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[Bumblebee]

That's what you share with us about your dad? When you shake your head, do you hear rattling sounds?

I was kind of hoping it was some sort of metaphor........

When I was young I did hear of some farmers throwing a bag of kittens in the river.......sure didn't happen at our house.

But I do remember my sister and I sitting by the river looking for bags.....I think I was 6 or so at the time....

 

[Oz22]

That's what you share with us about your dad? When you shake your head, do you hear rattling sounds?

Well at least I had a father I could point to, not just a bar that my mother visited every Friday night.

 

[Oz22]

I was kind of hoping it was some sort of metaphor........

That's pretty soft for a bloke that used to shoot people in the head for a living, don't you think?

 

[Red05]

That's pretty soft for a bloke that used to shoot people in the head for a living, don't you think?

The politics section has always had altercations and vehement disagreements, but then you came along with your racist remarks and utter lack of ethical or moral code in an effort to degrade it. I doubt you'll apologize to Bee, and I also doubt he cares, considering the source. We've seen them come and go and you going will be a welcome occurrence.

 

[Oz22]

The politics section has always had altercations and vehement disagreements, but then you came along with your racist remarks and utter lack of ethical or moral code in an effort to degrade it. I doubt you'll apologize to Bee, and I also doubt he cares, considering the source. We've seen them come and go and you going will be a welcome occurrence.

Well for starters this isn't a political thread, and for seconds, since when did BB need you to answer for him? You're just an angry little unit red, and I have dealt with many of such on forums over the years. You're basic problem though is compounded by the insanity in your culture, it's driven you to the edge, all the obsession with racism and genderism and wokeism, and now the TDS you suffer from. Well the rest of the World is here on the forum too and we don't ascribe to your madness. So bring on your denigration, it's water off a ducks back.

 

[Bumblebee]

That's pretty soft for a bloke that used to shoot people in the head for a living, don't you think?

....and doing that caused me a lot of nightmares and years of therapy.........and we were trained for "center of mass" although we had t change our tactics due to body armor....

But I do hear you as in our parent's generation, doing this to unwanted puppies and kittens was considered normal......it's not something that is normally spoken of these days though.

 

[Oz22]

....and doing that caused me a lot of nightmares and years of therapy.........and we were trained for "center of mass" although we had t change our tactics due to body armor....

But I do hear you as in our parent's generation, doing this to unwanted puppies and kittens was considered normal......it's not something that is normally spoken of these days though.

Yes I could well imagine, not many people can kill on the battle field with detachment I believe, it's a real minority. I hope you've full moved past that now.

The drowning of newborn cats was never considered cruel as it was done just as they came out or soon after. It's no different to my mind than to what pigeon breeders do when they snap a birds neck. But the practice was stopped, many years ago. Now Australia has roughly 5 million feral cats running around out there because people took up the habit of simply dumping them on the side of the road. They kill over 1.5 billion native mammals, birds, reptiles and frogs, and 1.1 billion invertebrates each year.

I think my father had the right idea, but then unlike many men today, he never struggled to decide whether he should be wearing pants or a dress

 

[Oz22]

Back in 1992...

Australian army snipers have been waging war on the country's wild cats.

Ten snipers shot 420 feral cats in a recent three-day exercise along the Diamantina River 808 miles west of Brisbane, said Environment Minister Pat Comben. The culling was ordered because a plague of wild cats, some weighing up to 17 pounds, is threatening the bilby, a small endangered rabbit-eared bandicoot. Its numbers are down to an estimated 2,000 throughout Australia.
"There's no doubt the cats would have munched their way through the Diamantina bilbies," said Comben.
The cats are the descendants of domestic pets that escaped into the wild.

AUSTRALIAN SNIPERS FELL 420 FERAL CATS

Australian army snipers have been waging war on the country's wild cats. Ten snipers shot 420 feral cats in a recent three-day exercise along the Diamantina River 808 miles west of Brisbane, said Environment Minister Pat Comben.

www.deseret.com

That's not politically correct now either. The current solution? Do nothing. The problem is as bad as the feral pig problem over in the US.

 

[Bumblebee]

Back in 1992...


That's not politically correct now either. The current solution? Do nothing. The problem is as bad as the feral pig problem over in the US.

When I was in Cyprus, we had squads going around hunting feral dogs and cats that were descended from all the pets turned loose during the war....

We were issued shotguns and had zones we were allowed to operate in as both the Turks and Greeks had to agree on where we were operating.....

I watched a TV program about the feral hog hunters....they were using night vision to hunt them......

And there are shows on hunting feral pythons in Florida....it's created an industry.....

 

[Bumblebee]

Yes I could well imagine, not many people can kill on the battle field with detachment I believe, it's a real minority. I hope you've full moved past that now.

It took years of therapy but I am much better now....at least I'm sleeping and all without any medication.....

When I was serving we often had periodic psychological evaluations but had scheduled ones after some ops......of course there was a big stigma on mental health so honestly, most of us blew threw the evaluations knowing pretty much what they wanted to hear....

Some of my former colleagues that didn't get any help either killed themselves or turned to booze and drugs.....and some of these people were very dangerous individuals.....

 

[Oz22]

Some of my former colleagues that didn't get any help either killed themselves or turned to booze and drugs.....and some of these people were very dangerous individuals.....

I would imagine it's different too when you're fighting an enemy far away rather than one who was invaded your own nation. there must be questions of validity, of the necessity of it all. I'm thinking of that woman who pitched her tent outside George Bush's place and demanded to know why he died if he wasn't over there because of WMD. A lot of unanswered questions that were never asked when say the Japanese attacked Pearl harbor.

 

[Oz22]

Trump executive order halts $5 billion meant for EV stations​

ww.deseret.com/politics/2025/02/07/trump-executive-order-electric-vehicle-stations/

hardly matters since next to none were ever built in the two years since the money was allocated. It all went to the ukraine, and then to buy London mansions for zelinskee and the Generals

But it's interesting to note that the last government over in the US had given up on the EV itself, even while it continued to promote it! The poor old consumer is always the last to find out. A big White Elephant

 

[Bumblebee]

I would imagine it's different too when you're fighting an enemy far away rather than one who was invaded your own nation. there must be questions of validity, of the necessity of it all. I'm thinking of that woman who pitched her tent outside George Bush's place and demanded to know why he died if he wasn't over there because of WMD. A lot of unanswered questions that were never asked when say the Japanese attacked Pearl harbor.

It makes no difference to a soldier where we fight.....we go where we are told and do the mission we are given....knowing we are to abide by the laws of armed conflict at all times.

We 100% believed in what we were doing, we are a volunteer military and we all signed the dotted line to serve our country in whatever capacity we were called to do....in the unit I was in, we took it a step further and had to undergo selection to get into the unit and there was an 80% failure rate......so the people who made it were committed to our mandate.

What was hard was transitioning from warfighter to civilian.....most can do it, some can't....

 

[Oz22]

What was hard was transitioning from warfighter to civilian.....most can do it, some can't....

I can only imagine. Glad I never went into the forces myself.

 

[Bumblebee]

I can only imagine. Glad I never went into the forces myself.

Honestly it was the best thing I did......

I spent my time and was able to retire in relatively good health and financially stable.....

Many of my peers that I went to school with and who balked at me joining the military are still working and chasing their tails....

 

[TallTom]

Honestly it was the best thing I did......

I spent my time and was able to retire in relatively good health and financially stable.....

Many of my peers that I went to school with and who balked at me joining the military are still working and chasing their tails....

This pretty well sums it up. I could have stayed in. They were offering huge re-enlistment bonuses for my specialities. I moved on. But several stayed in. They retired very well situated in their early 40s to early 50s. The military is very underrated profession by too many.

 

[Bumblebee]

This pretty well sums it up. I could have stayed in. They were offering huge re-enlistment bonuses for my specialities. I moved on. But several stayed in. They retired very well situated in their early 40s to early 50s. The military is very underrated profession by too many.

The way I look at it is......many jobs and professions have their good and bad aspects......what I did in the military was a little extreme but still had it's good and bad times.....mostly good interrupted by really bad......but the after service support is great...

I had a younger former soldier complaining about our veteran's affairs....I reminded him that if he worked for a steel manufacturer or other arduous, hard labor organization, when he left, he would be shown the door and forgotten.....at least we have an organization like veteran's affairs that looks after us when we are released whether we were deployed or not....

I'm sure the returning vets of WW1, 2 or Korea would have loved to have such an organization to look after them many of which were deployed for years and not months......

 

[Bumblebee]

Back on EV.....I was out walking this morning and noted a flat bed loading a Hyundai EV up......I know the owner and he said it went into some sort of diagnostic mode yesterday and never came out of it....he called Hyundai and they said it would be better that they bring it in as it would have to be hooked up to the "big brain."

He's pretty happy with it otherwise.....but has only had it a couple months so far...

They also have an older ICE Hyundai that he plans on trading for a hybrid at Hyundai...he's just not sure which one yet...

 

[Oz22]

He's pretty happy with it otherwise.....but has only had it a couple months so far...

I've noticed that about EV drivers, posting online, I don't know any personally. They seem happy to accept breakdowns as part and parcel of being a sort of beta tester for the vehicles. Like all those ktm and other euro bike owners who think it's normal for their bike to fail from time to time and have to spend a week in the shop. I wonder about this, is it because they are just young and have no experience with the reliability we grew up with? Or is it some sort of psychological defense against those that think the EV is not a viable replacement for the conventional car. A sort of Ego protection mode they go into? Motorcycle sales make up a small but increasing fraction of consumer transport in many nations, especially Asia. But how many are EV?

July 2024 Global Electric Motorcycles Industry Reaches 10 Million Annual Sales​

They usually show a picture like this

But the vast majority are actually these.

And they make good sense too, in the cities where the major sales are.
The global electric two-wheeler market, which includes both scooters and motorcycles

China remains the dominant player in the global electric two-wheeler market, accounting for more than 80% of the total sales.
India has emerged as the second-largest market, over 900,000 units sold.
Vietnam ranks third, with 250,000 units sold

But here in the West? *Crickets* They never took off.
ww.motorcyclesdata.com/2024/07/12/electric-motorcycles-market/

Speaking as a motorcycle enthusiast I can see why they never took off. Too inconvenient basically. I want to get on and ride, and if I'm low on Gas I'll throw some in before I go or stop at one of the many servos around on my travels. I couldn't count the times I headed down the highway for a short ride then just got caught up in the fun and ended up 150km away. "We'll stop at the Roadhouse past the Cunningham's Gap and fill up there" True Freedom!

 

[Red05]

I've noticed that about EV drivers, posting online, I don't know any personally. They seem happy to accept breakdowns as part and parcel of being a sort of beta tester

True, charging an EV is not as convenient as pouring 16 gallons into an ICE fuel tank, but dependability wise, the EVs are better. Much fewer moving parts and the transmissions are much simpler. We sold quite a few Cadillac Lyriqs and nary a warranty problem. Can't say that about Buick, GMC or Cadillac ICE vehicles, even though the last couple of years they're much improved. Talk about a superb highway car, the Lyriq actually feels like you're floating.