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jellyrug said:
He shoots a good video, but as per previous posts, I have my doubts about "professional tuners"

Takes power away with dropping two teeth on the back sprocket, is technically incorrect. We cannot add or remove power with sprocket changes.

Removing the back brake, ceramic bearings, sprocket change and after all that the bike is a bit slower than before.

Then there is Brock, with motors blowing up using only his exhaust and his upgraded ECU map. LOL, plus grinding brake pads with an angle grinder.
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Don't know really, I do know these professional tuners know more about setting up a bike than I do...

Most of them have quite a bit of seat time and know how to squeeze quite a bit of extra power out of these bikes....

Gearing is the key-way to racing, it is as important as good tires...I don't know about adding or removing power by gearing but you can put the power right where you need it by proper gearing.

If a racer shows up at a track (drag or road-race) and their gearing isn't spot on, they might as well stay in the pit row.
 
Bumblebee said:
Don't know really, I do know these professional tuners know more about setting up a bike than I do...

Most of them have quite a bit of seat time and know how to squeeze quite a bit of extra power out of these bikes....

Gearing is the key-way to racing, it is as important as good tires...I don't know about adding or removing power by gearing but you can put the power right where you need it by proper gearing.

If a racer shows up at a track (drag or road-race) and their gearing isn't spot on, they might as well stay in the pit row.
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From experience, I would expect Suzuki factory to do what we use to do.
To save time and money, first there is an academic approach, using proven empirical information. Then it goes into building followed by testing. If the result is not what was expected, the process is refined and pencils are sharpened.

Yes, gearing is absolutely important, try taking off in 6th gear and see what happens. That is common sense. The torque and power curve as measured on the back wheel proportional to engine rpm can be shifted, but it is not possible to add or remove power with gearing. If we want to split hairs, then Chris actually added a tiny bit of negligible power to the back wheel by going down two teeth, rather than remove power. More so than what he would have gained with ceramic bearings. Both being absolutely negligible.

These guys throw stuff against the wall, sometimes it sticks, sometimes it does not.

Sometimes, they blow a motor, most times they just reduce reliability.
 
jellyrug said:
From experience, I would expect Suzuki factory to do what we use to do.
To save time and money, first there is an academic approach, using proven empirical information. Then it goes into building followed by testing. If the result is not what was expected, the process is refined and pencils are sharpened.

Yes, gearing is absolutely important, try taking off in 6th gear and see what happens. That is common sense. The torque and power curve as measured on the back wheel proportional to engine rpm can be shifted, but it is not possible to add or remove power with gearing. If we want to split hairs, then Chris actually added a tiny bit of negligible power to the back wheel by going down two teeth, rather than remove power. More so than what he would have gained with ceramic bearings. Both being absolutely negligible.

These guys throw stuff against the wall, sometimes it sticks, sometimes it does not.

Sometimes, they blow a motor, most times they just reduce reliability.
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What did Suzuki factory do that we used to do?

Suzuki made a basic platform knowing full well there would be people tuning and modifying it from the box...

When I was racing I was able to tap into the Suzuki pit team and they had bins of sprockets, chains and jet kits...each track had a certain sprocket combination which worked.

I'm not a drag racer but was taught how to launch a race bike and if you watch the video, Chris wanted to dull down the power to the back tire by dropping teeth so it wouldn't launch as hard....

People on this forum are playing with their gearing all the time to get different results, to get a harder launch go up teeth, to get a higher top end speed and softer launch, go down teeth...

I have faith in them and trust in what they do, sometimes doing it is trial and error but that's what makes a good tuner...there were times when people had to trust their lives to what I was doing and I never let them down..
 
Bumblebee mower right there...

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jellyrug said:
He shoots a good video, but as per previous posts, I have my doubts about "professional tuners"

Takes power away with dropping two teeth on the back sprocket, is technically incorrect. We cannot add or remove power with sprocket changes.

Removing the back brake, ceramic bearings, sprocket change and after all that the bike is a bit slower than before.

Then there is Brock, with motors blowing up using only his exhaust and his upgraded ECU map. LOL, plus grinding brake pads with an angle grinder.
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What are you talking about?
 
Hayabusa_1116 said:
anyone who took delivery of the pre ordered Busa in the US, can you confirm if the jacket and the seat cowl are given at the same time you collected the vehicle? or are they mailed to your house.
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Seat cowl 2 to 3 weeks after registration suzuki informed me they send them to your dealer then dealer sends it to you and for plaque about 4 to 6 weeks and jacket is about 8 weeks...
 
JeffSyh said:
Whats the launch control like?
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3 settings

lowest setting is 4500 I think — useless.
middle setting is 6500 I think — bogs pretty bad
high setting is 8500 - wheelies like a bitch. Might work with the wheelie bar, but likely will go to the high rev limit at that point.

Having used a real 2 step to launch, it needs more adjustability to be useful. In the end I think its a sales gimmick.

I like the wheelie control on the street though. In the lowest setting 1 it lets it lift the wheel an inch or 2 in first gear.

But for racing I think everyone is going to turn the electronics off to get the most out of the bike.
 
Just off the phone with a buddy of mine, he was looking for a gen 3 Hayabusa and went to the Suzuki dealer in Ottawa...he was told it could be end August or early Sept before he could get one....

He rides a '20 CBR1000RR now and he said he is tired of it and wanted to get a less demanding bike to ride but still wanted a sport bike...

He went over to the Kawasaki dealership and they have a '20 ZX14R and 2 H2 SX SEs....he said he wasn't sure if he should wait for a Hayabusa or go for one of the Kawasakis....

I told him to wait and get the better bike. He never used to have patience...hopefully he found some.
 
Hayabusa_1116 said:
anyone who took delivery of the pre ordered Busa in the US, can you confirm if the jacket and the seat cowl are given at the same time you collected the vehicle? or are they mailed to your house.
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I was told that the rear seat cowl and the jacket would arrive at a later date, however when i took delivery, I was told that parts had received 3 cowlings, one of each color and was given the option of taking delivery with the cowling they had in stock and once mine came in they would keep it, no brainer for me.....lol

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Bumblebee said:
Just off the phone with a buddy of mine, he was looking for a gen 3 Hayabusa and went to the Suzuki dealer in Ottawa...he was told it could be end August or early Sept before he could get one....

He rides a '20 CBR1000RR now and he said he is tired of it and wanted to get a less demanding bike to ride but still wanted a sport bike...

He went over to the Kawasaki dealership and they have a '20 ZX14R and 2 H2 SX SEs....he said he wasn't sure if he should wait for a Hayabusa or go for one of the Kawasakis....

I told him to wait and get the better bike. He never used to have patience...hopefully he found some.
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I’d say the H2 SX SE is a far better bike but each to their own.
 
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