Eventually, I’ll be right...

[hayabuser]

Classic example of victim blaming. Using that logic if a woman wearing a short skirt gets raped it's her own fault. The only fact germane to Floyd's death is the fact that Chauvin's actions caused it.
It's the 21st century, come on out of the dark ages and join the rest of us. You know we discovered the world isn't flat as well?

Except that wearing a short skirt isn't illegal. Controlled drugs, counterfeit money and assaulting police officers all are.

Gah, I promised myself I wouldn't get involved.

 

[Mr Brown]

It's quite the stretch to claim a career felon is a victim, a career felon who at one point robbed and threatened to kill a pregnant woman. My point was that if Floyd hadn't made very poor decisions that put himself in that situation he would still be alive.

You obviously didn't read the last line of my earlier reply.

As for me,, I'm done wasting my time with this thread. I'll continue to look up to and idolize people who contribute and build society and you can keep looking up to the thugs and felon's who tear it down.

Of course I read the last line of your post, it's the only line which is sensible.
Yes, a person who is the victim of an unlawful death is a victim. Irrespective of what they've done. Just because you or I don't like a person doesn't give us the right to kill them. That's why we have the rule of law....
But more to your point, people can't change? People who have committed crimes should be cast aside and cannot become victims of crimes, even murder? That's a patently ridiculous position to take.
Nowhere do I say that I look up to people who are tearing society down, you arrived at that conclusion all by yourself, and unsurprisingly it's wrong. Your point is also wrong. If Chauvin hadn't kneeled on Floyd's neck for 8 minutes he would still be alive. That's what killed him. He didn't die as a result of decisions he made years earlier in a different state, and you know it. Stop insulting people's intelligence.

 

[Mr Brown]

I think his logic is more like. Take out wearing a short skirt and insert. Was naked sitting on a glory hole.

There's a joke in there somewhere....

 

[Mr Brown]

Except that wearing a short skirt isn't illegal. Controlled drugs, counterfeit money and assaulting police officers all are.

Gah, I promised myself I wouldn't get involved.

Even if your logic was sound (it isn't) and Floyd was guilty of all three (we can't know, he's dead) the punishment for any and all of those crimes isn't death.

 

[Mathewrussell52]

There's a joke in there somewhere....

I kinda thought it was funny. And figured if we were making a comparison on how someone must think I could make one also.

But if I was guessing I bet @FlatlandBusa would think mine is more accurate.

 

[Mathewrussell52]

Even if your logic was sound (it isn't) and Floyd was guilty of all three (we can't know, he's dead) the punishment for any and all of those crimes isn't death.

Agreed. But don’t think anyone said that should be the result.

 

[Mr Brown]

I kinda thought it was funny. And figured if we were making a comparison on how someone must think I could make one also.

But if I was guessing I bet @FlatlandBusa would think mine is more accurate.

I'd say he probably would.

 

[Mr Brown]

Agreed. But don’t think anyone said that should be the result.

But it was the result, which is precisely my point.
In searching for justification people are tacitly making the argument that his death was acceptable.

 

[Bumblebee]

Whatever Mr Floyd did that day could have been covered by a notice to appear...if he didn't appear, a warrant would have been issued...there was no real need to take him into custody at all.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

All this rioting and destruction of cities is no longer about George Floyd. It is now about changing our country to socialism/communism. Also the Dems love it and Covid19 because it makes things look bad in our country now and they think that will help them win in November. They work hard on dividing us.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=306841324014994

Manoman! The Dems don’t “love COVID-19” for (any) reason. What a preposterous thing to say. The division in our country is bolstered by trump every time he opens his mouth. Any reasonable person can see that. And “rioting and destruction of cities” is about changing our country to socialism/communisom”? You sound like Joe McCarthy from the 50s. Are you a member of the RNC by chance?

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Let's look at some facts that lead to Floyd's unfortunate passing.

Fact: If he hadn't used illegal drugs he would be alive.
Fact: If he hadn't passed counterfeit money he would be alive.
Fact: If he had fought with the officers he would be alive.
The officer leaning on his neck is inexcusable, and all the officers involved are going to be held accountable by the justice system.

Facts my behind!

BS fact #1- No one can say that because there’s no evidence that (but for) Chauvin’s actions, he would’ve just died anyway.

BS fact2-He was (suspected) of passing phony money. Nobody wearing a badge should be judging whether or not he’s guilty. And, if he passed a bad 20, why was he still sitting across the street from the shop? (If) he passed it, did he even know it was phony? I’ve had bad money given to me in change a couple times and the cashier wasn’t aware of it until I showed him and her how it was phony. I didn’t put my knee in their back though...If you had any idea how low this type of crime is to a street cop, you’d crack up laughing. Felony yes, charged as a misdemeanor yes, (always) if charged at all because proving he knew it was phony is absolutely key in obtaining a conviction for such a minor offense. Cite and release or booked and released.

BS fact3-I didn’t see him fighting with anyone. Where did you?

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

I think I get what you're saying. Its sort of like they took Dylann Roof to burger king after he gunned down 9 black worshipers at a SC church. Passing a $20, knee lynching. Kill 9 blacks, whopper.

Ain‘t that the GD truth!

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

The police have a duty to protect-that includes criminals. This career felon had a right to not die that day-he was handcuffed and immobilized and at the mercy of a person who was supposed to be looking after him.

The same thing happens to POWs-one minute they are trying to kill you, the next you are looking after their wounds and protecting them.

In the big scope of things you are correct-if he had been a law abiding citizen, the chances of him having police contact would have been minimal. Similar to anyone on this board riding their bike at the speed limit therefore we would probably have little police contact...how many people who own a bike like ours does this I wonder?????

Damn right! The instant a suspect is in police custody they’re absolutely responsible for his safety. After all, our country is in part based on our right to Due Process, innocent until proven otherwise. Responding street cops don’t have instant knowledge of a person‘s Rap sheet when they make first contact with him. His ‘offense’ was minor enough and his behavior was calm enough for him to be walked to the sidewalk to sit down while further investigation proceeded.

 

[08BusaKY]

No, that makes you a Smurf.....

That gave me a laugh this morning!

 

[08BusaKY]

Manoman! The Dems don’t “love COVID-19” for (any) reason. What a preposterous thing to say. The division in our country is bolstered by trump every time he opens his mouth. Any reasonable person can see that. And “rioting and destruction of cities” is about changing our country to socialism/communisom”? You sound like Joe McCarthy from the 50s. Are you a member of the RNC by chance?

The Dems are using it to hurt businesses and make people reliant on the government. This is how they want to move us toward Socialism. Then they want to make DC a state and get rid of the Filibuster so they can remain in power if they win in November. The Dems destroying Democrat run cities and wanting to kill police are not reasonable.

 

[08BusaKY]

Well I felt obligated to respond only because I never have. My opinions of Trump are based on a lot of analysis and looking at pretty easy to find facts, so writing that was an easy thing off the top of my head. Actually take the time to research Trump and you will not be a supporter. He is a scarily incompetent dude my brother.

So anyway, keep the faith brother. Its going to be pretty hard over the next few weeks and you are going to be hiding the fact that you supported him when this is all done.

Trump has also created Opportunity Zones, Prison Reform which mostly benefit minorities. Also he pulled us out of the Climate Accord and the TTP (Gore said parts of NY would be cover in water by now). Now about a year ago AOC said we only have 12 years left...lol. I guess 11 now.

He made countries pay their share for defense. He made the UN countries pay their share as well.

About hiding the fact I supported Trump. I took heat because I voted for Obama only the first time. If the Dems win about 10 years from now when the country is completely down the drain. It is Trump that will be remembered as the last chance for America as we know it.

I would not be surprised if there is a genocide against white people starting with Trump supporters because that is how the Dems roll. Then depending on what makes up the majority after all the people pour in from other countries once we have open boarders it will spread to some of the people who supported the Dems brain dead nominee.

You will vote for the person below who is responsible for the incarceration of minorities.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=293549191861696

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=600141723977375

 

[fallenarch]

Trump has also created Opportunity Zones, Prison Reform which mostly benefit minorities. Also he pulled us out of the Climate Accord and the TTP (Gore said parts of NY would be cover in water by now). Now about a year ago AOC said we only have 12 years left...lol. I guess 11 now.

He made countries pay their share for defense. He made the UN countries pay their share as well.

About hiding the fact I supported Trump. I took heat because I voted for Obama only the first time. If the Dems win about 10 years from now when the country is completely down the drain. It is Trump that will be remembered as the last chance for America as we know it.

I would not be surprised if there is a genocide against white people starting with Trump supporters because that is how the Dems roll. Then depending on what makes up the majority after all the people pour in from other countries once we have open boarders it will spread to some of the people who supported the Dems brain dead nominee.

You will vote for the person below who is responsible for the incarceration of minorities.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=293549191861696

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=600141723977375

My father has dementia. At first I would correct his dillusional ramblings but his doctor told me to just play along. There is no rational reason to vote for a second Trump term, only irrational ones.

 

[Mr Brown]

That gave me a laugh this morning!

Good!

 

[xc700]

joe Biden has been in Washington for over 40 years and 8 of them years he was second in command with Obama you would think that he would have straighten out the united states problems long before trump showed up. you know what is saddest part about Biden and trump that are running to be our 2020 president that these are the only people we have qualified to run the united states? we need to treat our politicians like the military is treated that you give them a medal and then boot there ass out the door.

 

[08BusaKY]

My father has dementia. At first I would correct his dillusional ramblings but his doctor told me to just play along. There is no rational reason to vote for a second Trump term, only irrational ones.

So if Trump was mentally incompetent like Biden the Democrats would play along? They would want him taken out of office immediately. For Dems it all rides on the VP pick. They know Biden will not last the first term.

Yesterday Trump just signed an executive order to reduce prescription costs too.

I think there may be a civil war coming if the Dems win and continue the madness they are allowing to go on in the Dem cities now. I know many are prepared for it across the nation. Trump supporters are not just white there are a lot of minorities for Trump too. Especially when they see what is going on now. Also the police and military would be on the right side since they are hated by the Dems.

One can't even put a Trump bumper sticker or hat on these day without their cars being vandalized and them being attacked. Even kids have been attacked for wearing one. I saw a lot of Obama stickers back in 2012 but Republican are more civilized until pushed in a corner. I have never seen anything like this. You are supposed to be able to vote for who you want without facing intimidation from the left.

I'm out for the rest of the day so...