I have questions,maybe you have answers. George Floyd & Karma

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Sometimes when you see things like this it almost beggars belief so much I(at least) question if it’s not a bunch of paid actors.
Seeing as CNN,MSNBC for example are almost sending people out to do this and a couple of weeks ago were showing certain high ranked officials saying not to hug your own mother and almost labelling you a killer if you did.
Doesn’t add up.The US is great and I wanna go some day but your country is nuts in some ways guys.Im sure by design though.

In re: “Seeing as CNN,MSNBC for example are almost sending people out to do this and a couple of weeks ago were showing certain high ranked officials saying not to hug your own mother and almost labelling you a killer if you did.”

WTF are you talking about? Any proof whatsoever to back up this BS?

 

[hayabuser]

 

[murphc13]

In re: “Seeing as CNN,MSNBC for example are almost sending people out to do this and a couple of weeks ago were showing certain high ranked officials saying not to hug your own mother and almost labelling you a killer if you did.”

WTF are you talking about? Any proof whatsoever to back up this BS?

I haven’t claimed anything.What I said was they’ve gone from ‘don’t go outside the door because you may be infected and kill people with the virus’ to almost pushing people to protest.Thats CNN.Fox is on the Republican side.
I haven’t claimed anything as fact.Merely saying that the whole thing is way OTT.

 

[rubbersidedown]

Let’s see what compares to your questions,

First, “They” I already called them thieves, period, not protestors.

As for, ‘hasn’t this gone far enough, long enough’?

I don’t suppose you mean police brutality, maybe just maybe, (that’s) why they’re shouting, at the only ones they see as their enemy. I’m sure ‘they’ think (that’s) certainly gone on long enough.

As for “There is nobody there with the power or authority to make change.”

But the ones truly responsible aren’t in sight, the powers that be, governors, mayors, police chiefs, county sheriffs, those who have the ultimate responsibility to properly train and direct the activities of their police forces.

”The mob can get out of control?

How long have the policing forces of this country been out of control? Maybe someone should look into that?

“What's your answer then? I want this to stop for the good of the innocent.
I'm all ears. What's your answer? Pretend the lives of innocent people are not being ruined?
I'm pissed off. This behavior is rediculas. But,I'll just be quiet now, let folks like you fix it.”

Good of the innocent? Pretend the lives of innocent people are not being ruined?
Which people? The dead ones? Murphy, Arbery, Taylor, Reed, Jean, Ford, Brown, and yes even Floyd, just to name a few.

I agree, (that) behavior is in fact, ridiculous and change is long overdue.

Innocent...you know like people walking by asking them to stop the voilence and looting...then getting beaten up and rocks thrown at them.
THOSE innocent people. Look up yer own fuggin videos.
All this is a nessecary GOOD THING? Party on then.
Bet yer glad your home or business is not in the path of destruction (sorry,the protesting).
Ahhh WTF...there just folks trying to be heard right.
I'm glad you solved all that for me. I feel enlightened.This is not a black thing or a white thing for me...this is NOW. Reality. Out of control bullshi7.
Glad yer OK with it. Twist it turn it,quote names,blah blah blah.
This is good for the world.Party on.
Go park yer Busa near one of these "events." It should be fine when you get back to it. ITS YOUR RIGHT after all to do whatever you want.
Before and after photo's if you dont mind. Thanks,
Rubb.

 

[Mythos]

These low life thieves are not “they” and they’re not protestors, just opportunistic thieves. What’s your point in trying to compare them with actual protestors?

At first there were people who went out after the protest and rioted but now we have people throwing bricks, toppling statues and defacing our national monuments as the means of protest. The line between demonstrator and rioter has blurred.

Sometimes when you see things like this it almost beggars belief so much I(at least) question if it’s not a bunch of paid actors.

That's why I initially found the murder so inexplicable. With Chauvin attempting a plee bargain, looks like he's not confident he will fare well in court. The murder is awful enough but the apparent stupidity of it is plain incredible.

Doesn’t add up.The US is great and I wanna go some day but your country is nuts in some ways guys.Im sure by design though.

Nuts by design in some good ways. Some ways unintentional and not very good at all. I recently had a quick look at murders, police killings and drug laws in Finland, Iceland and Norway. The US has about 4.5 times as many murders per capita as all three of those countries combined. Also adjusted for population, US police kill 667 times as many people as police in those countries combined. It will take centuries before the cultural bedrock of the US compares to that of other countries. I think that is the reason conflict has become a part of everyday life in the US. Not to say war doesn't exist throughout the world but on a day to day basis, people in other countries just get along because they know how to act. We haven't figured that out here yet.

 

[Mythos]

I have noticed exchange students often seem to be quietly appalled at some of the behavior of our students who are US citizens.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Innocent...you know like people walking by asking them to stop the voilence and looting...then getting beaten up and rocks thrown at them.
THOSE innocent people. Look up yer own fuggin videos.
All this is a nessecary GOOD THING? Party on then.
Bet yer glad your home or business is not in the path of destruction (sorry,the protesting).
Ahhh WTF...there just folks trying to be heard right.
I'm glad you solved all that for me. I feel enlightened.This is not a black thing or a white thing for me...this is NOW. Reality. Out of control bullshi7.
Glad yer OK with it. Twist it turn it,quote names,blah blah blah.
This is good for the world.Party on.
Go park yer Busa near one of these "events." It should be fine when you get back to it. ITS YOUR RIGHT after all to do whatever you want.
Before and after photo's if you dont mind. Thanks,
Rubb.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

At first there were people who went out after the protest and rioted but now we have people throwing bricks, toppling statues and defacing our national monuments as the means of protest. The line between demonstrator and rioter has blurred.


That's why I initially found the murder so inexplicable. With Chauvin attempting a plee bargain, looks like he's not confident he will fare well in court. The murder is awful enough but the apparent stupidity of it is plain incredible.


Nuts by design in some good ways. Some ways unintentional and not very good at all. I recently had a quick look at murders, police killings and drug laws in Finland, Iceland and Norway. The US has about 4.5 times as many murders per capita as all three of those countries combined. Also adjusted for population, US police kill 667 times as many people as police in those countries combined. It will take centuries before the cultural bedrock of the US compares to that of other countries. I think that is the reason conflict has become a part of everyday life in the US. Not to say war doesn't exist throughout the world but on a day to day basis, people in other countries just get along because they know how to act. We haven't figured that out here yet.

Right, here, we treat imprisoning people as a business. We have privately run prisons. We have more people incarcerated than any other country. We spend more to imprison people than we spend on educating them. Make sense to (anyone)?

 

[murphc13]

At first there were people who went out after the protest and rioted but now we have people throwing bricks, toppling statues and defacing our national monuments as the means of protest. The line between demonstrator and rioter has blurred.

I have noticed exchange students often seem to be quietly appalled at some of the behavior of our students who are US citizens.

Our Taoiseach is now saying that some of our Irish statues may need to come down as in taken down.Badically if anyone is offended.
Even Sean Russell who served in our war of independence against the British but apparently was an ally of the Nazis(apparently).
So his statue may have to come down.
The world is gone so airy fairy and this PC culture has got to stop.
But hey....THEY know that and that’s what they’re doing.Causing chaos and divide.I think it’s all designed man.Rothschilds telling them what to do but of course I’m not certain of that but I do feel someone is behind it.
We had a BLM march in our capital Dublin also.
Why TF should there be a march here.Is there racism here?Theres racism everywhere.Media promotes it of course there is.
Is there a problem like in the US?Absolutely not but by ‘advertising and portraying’ these things onTV and phones then idiotic young people MAY identify with a much bigger problem than is really there(if any atall).

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

...”We had a BLM march in our capital Dublin also.
Why TF should there be a march here.Is there racism here?”

Apartheid in SA didn’t exist here but many people here demonstrated. That’s how like minded people show their support for the cause. I suppose (some) folks here asked WTF we were demonstrating here. I suppose they didn’t (get it) either.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

OK Rubb, you got me. In re: “Go park yer Busa near one of these "events." It should be fine when you get back to it.“

I wouldn’t risk my Busa anywhere near these activities. Nor would I have thought these guys would be the vandals.

 

[murphc13]

OK Rubb, you got me. In re: “Go park yer Busa near one of these "events." It should be fine when you get back to it.“

I wouldn’t risk my Busa anywhere near these activities. Nor would I have thought these guys would be the vandals.

Something is definately amiss with that.Can you explain why the police would do that?
They’re not dressed like typical us police officers though am i wrong?

 

[busabobh]

Portland, and Seattle their taking over parts of the city. Demanding money and goods from stores in that area. Harassing local residents. No cops, they pulled out. My son is going after a gun now. This bullshit has got to stop NOW, time to get tough with this scum. They want trouble , I think the ordinary people are about ready. I really don’t care about their problems at this point they pushed to far.

 

[Bumblebee]

I get a little worried the pendulum will swing too far the other way and will lead to some serious issues.

White cops won't want to interact with black people because if they have to do anything at all it will be deemed a racist act...Cops will start to get "gun shy" and we will see more and more violence against cops. It will get to the point where cops will be too scared of being prosecuted themselves to do proper policing and crime rates will soar. US 2nd amendment rights will come in handy...

The days of old school community policing ended when organised crime, hard drugs and guns started being the norm and not the exception.

Cops are getting shot and killed sitting in their cars these days...this action will make that a more common occurrence...I really hope I'm wrong...

 

[busabobh]

It has already swung to far. I’m now standing behind the cops, whatever they have to do to regain law and order is ok with me. We can sort it out after that. More over if it comes to my area I’m read to do my own policing.

 

[busabobh]

I remember when I came here to learn about my bike, talk to some of my favorite people.I think I better go back to that, sorry about my rants.

 

[Mythos]

Something is definately amiss with that.Can you explain why the police would do that?
They’re not dressed like typical us police officers though am i wrong?

@murphc13 those look like our National Guard soldiers.

 

[Red05]

Portland, and Seattle their taking over parts of the city. Demanding money and goods from stores in that area. Harassing local residents. No cops, they pulled out. My son is going after a gun now. This bullshit has got to stop NOW, time to get tough with this scum. They want trouble , I think the ordinary people are about ready. I really don’t care about their problems at this point they pushed to far.

I don't think that you meant that you don't care about why all this started. Lumping people passionate about changing the acceptance of racism with the looters and thieves is not close to accurate. Dishonest people continue to take advantage of situations. The problems of these two groups have nothing in common, and to not care about the cares of the peaceful demonstrators is why our society is in this predicament.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

@murphc13 those look like our National Guard soldiers.

Some but not all. Those wearing upper arm patches and stripes on their pants look like sheriff deputies. Light shirts dark pants. The Guard soldiers are wearing full desert camos, right down to their boots.

 

[busabobh]

I don't think that you meant that you don't care about why all this started. Lumping people passionate about changing the acceptance of racism with the looters and thieves is not close to accurate. Dishonest people continue to take advantage of situations. The problems of these two groups have nothing in common, and to not care about the cares of the peaceful demonstrators is why our society is in this predicament.

. I do care about why it started, I believe changes need to be made. The protesters have become a smoke screen for scum , how do you tell them apart, I think in a way they like what they do as it brings more attention to their message. They have done nothing to help stop it, won’t let police end it.All I see is mob rule. Party on America.