I have questions,maybe you have answers. George Floyd & Karma

TallTom said:
Those weren't biological differences. Those were culture beliefs. Are the Tuskeegee airman biologically different than the Japanese enemy they fought? Does that make the Japanese racist?
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Oh no, the leadership who oversaw the project identified the black man was unable to fly aircraft due to their race's lack of intelligence...this was proven to be unfounded in so many ways...

Were the Caucasian pilots biologically different than the Japanese pilots-no, just physically different same as the black pilots.

Biologically we are all of the human species.
 
TallTom said:
What is the direct question you feel I have failed to answer each time you have asked? Months? Really? I'm happy to address anything you wish to specifically show me.

Good lord what position do you think I am afraid to state?

And I never said I would not honor what the supreme court has ruled on. I merely posed the questions to all of us how well these laws are serving us.

You use the word TOLERATE. I don't tolerate my friends and neighbors because they are black. I love what they represent to the community we live in. I don't TOLERATE black people any differently than I don't TOLERATE any other person. I don't spend time around white people that I think are poor examples of how this country is headed either.

Sort of like how TOLERATE Morgan Freeman? You don't think he's much of a black man. But you TOLERATE that he is.

If you don't think history applies to today's issues, then why do you perpetuate the history of slavery for your present day social injustices? You like to use the parts of history that advances the perpetuation of your "We can't because of the white repression" agenda. Yet when we look at the history that shows us that YES YOU CAN, it becomes anectdotal.

FREE EDUCATION is already in place up to Grade 12 for every citizen of the U.S. What other FREE EDUCATION did you have in mind?

No evidence that a single parent home makes no difference? PLEASE. Yes single parents can make it. But the chances of it are greatly diminished. Show me any data to the contrary.
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Tolerate is a terrible word full of negative connotations and I find it hard to believe that it was the one chosen to knock down the boundaries between differing peoples.

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Do I also need to make the point that not tolerating the intolerant makes a person intolerant themselves? Word games taking away people's liberties and livelihoods, word games getting folks killed. Utter madness.
 
Yellow09 said:
Oh no, the leadership who oversaw the project identified the black man was unable to fly aircraft due to their race's lack of intelligence...this was proven to be unfounded in so many ways...

Were the Caucasian pilots biologically different than the Japanese pilots-no, just physically different same as the black pilots.

Biologically we are all of the human species.
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Biologically speaking Japanese pilots have physically different physical traits than African pilots. Doesn't make either pilot superior when it comes to being a pilot.

Telling a pilot they aren't smart enough to fly a plane because of a skin color or racist. No doubt that happened in our history. No doubt about it America has racism.

If your father told you to avoid a certain race of people because they steal from you, is that teaching you racism?
 
hayabuser said:
Tolerate is a terrible word full of negative connotations and I find it hard to believe that it was the one chosen to knock down the boundaries between differing peoples.

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Do I also need to make the point that not tolerating the intolerant makes a person intolerant themselves? Word games taking away people's liberties and livelihoods, word games getting folks killed. Utter madness.
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Totally agree. I'm glad you saw that. It is an attempt to weaponize an emotional signal. I didn't initiate that context. I am so used to these attempts to trigger emotional responses. If we don't support BLM we are racist. That is meant to silence us to avoid being the horribleness they need us to be.
 
TallTom said:
Totally agree. I'm glad you saw that. It is an attempt to weaponize an emotional signal. I didn't initiate that context. I am so used to these attempts to trigger emotional responses. If we don't support BLM we are racist. That is meant to silence us to avoid being the horribleness they need us to be.
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Exactly what is said here.


The sooner we stop focussing on each other's differences and celebrating diversity, the sooner we can become one homogenous people and get on with the betterment of everyone's lives.

To divide is not to bring together. Simple logic.
 
fallenarch said:
I think the protest will continue until something concrete happens. Also, what else are people going to do? They are out of work or working at 1/2 pace so getting out to the protests has become a social event. Frankly, it's probably heading off a lot of worse problems by keeping people occupied. When people are scared and nervous, a little purpose goes a long way toward keeping the lid on things.
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I like your first sentence. Something concrete is happening...its getting thrown thru windows.:D
This protest is heading off worse problems??? Like people dying in the street.The needless destruction of lives and property.These are good things to you?
Its become a social event...this is how civilized people now socialize?
Well I guess its party on then...:super:
Rubb.
 
hayabuser said:
Just the way I remember it from when I was young. Before police dressed like soldiers and spent their days practicing their intimidation tactics. Those were better times, to be sure.
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My dad nailed this years ago when we started this discussion. They killed the communities when they took the cops out of the communities.

I live in a community where cops routinely patrol our neighborhoods. Same cops. Different times of the day. They KNOW who belongs here and who doesn't.

People can say all they want, how things have changed for the better from this "progress". Camden is living proof that going back in history to find the successful outcomes, can be exactly what we need to do today. Good cops want to serve their community. We need to give them that ability.
 
Lots of pics and video out there showing just how distraught folks are with the death of george.
In this one they don't even wait for the train to stop.
"Stop the Violence"
"Stop the racism"
"Stop the train" :laugh:
Jesse James used to rob trains he was a folk hero too was he not?
Rubb.
 
Interesting interviews -
www.marklevinshow.com

Bob Woodson: 'Institutional Racism' Is A Ruse, The Real History Of Black America Is Not Being Told

Bob Woodson: 'Institutional Racism' Is A Ruse, The Real History Of Black America Is Not Being Told
www.marklevinshow.com www.marklevinshow.com

www.foxnews.com

Shelby Steele: Claims of 'systemic racism' are 'expanding the territory of entitlement'

Author and documentarian Shelby Steele, a Hoover Institution fellow, discussed why he believes the new widespread claims of "systemic racism" in American culture are "expanding the territory of entitlement."
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
These low life thieves are not “they” and they’re not protestors, just opportunistic thieves. What’s your point in trying to compare them with actual protestors?
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What are "they" then? Insert your own word. People,folks,protestors,whatever.
The point: Hasn't this gone far enough?
MY RIGHT to an' opinion. This krap has gone on long enough.
Who are the protestors...even the non-criminal ones,shouting at?
There is nobody there with the power or authority to make change.
Screaming at the National Guard...screaming at local police...
The mob can get out of control.
What's your answer then? I want this to stop for the good of the innocent.
I'm all ears. What's your answer? Pretend the lives of innocent people are not being ruined?
I'm pissed off. This behavior is rediculas. But,I'll just be quiet now, let folks like you fix it.
Rubb.
 
rubbersidedown said:
What are "they" then? Insert your own word. People,folks,protestors,whatever.
The point: Hasn't this gone far enough?
MY RIGHT to an' opinion. This krap has gone on long enough.
Who are the protestors...even the non-criminal ones,shouting at?
There is nobody there with the power or authority to make change.
Screaming at the National Guard...screaming at local police...
The mob can get out of control.
What's your answer then? I want this to stop for the good of the innocent.
I'm all ears. What's your answer? Pretend the lives of innocent people are not being ruined?
I'm pissed off. This behavior is rediculas. But,I'll just be quiet now, let folks like you fix it.
Rubb.
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Sometimes when you see things like this it almost beggars belief so much I(at least) question if it’s not a bunch of paid actors.
Seeing as CNN,MSNBC for example are almost sending people out to do this and a couple of weeks ago were showing certain high ranked officials saying not to hug your own mother and almost labelling you a killer if you did.
Doesn’t add up.The US is great and I wanna go some day but your country is nuts in some ways guys.Im sure by design though.
 
rubbersidedown said:
What are "they" then? Insert your own word. People,folks,protestors,whatever.
The point: Hasn't this gone far enough?
MY RIGHT to an' opinion. This krap has gone on long enough.
Who are the protestors...even the non-criminal ones,shouting at?
There is nobody there with the power or authority to make change.
Screaming at the National Guard...screaming at local police...
The mob can get out of control.
What's your answer then? I want this to stop for the good of the innocent.
I'm all ears. What's your answer? Pretend the lives of innocent people are not being ruined?
I'm pissed off. This behavior is rediculas. But,I'll just be quiet now, let folks like you fix it.
Rubb.
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Let’s see what compares to your questions,

First, “They” I already called them thieves, period, not protestors.

As for, ‘hasn’t this gone far enough, long enough’?

I don’t suppose you mean police brutality, maybe just maybe, (that’s) why they’re shouting, at the only ones they see as their enemy. I’m sure ‘they’ think (that’s) certainly gone on long enough.

As for “There is nobody there with the power or authority to make change.”

But the ones truly responsible aren’t in sight, the powers that be, governors, mayors, police chiefs, county sheriffs, those who have the ultimate responsibility to properly train and direct the activities of their police forces.

”The mob can get out of control?

How long have the policing forces of this country been out of control? Maybe someone should look into that?

“What's your answer then? I want this to stop for the good of the innocent.
I'm all ears. What's your answer? Pretend the lives of innocent people are not being ruined?
I'm pissed off. This behavior is rediculas. But,I'll just be quiet now, let folks like you fix it.”

Good of the innocent? Pretend the lives of innocent people are not being ruined?
Which people? The dead ones? Murphy, Arbery, Taylor, Reed, Jean, Ford, Brown, and yes even Floyd, just to name a few.

I agree, (that) behavior is in fact, ridiculous and change is long overdue.
 
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