Bought the 14R, still have the busa

Mythos said:
It's true, no motorcycle manufacture wants to make a bike lots of people are hurting themselves on. LOL You need to build your own widow maker.
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I think it's the case that the market was very small for the "hyperbike" segment so Suzuki and Kawasaki dialed it back....Kawasaki already had the H2 which will easily outperform any "hyperbike" so that doomed the ZX14R as they probably didn't want to spend money trying to make it Euro 5 compliant....

If hyperbikes were the way to go, Honda could have easily brought the Super Blackbird back and made it a beast and Yamaha never even bothered.

Suzuki was kind of bold to even make a gen 3....

The smaller CC bikes are the real sellers and that's where manufacturers spend their time on which makes sense.

That being said, we had better enjoy our large beasties while we can still get them.....
 
Bumblebee said:
I think it's the case that the market was very small for the "hyperbike" segment so Suzuki and Kawasaki dialed it back....Kawasaki already had the H2 which will easily outperform any "hyperbike" so that doomed the ZX14R as they probably didn't want to spend money trying to make it Euro 5 compliant....

If hyperbikes were the way to go, Honda could have easily brought the Super Blackbird back and made it a beast and Yamaha never even bothered.

Suzuki was kind of bold to even make a gen 3....

The smaller CC bikes are the real sellers and that's where manufacturers spend their time on which makes sense.

That being said, we had better enjoy our large beasties while we can still get them.....
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Yeah I was gonna sell my 07 but I think I'm gonna hold on to it and restore it. And that Zx14r is a great buy as well. And yeah I definitely making my own widowmaker.

Also I saw this chart of motorcycle accidents just for an interesting view

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Mythos said:
I wonder if smartphone distracted driving has anything to do with the increase in motorcycle accidents from the late nineties onward?
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I'd say that is part of it....

That and modern automobiles are so complicated to operate that drivers are overwhelmed and are concentrating on operating systems more than what is outside their vehicle....

I don't know whose great idea it was to basically put an i-pad in the center of the console to control all the operations of the vehicle...not long ago there were tactile buttons that you could operate by feel and not having to look down.....adjusting the cabin temperature in the wife's Edge is a nightmare even with voice controls.....

To add to this all the "safety" features allow drivers to not do shoulder checks or rear checks before backing up as they rely on the nannies to detect everything. Around here in the winter, cameras and sensors get ice covered which render them inoperative......there are instances where the drivers look absolutely lost when trying to back up somewhere without them....
 
Mythos said:
I wonder if smartphone distracted driving has anything to do with the increase in motorcycle accidents from the late nineties onward?
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Absoloutely!
As many dumbasses who have nearly hit me when I'm riding, and many who never looked up from their phones to even realize it.
I've been street riding since the mid 90's, and smartphones didn't really become the norm until about 15 years ago, at least in terms of almost everyone having one, and a generation of idiots who grew up with their faces glued to them.
Street riding before cell phones was much better, with far fewer distracted drivers.
I also got my Class A CDL and started driving tractor trailers in 2006, through 2015, and the huge increase in cell phone useage while driving was easy to see, and quite literally too, as unless the car windows are black, you can see the phones in most people's hands directly, or in their mirrors, from being in a higher position in the seat of the big truck.
It also took the enjoyment away from driving trucks for me, as I was literally dodging idiots daily, and as a truck-driver, you are guilty until proven innocent in any incident or accident.
Virginia also passed a 'hands free' law over a year and a half ago, where you cannot text and drive, or hold a phone for a conversation, it must be voice activated only through the vehicle.
I had high hopes for this...but it's pathetic.
9 out of 10 cops that I pass, town, county sheriff, state, doesn't matter...THEY're on the phone! Wth?!
There can be no real enforcement or at least consequences for this either, as I see the same amount of people on their phones driving daily.
I never use my phone when I'm driving, and the rare time it rings when I am, I can push a button on the steering wheel and answer it...but I usually ignore it.
It makes me angry just thinking about it.
 
Down here it's a $1000 fine and they police it like crazy. In the cities there are cameras everywhere, for red lights, speeding, all of them will tag you and send a fine. lol, a friend got a $250 fine for throwing a cigarette butt out the window in front of a red light camera. Later today I have to head into a small city, I just slow down and mind my Ps and Qs.
 
sixpack577 said:
Absoloutely!
As many dumbasses who have nearly hit me when I'm riding, and many who never looked up from their phones to even realize it.
I've been street riding since the mid 90's, and smartphones didn't really become the norm until about 15 years ago, at least in terms of almost everyone having one, and a generation of idiots who grew up with their faces glued to them.
Street riding before cell phones was much better, with far fewer distracted drivers.
I also got my Class A CDL and started driving tractor trailers in 2006, through 2015, and the huge increase in cell phone useage while driving was easy to see, and quite literally too, as unless the car windows are black, you can see the phones in most people's hands directly, or in their mirrors, from being in a higher position in the seat of the big truck.
It also took the enjoyment away from driving trucks for me, as I was literally dodging idiots daily, and as a truck-driver, you are guilty until proven innocent in any incident or accident.
Virginia also passed a 'hands free' law over a year and a half ago, where you cannot text and drive, or hold a phone for a conversation, it must be voice activated only through the vehicle.
I had high hopes for this...but it's pathetic.
9 out of 10 cops that I pass, town, county sheriff, state, doesn't matter...THEY're on the phone! Wth?!
There can be no real enforcement or at least consequences for this either, as I see the same amount of people on their phones driving daily.
I never use my phone when I'm driving, and the rare time it rings when I am, I can push a button on the steering wheel and answer it...but I usually ignore it.
It makes me angry just thinking about it.
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Out here a CDL is a California drivers license. You meant ‘commercial’ right? :) Class 1s are commercial licenses.
 
Oz22 said:
Down here it's a $1000 fine and they police it like crazy. In the cities there are cameras everywhere, for red lights, speeding, all of them will tag you and send a fine. lol, a friend got a $250 fine for throwing a cigarette butt out the window in front of a red light camera. Later today I have to head into a small city, I just slow down and mind my Ps and Qs.
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I’m not a fan of cop cams for traffic enforcement but I am glad he got fined for throwing a cigarette butt on the street.
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
Out here a CDL is a California drivers license. You meant ‘commercial’ right? :) Class 1s are commercial licenses.
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Yes,
Here in Va, and many other states, Class A is tractor trailer
Class B is straight truck, and both are considered a "CDL" , for yes, commercial drivers license.
'Endorsements' are added if you are certified to haul Haz-Mat, or double trailors.
Class 'M' is for motorcycles.
No classes listed is a standard driver's license for cars and pickup trucks only.
My Va driver's license says 'Commercial Drivers License' at the top.
And the 'Class' section says "A, M" for tractor trailers and motorcycles.
I am not an active driver, but still legal to drive after I would pass a physical and drug test, and given another 2 year 'Health Card', which would deem me safe and healthy to drive for 2 years, and put back on the random drug test list.
I would not surrender my CDL class A, as there would be no reason to, and if I ever wanted to drive again, would mean that I'de have to go back to truck driving school, which there is no reason to do.
It does cost me double when I renew my license every 5 years, but if I wanted to drive tomorrow, I'de just make some calls, get a job, go take a simple physical, mainly eyes and hearing, pass the drug test, and go to work.
So it's always nice to have a backup plan to pay the bills, God forbid I ever lose the job that I have, and if no other good local jobs were available.
My Va CDL, like any state's, is also valid in 50 states, Canada, and Mexico..they just may word it's classification a little differently.
 
Oz22 said:
Down here it's a $1000 fine and they police it like crazy. In the cities there are cameras everywhere, for red lights, speeding, all of them will tag you and send a fine. lol, a friend got a $250 fine for throwing a cigarette butt out the window in front of a red light camera. Later today I have to head into a small city, I just slow down and mind my Ps and Qs.
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No plate, for the camera.
 
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