Guilty on all counts

[TallTom]

A guy that I've known for well over 40 years and ran his own business for over 30 years came down with a debilitating muscular disease and can't work anymore. He's in his mid 60's and is now on SS disability. For years, every time I'd stop by his business he was sitting at his desk listening to rush limbaugh. He was a total manly man and didn't need any help from the government...until he did.

I have no idea if he is still a right winger but will say that life has a way of educating those that don't even want to be educated. Living off the public dole now.

Food stamps? Maybe we should let those people starve. And if the can't make enough money cleaning toilets to afford a place to live, they should live on the streets?

I can't imagine how some of the people like zerk can sleep at night and kind of hope that they some day find themselves in the same situation as my old friend. I'm glad to see that you get it though.

"that which you do for the least of man, you do for me" or some bible verse like that comes to mind.

So let's review this. He paid into the social security system his govt collected for decades. As well as paying income and payroll taxes for any employees he may have had. And then he becomes disabled after those decades, and you feel he shouldn't be able to get the benefits his govt agrees he's entitled to collect?

Who, if not him, do you feel should be able to collect this benefit? He didn't ask to be taxed. Nor to become disabled.

Food stamps. Sorely needed by some. As is welfare. Why shouldn't they continue to clean toilets? It's a well needed service that can help give back for the social services they are receiving. If people not on welfare or food stamps can work cleaning toilets, so can they.

 

[Zerks]

Did you get this conspiracy theory from alex jones? It sounds like something he would say and I gotta believe that you hang on his every word. And you forgot to mention trumps lies. The one about liberals tearing healthy babies from their mothers wombs and killing them. Liberals all eat babies for breakfast, don't you know?

I watched some of that mainstream media news today on network television and all they talked about was how poorly Biden did but somehow forgot to mention how trump lied the whole way through and mostly avoided answering the moderators questions in favor of attacking Biden.

During trumps tenure, I saw our national debt balloon and the same conservatives that were all in Obama's poop for the national debt didn't have a problem with it, even as a huge share of it went to tax cuts for billionaires.

During Bidens tenure we have seen roads and bridges being repaired and internet coming to places that didn't have high speed internet, among many other things that benefit everyone. I don't remember any multi trillion dollar tax cuts for billionaires. I hope they can survive.

I will be voting for Biden or whoever takes his place because I don't like the idea of the USA slipping further into fascism and trump is a fast track to that.

We are so screwed.

Let us know when you wake up to reality.

The debate if you could call it that was all we needed to see what derelict politician does before leaving office. As far as Trump goes, he understands business, he understands foreign policy, he understands the USA petro dollar is on real shaky ground. We are losing our world reserve status that came into existence with the Bretton Woods agreement in 1944. The dollar was strengthened in 1974 when the deal to protect the Saudis with our military meant that dollars could be the only currency used to buy OPEC oil and therefor giving us the dominant position of having the strongest currency in the world. Now we are at the point of... It's not if, it's when the dollar loses its world reserve status and that trillions of US Treasuries get dumped on our shores, what will happen then? What do you think will happen?

I will tell you what will happen when those trillions end up here... interest rates will spike, inflation will soar more than ever and a reset that damages this country in many ways will occur... the FED will try to ram CBDCs down our collective throats and any privacy you ever had with your money will come to an abrupt end. On top of that the money will be programmable and have an expiration date.... so, for now its little by little until its all at once... the all at once is when people realize collectively that the dollar has died. It could happen next week, or it could happen 3 years from now. We are losing our hegemony, but still retaining our superiority with technology and military strength, but, for how long? Putin is threatening the usage of nukes... what do you think that leads to when Xi is so comfortable with him?

You sound like a teleprompter political hack like we saw just a day ago... and yes, add to that ... at times it looked like he was reading something off a teleprompter. Go back and look... he was looking straight ahead and a little bit high in a few of his lenthy statements. Maybe he was getting messages through an ear piece of what to say... who cares? The guy is a mess. Jill should be charged with elder abuse.

Here you are talking about character defects that all of us have at one time or another... any Skeltons in your closet? Trump lies... oh, the horror of that... OMG... the sky is falling. Look, if you don't see what a precarious place this world and this country is in right now by the 3 plus years this failed administration has got us into... then, like others here, you are as blind and deaf as can be. We need a strong and sharp leader now, before it to late... if Biden stays in it over for the USA... foreign leaders now know what's left of Biden's ability to function... its a horror show!

We are screwed because we having been screwing up how we run this countries fiscal policies both here and abroad. This has been going on for decades so you can blame any president you want. It matters little who gets the blame, all that matters is we get real leadership with problem solving strategies and a velvet hand to implement whatever needs to be done with other countries to straighten out the mess made for decades. Otherwise, it is almost inevitable that war breaks out and if that happens we all lose.

 

[Zerks]

Pelosi accepted blame through chain command, not the decisions made by her staff, and graciously.
Raise taxes on certain people is not what Trump said. Defending his lies is fruitless.
Bottom line is we need someone to step up NOW and overshadow Beavis and Butthead.

BS... Pelosi is blaming trump for Jan 6th even though here documentary producing daughter captured her on tape admitting it was her fault. Trump offered 10,000 national guards for Jan 6th, Even mentioned it to the mayor of DC, they both declined the support for a peaceful event to take place that day. Why do you think Tucker was fired from FOX? He exposed the myth of Jan 6th.. He was always getting attacked for exposing the left... he just went too far with showing Capitol Police escorting that Navy guy around the Capitol.

 

[OldBusaGuy]

So let's review this. He paid into the social security system his govt collected for decades. As well as paying income and payroll taxes for any employees he may have had. And then he becomes disabled after those decades, and you feel he shouldn't be able to get the benefits his govt agrees he's entitled to collect?

Who, if not him, do you feel should be able to collect this benefit? He didn't ask to be taxed. Nor to become disabled.

Food stamps. Sorely needed by some. As is welfare. Why shouldn't they continue to clean toilets? It's a well needed service that can help give back for the social services they are receiving. If people not on welfare or food stamps can work cleaning toilets, so can they.

Way to twist my words around. I expect that from the trump cult members.

I have no problem with someone paying into ss and then collecting from it. It's the strong conservatives that are always whining about those who collect anything from the government. You know, things like welfare moms.

And as to food stamps and cleaning toilets, you totally missed my point. Of course someone needs to "clean toilets" and do janitorial work. My point is that if that doesn't pay enough to pay rent and buy food, what are they supposed to do, live on the streets?

Glad to see that you admit that some folks need food stamps and welfare. Maybe you do have a partial heart after all.

 

[OldBusaGuy]

Let us know when you wake up to reality.

The debate if you could call it that was all we needed to see what derelict politician does before leaving office. As far as Trump goes, he understands business, he understands foreign policy, he understands the USA petro dollar is on real shaky ground. We are losing our world reserve status that came into existence with the Bretton Woods agreement in 1944. The dollar was strengthened in 1974 when the deal to protect the Saudis with our military meant that dollars could be the only currency used to buy OPEC oil and therefor giving us the dominant position of having the strongest currency in the world. Now we are at the point of... It's not if, it's when the dollar loses its world reserve status and that trillions of US Treasuries get dumped on our shores, what will happen then? What do you think will happen?

I will tell you what will happen when those trillions end up here... interest rates will spike, inflation will soar more than ever and a reset that damages this country in many ways will occur... the FED will try to ram CBDCs down our collective throats and any privacy you ever had with your money will come to an abrupt end. On top of that the money will be programmable and have an expiration date.... so, for now its little by little until its all at once... the all at once is when people realize collectively that the dollar has died. It could happen next week, or it could happen 3 years from now. We are losing our hegemony, but still retaining our superiority with technology and military strength, but, for how long? Putin is threatening the usage of nukes... what do you think that leads to when Xi is so comfortable with him?

You sound like a teleprompter political hack like we saw just a day ago... and yes, add to that ... at times it looked like he was reading something off a teleprompter. Go back and look... he was looking straight ahead and a little bit high in a few of his lenthy statements. Maybe he was getting messages through an ear piece of what to say... who cares? The guy is a mess. Jill should be charged with elder abuse.

Here you are talking about character defects that all of us have at one time or another... any Skeltons in your closet? Trump lies... oh, the horror of that... OMG... the sky is falling. Look, if you don't see what a precarious place this world and this country is in right now by the 3 plus years this failed administration has got us into... then, like others here, you are as blind and deaf as can be. We need a strong and sharp leader now, before it to late... if Biden stays in it over for the USA... foreign leaders now know what's left of Biden's ability to function... its a horror show!

We are screwed because we having been screwing up how we run this countries fiscal policies both here and abroad. This has been going on for decades so you can blame any president you want. It matters little who gets the blame, all that matters is we get real leadership with problem solving strategies and a velvet hand to implement whatever needs to be done with other countries to straighten out the mess made for decades. Otherwise, it is almost inevitable that war breaks out and if that happens we all lose.

Not much point in responding to your posts beyond saying that my takeaway is that trump wants to further cut taxes, which most of the cuts go to the very rich. Biden want's to make further progress in cutting things like the cost of medicine for those that can't afford the meds that they need to stay alive.

The choice is clear and there is no way that I'd ever vote for lying, criminal, serial cheating trump.

 

[OldBusaGuy]

BS... Pelosi is blaming trump for Jan 6th even though here documentary producing daughter captured her on tape admitting it was her fault. Trump offered 10,000 national guards for Jan 6th, Even mentioned it to the mayor of DC, they both declined the support for a peaceful event to take place that day. Why do you think Tucker was fired from FOX? He exposed the myth of Jan 6th.. He was always getting attacked for exposing the left... he just went too far with showing Capitol Police escorting that Navy guy around the Capitol.

Your cult leader had three hours to call off his dogs and didn't do anything. He no doubt was hoping that his band of thugs would be successful in stopping the count of electoral ballots and he could just stay in as president. Kind of how things work in lawless counties.

And when he finally told the rioters to go home, they went home. He was in charge of the riot and it was his doings. He is nothing more than a billionaire thug.

 

[TallTom]

Way to twist my words around. I expect that from the trump cult members.

I have no problem with someone paying into ss and then collecting from it. It's the strong conservatives that are always whining about those who collect anything from the government. You know, things like welfare moms.

And as to food stamps and cleaning toilets, you totally missed my point. Of course someone needs to "clean toilets" and do janitorial work. My point is that if that doesn't pay enough to pay rent and buy food, what are they supposed to do, live on the streets?

Glad to see that you admit that some folks need food stamps and welfare. Maybe you do have a partial heart after all.

A cultist? Dude you are the one that seems to have blind hate here.

You rail on the man because of who he listens to on the radio. Perhaps you feel he should be listening to Al Sharpton on the radio? Or Rachael Maddox?

Then you use the libtard playbook and try and make someone who has paid into the tax system for decades, the same as someone who hasn't, when it comes to sucking $$ out of our social networks. They are not the same. The system only works when we have more paying into the system for decades, than those sucking out for decades. We have fewer and fewer paying into the system and more and more in the sucking out side of the equation.

That isn't Rush Limbaugh. That's a dysfunctional fact American politics have created.

And there is hope for you too. At least you feel those that are sucking out of the system could do so on the condition that they do something of value. Instead of making a living, making babies.

If cleaning toilets doesn't pay enough, get an education towards a skill that does. The libtards have now convinced people that work in McDonalds pressing a picture of a menu item on a cash register, that this should be able to allow you to pay rent, buy a car, etc. Shame on you for believing those careers are worth us kicking in extra because they don't pay enough.

 

[TallTom]

lying, criminal, serial cheating trump.

I totally agree with every adjective you used. He's also a narcissist.

I'd welcome the America he handed over to Biden.

It's unfortunate that a man that has adjectives we can both agree on, did a better job than the one in office now.

Question. Given your use of adjectives, how do manage to cough up a vote for Bill Clinton?

 

[OldBusaGuy]

A cultist? Dude you are the one that seems to have blind hate here.

You rail on the man because of who he listens to on the radio. Perhaps you feel he should be listening to Al Sharpton on the radio? Or Rachael Maddox?

Then you use the libtard playbook and try and make someone who has paid into the tax system for decades, the same as someone who hasn't, when it comes to sucking $$ out of our social networks. They are not the same. The system only works when we have more paying into the system for decades, than those sucking out for decades. We have fewer and fewer paying into the system and more and more in the sucking out side of the equation.

That isn't Rush Limbaugh. That's a dysfunctional fact American politics have created.

And there is hope for you too. At least you feel those that are sucking out of the system could do so on the condition that they do something of value. Instead of making a living, making babies.

If cleaning toilets doesn't pay enough, get an education towards a skill that does. The libtards have now convinced people that work in McDonalds pressing a picture of a menu item on a cash register, that this should be able to allow you to pay rent, buy a car, etc. Shame on you for believing those careers are worth us kicking in extra because they don't pay enough.

We have citizens in this country that can afford their own space program and pay less percentage of their income in taxes than most of us do. We also have citizens in this country that work more than full time and can't afford a place to live and food. The orange guy wants to further cut taxes on the space program billionaires. WWJD?

 

[OldBusaGuy]

I totally agree with every adjective you used. He's also a narcissist.

I'd welcome the America he handed over to Biden.

It's unfortunate that a man that has adjectives we can both agree on, did a better job than the one in office now.

Question. Given your use of adjectives, how do manage to cough up a vote for Bill Clinton?

Remember covid? "Slow the testing down" was is answer to solving the covid crisis. Over a million Americans died from covid and all he could come up with was to slow the testing down so the numbers would go down. He constantly lied about covid and admitted that he did because he "didn't want to scare us".

I'm seeing major road construction projects all over my state right now, something that I saw little to none of when trump was president.

No way would I want to go back to the trump years.

And trump talks like he was the only one responsible for the booming economy when he was president but he inherited a booming economy from Obama/Biden. Look at the historic stock market charts.

 

[TallTom]

We have citizens in this country that can afford their own space program and pay less percentage of their income in taxes than most of us do. We also have citizens in this country that work more than full time and can't afford a place to live and food. The orange guy wants to further cut taxes on the space program billionaires. WWJD?

Totally concur our tax system needs to be overhauled. Trump summed it up best in his debate with Clinton. You start making the rich pay more taxes, you will lose millions in political donations.

Yes we have very rich people that have reached that level of wealth by the risk they took and the work they put in to get there. They didn't write the tax codes.

 

[TallTom]

Remember covid? "Slow the testing down" was is answer to solving the covid crisis. Over a million Americans died from covid and all he could come up with was to slow the testing down so the numbers would go down. He constantly lied about covid and admitted that he did because he "didn't want to scare us".

I'm seeing major road construction projects all over my state right now, something that I saw little to none of when trump was president.

No way would I want to go back to the trump years.

And trump talks like he was the only one responsible for the booming economy when he was president but he inherited a booming economy from Obama/Biden. Look at the historic stock market charts.

Yes I remember Covid well. They shut down an entire country, and turned off the economy. Then they mandated that if you don't take this rushed to market vaccine, you won't be able to work to make a living. How'd that work out for us?

Inherited a booming economy. Lol. Go ahead. Look at the charts.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

Hmmm. If a blue state can declare a state of emergency because they suddenly have to feed, house and clothe an unexpected arrival of illegal immigrants, why can't red states declare the same emergency? They are dealing with a far larger quantity than a plane load worth.

Hi. Yes here in MA. the state of emergency is working out very will here. It will cost the state 2 to 4 billion bucks. We will have to cut help to elderly peopl and children and vets. Maybe we should that over homes where only 1 old person lives in and give them to [ the new future great new Americans] ,because the home omwers are old and will die soon anyway.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

So let's review this. He paid into the social security system his govt collected for decades. As well as paying income and payroll taxes for any employees he may have had. And then he becomes disabled after those decades, and you feel he shouldn't be able to get the benefits his govt agrees he's entitled to collect?

Who, if not him, do you feel should be able to collect this benefit? He didn't ask to be taxed. Nor to become disabled.

Food stamps. Sorely needed by some. As is welfare. Why shouldn't they continue to clean toilets? It's a well needed service that can help give back for the social services they are receiving. If people not on welfare or food stamps can work cleaning toilets, so can they.

Hi. NO - NO. we can not do that they are very very speicle people they came from a very very hard life. We do not want to degrade them.

 

[TallTom]

Hi. Yes here in MA. the state of emergency is working out very will here. It will cost the state 2 to 4 billion bucks. We will have to cut help to elderly peopl and children and vets. Maybe we should that over homes where only 1 old person lives in and give them to [ the new future great new Americans] ,because the home omwers are old and will die soon anyway.

Yet prior to the Red states shipping illegals to the Blue states, you didn't hear a peep about an illegal immigrant problem. But now when faced with the cost of it in their pocketbooks, suddenly we have an illegal immigrant problem and it's a political platform they run on. The same platform they tried to skewer Trump for using for being elected.

 

[Red05]

Yet prior to the Red states shipping illegals to the Blue states, you didn't hear a peep about an illegal immigrant problem. But now when faced with the cost of it in their pocketbooks, suddenly we have an illegal immigrant problem and it's a political platform they run on. The same platform they tried to skewer Trump for using for being elected.

Trump wasn’t skewered for acknowledging an immigration problem. He was skewered for calling immigrants in general animals and not human and Mexicans specifically thieves and drug dealers.
A nasty generalization not fit from the mouth of a supposed chief of state.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

In re: “Yes we have very rich people that have reached that level of wealth by the risk they took and the work they put in to get there. They didn't write the tax codes.”

After the tax breaks trump gave them…TT you’re full of it!

 

[TallTom]

The choice is clear and there is no way that I'd ever vote for lying, criminal, serial cheating trump.

But yet you managed to vote for Clinton.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

But yet you managed to vote for Clinton.

And basically every other potus and politician he and we have all voted for.
News flash. They were all human and not perfect. Nobody is.
Rather have a guy who grabs poonannies instead of a guy who IS one.

 

[Red05]

Rather have a guy who grabs poonannies instead of a guy who IS one.

For you maybe