truth to select what you need, rather than what marketing makes you think you need.
On the street your NOT riding a race bike, and your NOT Rossi either.
Just my 2 cents, I've been working on engines for over 25 years and 22 of them professionally 40+hrs a week.
Cameron
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