Controversial billboards

and she can take it anyway you want to give it to her... nothing to go wrong if there is no god... this could be fun.. I suppose that "right and wrong" also are just a matter of personal preference?
It doesn't take a religion to establish what is right and wrong. Nor should it take the wrath of a god to control people.

or who establishes what we are supposed to think there?
Why is it so important for some person or organization to establish what we should think? People are capable of thinking for themselves if they are not brainwashed into blind faith.

And you may want to include your Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish and just about every other faith in your "Do or Die" attack... they all use the same incentive..
They are included; the billboard did not specify a particular brand of god.

except for the Muslims, they use human grenades to push their message to the infidels...
Just like radical Christians bomb abortion clinics or how Radical/Politicised Christians perform ethnic cleansing in war.

btw, that billboard could have easily been put up by Christians... (the non lion food ones)
This one sounds a little illogical.
 
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There you go. The first reply of substance calls atheists stupid. ???

well, I did try to not word it like that, but what they are posting is incorrect making their knowledge on the subject seem less than smart. Likewise, it would be "Stupid" of me to post something that said, "You can't have any fun without God in your life" which is obviously not true. I'm picking at the logic, not a person. It IS stupid to post one's ignorance on a moving billboard.
 
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It IS stupid to post one's ignorance on a moving billboard.

Jus because this doesn't match you beliefs, doesn't mean it's stupid or ignorant. This statement epitomizes the reason these billboards are up - people with strong religious convictions don't seem to be able to respect those who don't have the same convictions. This is my opinion and does not apply to all those with strong religious convictions.
 
I'm not talking about "Beliefs" at all. The sign says

"there probably isn't a god. now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

using simple English to understand the words they have compiled into easy sentences, they state that the whole God thing involves lots of worry, and the inability to enjoy life.

That is incorrect.

but I guess I've seen stupider billboards out there :)
 
It is incorrect in your opinion. The billboards reflect the observations of the authors. They have obviously observed more unhappy believers than happy ones.

As irritating as these messages are to you, imagine how an atheist feels being bombarded with religious messages constantly. Even when one sneezes, the polite thing is to say "God bless you." Our society is saturated with religion.
 
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Jus because this doesn't match you beliefs, doesn't mean it's stupid or ignorant. This statement epitomizes the reason these billboards are up - people with strong religious convictions don't seem to be able to respect those who don't have the same convictions. This is my opinion and does not apply to all those with strong religious convictions.

+1.
 
Even when one sneezes, the polite thing is to say "God bless you." Our society is saturated with religion.

Absolutely, this is just one example of how the propagation of that line of thought is so deeply ingrained. You can't escape it in our society. I am just impolite these days, refusing to use that phrase when someone sneezes.
 
It doesn't take a religion to establish what is right and wrong. Nor should it take the wrath of a god to control people.

Why is it so important for some person or organization to establish what we should think? People are capable of thinking for themselves if they are not brainwashed into blind faith.

They are included; the billboard did not specify a particular brand of god.

Just like radical Christians bomb abortion clinics or how Radical/Politicised Christians perform ethnic cleansing in war.

This one sounds a little illogical.

What is troubling is the notion that adults can't establish right or wrong without it being based upon religion.

That said it may be true that mankind has not evolved to a point of intellectual maturity that provides the ability to determine right and wrong without the influence of religion. So Bogus's belief that individuals may not be able to figure out right from wrong without religion may be true.
 
What is troubling is the notion that adults can't establish right or wrong without it being based upon religion.

That said it may be true that mankind has not evolved to a point of intellectual maturity that provides the ability to determine right and wrong without the influence of religion. So Bogus's belief that individuals may not be able to figure out right from wrong without religion may be true.

Yes, the notion is troubling. I disagree that mankind may have not evolved the maturity and ability to determine what is right and wrong. Inherent chaos seems to be an integral part of humanity which goes to explain why we still have crime and injustice.
 
apparently faith/religion is needed or it would have gone away with the fabulous invention of the internet... allowing everyone to learn the truth about how God destroys lives, causes war, male pattern baldness.... ;)


are you guys even paying attention? Have you SEEN what happens when people TRY to think on their own and devise right and wrong? not working well. not working well at all
 
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and she can take it anyway you want to give it to her... nothing to go wrong if there is no god... this could be fun.. I suppose that "right and wrong" also are just a matter of personal preference? or who establishes what we are supposed to think there?

And you may want to include your Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish and just about every other faith in your "Do or Die" attack... they all use the same incentive.. except for the Muslims, they use human grenades to push their message to the infidels...

btw, that billboard could have easily been put up by Christians... (the non lion food ones)

I think extremist muslims use human gernades, then you wouldn't be lumping the good in with the bad...
 
are you guys even paying attention? Have you SEEN what happens when people TRY to think on their own and devise right and wrong? not working well. not working well at all

Yes, wonderful things like internet p0rn are made available to the masses without guilt, contempt or hell and brimfire.
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are you guys even paying attention? Have you SEEN what happens when people TRY to think on their own and devise right and wrong? not working well. not working well at all

Oh, you mean like trying to ensure everyone has the same rights to live their lives peacefully and not forcing them to conform to the majority's notion of "normal"?
 
I believe in God. Been happy and enjoying life for close to half a century. My spiritual upbringing is my compass for right and wrong, however I fall short from time to time, but that's alright because Christ paid for that a couple thousand years ago. My God is a God of love that is very excepting and forgiving.
 
It doesn't take a religion to establish what is right and wrong. Nor should it take the wrath of a god to control people.

Why is it so important for some person or organization to establish what we should think? People are capable of thinking for themselves if they are not brainwashed into blind faith.

They are included; the billboard did not specify a particular brand of god.

Just like radical Christians bomb abortion clinics or how Radical/Politicised Christians perform ethnic cleansing in war.

This one sounds a little illogical.

apparently faith/religion is needed or it would have gone away with the fabulous invention of the internet... allowing everyone to learn the truth about how God destroys lives, causes war, male pattern baldness.... ;)


are you guys even paying attention? Have you SEEN what happens when people TRY to think on their own and devise right and wrong? not working well. not working well at all

This was my point about the state of our evolution as a species. We are not to the point that we can determine right from wrong without the notion of a reward.

Oh, you mean like trying to ensure everyone has the same rights to live their lives peacefully and not forcing them to conform to the majoity's notion of "normal"?

Where have you been hiding? You should be more vocal with your voice of reason?
 
This was my point about the state of our evolution as a species. We are not to the point that we can determine right from wrong without the notion of a reward.

Where have you been hiding? You should be more vocal with your voice of reason?

I would be willing to concede that a good part of the population needs reward/punishment to act "right". I will go further that religion has been an efficient way to push the message. However, religion is not the only way that this can be accomplished. The trouble is that religions program people with a lot of fluff and fantasy in order to keep them as captive paying customers.
 
Yes, the notion is troubling. I disagree that mankind may have not evolved the maturity and ability to determine what is right and wrong. Inherent chaos seems to be an integral part of humanity which goes to explain why we still have crime and injustice.
That would be by your standard... just as cannibalism was perfectly normal for many tribes until they were "re-educated" by the outside world.. your chaos may be nothing to someone else.. Just like "crime and injustice" is only in YOUR opinion... What I do may not be unjust or a crime in my eyes... who sets the standards?

I think organized religion is for sheep myself... worse things that have ever happened to me were by the "righteous few" I have my own barometer of what is right and wrong.. not sure who put it in there but be glad it was not say some renegade skin heads when i was little..
 
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