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I read something that said ICE are far more likely to catch fire than an EV....
In the same article it stated the EV is much harder to extinguish and the thermal combustion is far greater causing more damage to the vehicle and surrounding area.
All the ICE fires I know about are because of an accident or an older vehicle which has been modified. Not all EV catch fire because of accidents but a few have caught fire on their own well after the accident.
I've seen a lot of videos of HD livewires catching fire while being ridden or parked.
EV Fires: Less Common But More Problematic?
IDTechEx Research Article: Fires in electric vehicles (EVs) certainly gain a lot of media attention in comparison to their internal combustion engine (ICE) counterparts. But a crucial question for the future of mobility is whether EVs are actually any more likely to catch fire than an ICE...
www.idtechex.com
TallTom
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Sure.
Show us links that show any of the ICE requiring 36,000 gallons of water to extinguish? Any that show that $6,000 blankets needing to be purchased in quantities to prepare cities for these fires? Any of them needing to be hauled off and isolated from other combustible items once extinguished? Link any of them becoming uninsurable due to risk of these fires? Links to show the ICE owners being told they should be parked outside of the garage and away from the house because of fire risk? Links to show us that after purchasing an ICE you then have to spend thousands to allow you to refuel it at home. Thereby increasing the risk of fire.
When you're done with fire comparisons. Then link some examples of any rental car agency that have lost an average of $12,250 per ICE vehicle used in their business model.
michael parris heuberger
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Hi. I liked it.
Debatable.
You can’t extinguish an EV battery thermal runaway or fire. Despite what all the smart folks on the internet tell you about “extinguishing” it.
You can only contain it, so it does not spread further, until such time as there are no further electrons on the move between cathode and anode.
Tesla seem to have managed on their later models to contain runaway within a single few cells, so this is no longer an issue with new Teslas.
Gasoline is highly flammable, bad news.
Do a Google on EV fires versus gasoline vehicle fires per capita and you will see that an ICE vehicle has a much higher incidence of catching on fire.
TallTom
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I see. So that ends your desire to engage in link challenges? You could present that link to support your statement, but according to you, information found in links aren't being presented by smart people.
TallTom
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There is info missing here. I don't see a Tesla. I see a car. With a person telling us it is. Although a car on fire under water isn't going to be an ICE.
Jelly will present us evidence that Teslas no longer have a problem with battery fires. So this can't be a Tesla. This video has to be fake.
Bee you should have learned by now that a $102K Cyber truck, which is all wheel drive, has been filmed stuck in snow in a driveway. And pulling a car on a trailer on flat and level ground. For an 1/8th mile. But we also have a video of an unloaded Cybertruck, not towing anything, managing to drive on an ocean shoreline for a 1 minute clip, and it didn't catch fire once. Meant to show us Teslas are fine products.
Now we have what is supposed to be an SUV Model X being used as what would be expected of a typical SUV, towing the family boat, catch on fire doing a simple SUV task.
And none of the smart people can understand why people are reluctant to own an EV.
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Maybe it's an older Tesla? You know, you might not want to refer to levels of intelligence so often.
There is your link, you happy now?
So, if you can do a bit of math (which I doubt) an EV is about 6,000% less likely to catch fire compared to a ICE vehicle.
Suggested you google this, but must have been a bit to complicated for you?
Sorry Bee, I did not use the word "intelligence" but on the other hand I did not need to.
Electric Vehicles in Focus, Part III: Electric Vehicle Fire Risk
Electric vehicles appear to be less of a fire risk than conventional vehicles, but they may still introduce novel hazards to people and property.
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Why are you dragging me into this as well?
Intelligence is a perceived idea anyway.....
I certainly don't equate intelligence to formal education...some of the smartest people I have ever known only had a grade school education.
I was referring to TallTom twice mentioning the "slower ones" as if he has some high level of intelligence others don't. I agree intelligence and book smart are different, although I don't think intelligence is perceived, it's a measurable capacity to comprehend.
It's perceived by other individuals....
For instance a person might look at another and think that person is not intelligent......that's without knowing anything about the other person...
I know I don't carry around my diplomas or aptitude test scores with me.
Institutions have the capacity to measure a person's academic intelligence but not the general public....
In my former profession and position 1 in 50 people who screened were inducted into the unit....physical fitness, mental prowess and intelligence were all tested. The ones that weren't smart were weened out quickly enough....
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I plead guilty.
Just trying to keep your thread entertaining.
When we read between the lines of many posts here in this thread, the correlation between perceived ego and IQ gets interesting.
It’s been a while since I have been to the Toyota factory in Nagoya Japan, 1995. PhD starts same job as high school kid, but if he can use his skills and knowledge as an advantage, he gets promoted. Reward is by merit only, nothing else counts.
Personally, I’m not the kind of person who will tell a dentist how to do a root canal. I respect his academic and practical experience. Each of us have some talents and skills in certain areas which are above average and then there are other things we don’t know too much about.
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Remember the first batch of Samsung phones. They caught fire randomly. Seems history though, we don’t hear that any longer.
I guess it is part of developing and learning.
I’m wonder how long before space exploration hits a Starlink satellite with every occasional launch.
I'm surprised anything can make it into orbit or beyond safely with all the space junk up there...
You spend enough time listening to or reading someone's thoughts and it doesn't take long to gage the ability to critically think.
Critically thinking, intelligence and being smart are all separate things in my opinion...
Critical thinking can be a learned thing......we see people who absolutely embrace each and every conspiracy theory and regurgitate that narrative yet are intelligent and smart....lots of very smart people fell into the Jeffery Dahmer cult for instance...
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