Half of Americans pay NO income tax

A modification to your W-4 would prevent the government from keeping your money interest free all year long.

Except for estimated. You have to pay them 100% of what your previous years estimated was, or come in right on the money or you pay a penalty. I knew I would have less income this year, but I still had to overpay estimated out the azz.
 
wheres the article, i cant see it. that link to me to a page with a bunch of stuff and couldnt find it in there.

without reading it, is it counting the entire population? this year was my wifes first year to file taxes. not because she was taking handouts, because she was raising my son and didnt need to work. now she works cause hes in school.

really sounds like a screwy pole.

personally i paid in more this year than ever before. with my taxable income only i only made 1k more than last year.

The link is working for me.

You wife has, until now, been counted in with YOUR taxes if you filed jointly. Why would you not file jointly, you get a larger standard deduction....
 
Well we NOW know why we're considering a Federal VAT Tax ! Ya can't pay for all these freebies with only 53% paying taxes :whistle:
 
Except for estimated. You have to pay them 100% of what your previous years estimated was, or come in right on the money or you pay a penalty. I knew I would have less income this year, but I still had to overpay estimated out the azz.

No, I just meant the excess. Unless he's already claming everyone on his w-4, but it sounds like he's not.

Well we NOW know why we're considering a Federal VAT Tax ! Ya can't pay for all these freebies with only 53% paying taxes :whistle:

I support the VAT.....if it replaces the IRS. (Fat Chance) VAT by it's very nature is not a bad thing, but it is most assuredly a more fair way to tax people and businesses in a way that penalizes you for only what you spend. If you buy a yacht, guess what, you're going to pay more VAT than 100 poor people. It's social justic, just not the kind that Obama has in mind.
 
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yea like what ? i claim married and 1 so i know they take enough out so i dont have to pay in!

You can also have your payroll clerk take out a flat rate .
I worked in Lincoln Mercury formany yrs and always had the girls take out a flat 20%.
Look at last yrs income compared to % of tax paid and have clerk take out a bit more this yr.
You'll break even not owe and not get any back .
 
I support the VAT.....if it replaces the IRS. (Fat Chance) VAT by it's very nature is not a bad thing, but it is most assuredly a more fair way to tax people and businesses in a way that penalizes you for only what you spend. If you buy a yacht, guess what, you're going to pay more VAT than 100 poor people. It's social justic, just not the kind that Obama has in mind.

Problem is that they're NOT planning on cutting ANY EXISTING TAXES. Just add a VAT tax on top of everything else. Ya know, Ya got to pay for all this TRILLION DOLLAR Debt (and climbing) some how. I just think 50% of Americans have NO IDEA how much a Trillion Dollars is. They just think it's FREE MONEY ! And that's a sad fact of our Education Systems.
 
The link is working for me.

You wife has, until now, been counted in with YOUR taxes if you filed jointly. Why would you not file jointly, you get a larger standard deduction....

we file jointly but shes a non earner. so no taxes paid...... cant pay taxes if you dont earn anything
 
Problem is that they're NOT planning on cutting ANY EXISTING TAXES. Just add a VAT tax on top of everything else. Ya know, Ya got to pay for all this TRILLION DOLLAR Debt (and climbing) some how. I just think 50% of Americans have NO IDEA how much a Trillion Dollars is. They just think it's FREE MONEY ! And that's a sad fact of our Education Systems.

Oh, I know that, I was just hypothesizing that VAT's aren't bad by themselves. They are the shining example of a flat tax that we all yearn for. Only problem is that it's going to be lumped on top of everything else as you said.

yea like what ? i claim married and 1 so i know they take enough out so i dont have to pay in!

Married plus 2, or married plus 2 minus X $$$. A few minutes with a tax chart and you could figure out what would be the best decudction to end up paying $0 at the end of the year.
 
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We file jointly
but she is a
non earner .


So no taxes paid . . .

Can not pay taxes
if you do not earn

anything . . .





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#GotMyStateTaxesBack ~ #WaitingOnFederalNow *
 
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Sales tax is not the same as income tax. They made $100B in income as a company.

I pay sales tax on what I buy. I pay income tax on what I make.

I have had to pay corporate taxes for every company I have ever had.

Yes you had to pay taxes for every company you have ever had and that cost got passed on to the customer, so the consumer actually paid the taxes. That's why the real tax rate is so much higher than most people think. The majority of taxes are hidden. If they weren't people would clamor for .gov spending reform.
 
Per the current administration, not paying taxes means one is "smart". What's the problem? Are people mad that Amazon is "smart"?
 
Per the current administration, not paying taxes means one is "smart". What's the problem? Are people mad that Amazon is "smart"?
no... we are mad because most are struggling to make ends meet and we cant figure a way to screw the government ourselves.
 
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