I jump into the croc invested waters once more. What is this about overpriced? Some wanger is talking about a goldwing. Over 20k for a sewing machine. Most BMW's are pushing the 20k mark. The guy with the Rune--30k for a Honda cruiser!! The last time I checked there were many H-D models under 20k. Open your eyes people. I hate to feed a troll but sometimes I just can't help myself.
Sure most Hardly's are priced under 20K (MSRP). Just try to actually buy one for under retail or even at retail. And you can say what you want about Honda, BMW or any of the others but they have made countless improvements each year. All manufacturers do that except H.D. I notice you did not address the issue of H.D. having so many Jap or oversea's parts for the last several years either. And I, as well as everyone else her can't help but laugh at how the vast majority of Hardly owners seem to have a split personality. Normal, until it is time to ride and then they are all of a sudden a baddass biker. When I ride, the Goldwing or the Busa, I dress and act the same as when I'm not on the bike. Just plain old me. I don't need a outdated, loud, etc, etc, etc bike make me feel like part of the pack. As I said in my earlier post I really don't have anything against H.D. I just tend to think for myself and ride what I want to ride for either comfort or performance not to hope people will look at me on a Hardly and see that I exist and think in the back of my mind that they fear me cause I'm a Baddass biker. But the bottom line hear is no one can deny that the H.D.'s are mostly unreliable. I ride with guys that have Hardly's and they laugh about the HOG thing meaning, not Harley Owners Group but meaning Harley Owned Group.
Well, hell....guess I'll jump in here one more time too..
wingdinger....it is most unfortunate that you feel the need to flap your gums about something you obviously know so little of.
MSRP pricing? Anyone can find a new HD in todays market at or near msrp.
Imporovements? Holy shiat man....do you EVER read a motorcycle magazine? Obviously not. The twincam 88 is an incredible motor. One of the most reliable powerplants out there.....not me talkin'......read it for yourself.
Japenese parts? Who gives a shiat?
Split personallity? Show me a biker that doesnt have one. I am mild mannered as hell normally. When I get on my Bus, .......well, I change. Wingdingers have spit personalities too.......nah, I'm not gonna go there...
wingdinger said; "I just tend to think for myself and ride what I want to ride for either comfort or performance"
THERE you go man!! The one intelligent statement you made! Congratulations!
That is why we all ride. HD owners too. You don't have a corner on this mindset!!
Loud and outdated....Dude, you must be REALLY old! I mean hell, I'm old....but I still appreciate the sound of a well tuned smallblock chevy with flowmasters and 3" exhaust....especially if it happens to be in a slammed 49 chevy pickup or something...yea, LOUD and OLDSCHOOL is cool to some people. I also appreciate the sound of a v-twin m/c motor.....obviously you don't. Oh well, sucks to be you.
Unreliable?Yea, we have already covered that topic. Do a little research (other than listening to other wingdingers opinions) before standing on your soapbox here....
H.O.G. Harley Owners Group. Don't know your buddies that laugh about HOG, but this organization is full of some of the most passionate, forward thinking individuals in motorcycling today. Maybe the hog chapter in your area isn't represented well.....could be. All I know is that I applaud what the Motor Company has done with hog. It is an excellent organization.
I'll admit; 8 yrs ago, I was not a HD fan. I wasn't retarded enough to make comments like above....just that with the info I had THEN, I wasn't a fan. That changed. My boss put me in charge of a HD store. (much to my dismay!) But I learned......lots.
The HD rider is no different than us. He/she just likes to ride.
Are there some HD riders that look down on import bikes?
Sure....There are morons on both sides....SEE ABOVE!!
Once again, when you talk out your azz......we can tell.
Sorry flrider...had to feed the trolls again. Hope they understand what I just said........