It just doesn't stop

I’ve always believed in treating the cause of bad behavior. Drugs in my very humble opinion only numb the symptoms and can easily increase elevated neurosis. The alphabet conditions as I call them are a result of experiences in almost every case.
That said, I don’t see this philosophy as tied to either political party. It’s misinterpretation of the why and the how.
They do numb the symptoms but the problem with these drugs they are passing out like candy are the side effects. LISTEN to any drug commercial. 10 seconds of what it’ll cure and the rest is rattling off possible side effects. Sure millions of people get by daily on ADHD drugs and similar. And millions don’t hurt anyone when on them. But then there’s that one that flips his/her lid and shoots a bunch of people. ‘Suicidal thoughts and or tendencies’ ‘fits of rage’ ‘violent episodes’ are all things said for just about every drug I see commercials for.
Several of the recent mass murderers were admittedly being treated for mental disorders. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. WHAT drugs were these people being given? How many other mass murderers were on same drugs? WHERE are the toxicology reports from these people? Let’s compare them and I still bet we’d see a commonality between many. BUT I’ll also bet you big pharma the largest political lobby in dc tells politicians not to ask those questions publicly. I’ll also bet media has been told to be quiet on these concerns. Meanwhile let’s blame the tool they used and not even consider what lit their switch.
Until that happens and we have serious discussions about these psychotropic drugs these sad events will continue.
The guns have always been here
People have always been here
What’s changed? I’ll tell you it’s americas addiction to prescription drugs. The last few decades have seen pills come out for everything. People can’t deal with reality anymore unless they are drugged up.
 
They do numb the symptoms but the problem with these drugs they are passing out like candy are the side effects. LISTEN to any drug commercial. 10 seconds of what it’ll cure and the rest is rattling off possible side effects. Sure millions of people get by daily on ADHD drugs and similar. And millions don’t hurt anyone when on them. But then there’s that one that flips his/her lid and shoots a bunch of people. ‘Suicidal thoughts and or tendencies’ ‘fits of rage’ ‘violent episodes’ are all things said for just about every drug I see commercials for.
Several of the recent mass murderers were admittedly being treated for mental disorders. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. WHAT drugs were these people being given? How many other mass murderers were on same drugs? WHERE are the toxicology reports from these people? Let’s compare them and I still bet we’d see a commonality between many. BUT I’ll also bet you big pharma the largest political lobby in dc tells politicians not to ask those questions publicly. I’ll also bet media has been told to be quiet on these concerns. Meanwhile let’s blame the toll they used and not even consider what lit their switch.
Until that happens and we have serious discussions about these psychotropic drugs these sad events will continue.
The guns have always been here
People have always been here
What’s changed? I’ll tell you it’s americas addiction to prescription drugs. The last few decades have seen pills come out for everything. People can’t deal with reality anymore unless they are drugged up.
There is truth in this however....

The family unit has changed quite a bit over the years...

Often times both parents are working and don't have any clue as to what their children are up to or going through...

Lots of single parents struggling just to make ends meet and not a lot of time for proper parenting...

Mixed families and step parents can sometimes generate anger and the kids act out on this anger.

The indent of social media and the ability for a troubled youth to find solstice with others of a like ideology....lots of peer pressure placed on kids 24/7/365.....

In my day, we only saw our bullies at school and generally never heard from them outside of school, nowadays, bullies are engaging kids all the time.....

In the end, I believe it is social media and lack of parenting and not necessarily medication, that leads to most of these shootings by kids......many times they have easy access to firearms in the household which makes it easier for them to carry out their plans...if these firearms were better controlled and locked up, it would take the firearm out of the equation.....

Growing up we had lots of firearms in the house that weren't secure and often times had a couple on the rifle rack in the pickup but we never had any school shootings...this leads me to believe the problem lies in parenting and social media as the principle issues affecting these kids.
 
In the end, I believe it is social media and lack of parenting and not necessarily medication, that leads to most of these shootings by kids......many times they have easy access to firearms in the household which makes it easier for them to carry out their plans...if these firearms were better controlled and locked up, it would take the firearm out of the equation.....
Agreed. Social media and guns have something in common. Neither is at fault but the people that abuse them are, and there's no way to sort that out other than controls that limit rights. I agree with Blanca 100%, over prescription of drugs is not helping and that is a tangible issue that needs addressed.
 
Agreed. Social media and guns have something in common. Neither is at fault but the people that abuse them are, and there's no way to sort that out other than controls that limit rights. I agree with Blanca 100%, over prescription of drugs is not helping and that is a tangible issue that needs addressed.
Hi. I think that you are both correct. It is both. I know that guns are not put away correctly. That is why I keep my 2 with me at all times. Even the people I work with know that I have them on me. Not even when I am in a tee shirt.
 
@Bumblebee what the heck? Y’all killin each other up there at record pace!
It looks bad but these are terminal cases....these deaths would have occurred naturally if MAID didn't get initiated.

I can't blame the people choosing MAID over laying in a palliative care ward awaiting death...
 
It looks bad but these are terminal cases....these deaths would have occurred naturally if MAID didn't get initiated.

I can't blame the people choosing MAID over laying in a palliative care ward awaiting death...
All of them? Are some people just wanting to die or is there a process one goes thru to be approved to have this done?
 
There is truth in this however....

The family unit has changed quite a bit over the years...

Often times both parents are working and don't have any clue as to what their children are up to or going through...

Lots of single parents struggling just to make ends meet and not a lot of time for proper parenting...

Mixed families and step parents can sometimes generate anger and the kids act out on this anger.

The indent of social media and the ability for a troubled youth to find solstice with others of a like ideology....lots of peer pressure placed on kids 24/7/365.....

In my day, we only saw our bullies at school and generally never heard from them outside of school, nowadays, bullies are engaging kids all the time.....

In the end, I believe it is social media and lack of parenting and not necessarily medication, that leads to most of these shootings by kids......many times they have easy access to firearms in the household which makes it easier for them to carry out their plans...if these firearms were better controlled and locked up, it would take the firearm out of the equation.....

Growing up we had lots of firearms in the house that weren't secure and often times had a couple on the rifle rack in the pickup but we never had any school shootings...this leads me to believe the problem lies in parenting and social media as the principle issues affecting these kids.
They just did a piece on social media and the link to teen suicides. It's real. And tangible. They interviewed kids. And parents. Caring parents. Parents that tried to place parental controls on app use. Monitored and limited their kids usage. Parents that lost kids to suicide. The kids just found apps to hide apps in. They interviewed kids that showed us how they did it. A calculator on a screen looks exactly like it should. Hidden inside that was the social media apps.

Then they showed how the apps drew the kids in. It was code written with purpose. So the lawsuits against the likes of Facebook and etc are going to be the next stage of pain for all to bear.

Kids have access to things unheard of before the advent of the smartphone. That was what circa 2005 or so?

I don't have kids. And I have no regrets about that. Prior to seeing this, I thought parents were being sort of extreme by keeping their kids off computers. And not giving them cellphones. I thought, man that's being mean.

Now, the kids should be grateful. Even though they aren't old enough to know that.
 
While facetiming with my 12 yr old grand daughter this morning, I explained the US 2nd Amendment and Castle Laws...

By the time we ended our conversation, she and her 14 yr old sister got what these two things can do for a vulnerable person or someone protecting vulnerable people in their home.

Even her older sister said it won't stop crime but would be a deterrent because the bad guys wouldn't know who's armed and if it is worth taking a chance if they are or not....

I find people here in Canada are ignorant to what these two things bring to the table and that is why many are so opposed to them.
 
While facetiming with my 12 yr old grand daughter this morning, I explained the US 2nd Amendment and Castle Laws...

By the time we ended our conversation, she and her 14 yr old sister got what these two things can do for a vulnerable person or someone protecting vulnerable people in their home.

Even her older sister said it won't stop crime but would be a deterrent because the bad guys wouldn't know who's armed and if it is worth taking a chance if they are or not....

I find people here in Canada are ignorant to what these two things bring to the table and that is why many are so opposed to them.
Ignorance is bliss. They do not know what they do not know. And that is exactly how our govt wants it. They do not want educated kids knowing their rights. They want sheep who listen to talking heads on tv and do as they are told without question.
 
Ignorance is bliss. They do not know what they do not know. And that is exactly how our govt wants it. They do not want educated kids knowing their rights. They want sheep who listen to talking heads on tv and do as they are told without question.
Here is it the small percentage of people who get the most action...that and the city folk who only know guns to be a thing the gangs use...

If more citizens were armed and we had a castle law, there'd be a slow down on violent crime...right now the bad guys can operate with impunity because they are the only ones with lethal force next to the police who can't be everywhere....
 
Here is it the small percentage of people who get the most action...that and the city folk who only know guns to be a thing the gangs use...

If more citizens were armed and we had a castle law, there'd be a slow down on violent crime...right now the bad guys can operate with impunity because they are the only ones with lethal force next to the police who can't be everywhere....
What did you do with the bee we used to know?
 
No chyt. I can't believe he's pro 2A now. Bee. Have you had a stroke or something?
I've always ben pro 2nd Amendment and have mentioned several times in many posts in many threads that I wish we had it here....

I've also mentioned the desire to have the Castle Law here too....

I'm not anti-gun, I've just had my belly full of having to carry and use one for a living....
 
I've always ben pro 2nd Amendment and have mentioned several times in many posts in many threads that I wish we had it here....

I've also mentioned the desire to have the Castle Law here too....

I'm not anti-gun, I've just had my belly full of having to carry and use one for a living....
I know. I'm just ribbing ya.

I'm pro 2A and pro gun control.

The fact remains in the U.S. if you disarm the law abiding citizens, we are effed.
 
I know. I'm just ribbing ya.

I'm pro 2A and pro gun control.

The fact remains in the U.S. if you disarm the law abiding citizens, we are effed.
I do believe in guns being secured and out of the reach of people who shouldn't be touching them (troubled teens, kids, meth heads, etc....)

I heard an argument by a very pro-gun owner that said he teaches his kids gun safety from the onset and he can leave a loaded gun anywhere in his house and the kids know better than to touch it and if they do they treat it as a loaded gun..,

I thought to myself that's fine and dandy until they have a friend over who doesn't know or if a troubled teen in the house has a melt down and takes one of the loaded guns to seek revenge....

Ignorance kills...
 
I do believe in guns being secured and out of the reach of people who shouldn't be touching them (troubled teens, kids, meth heads, etc....)

I heard an argument by a very pro-gun owner that said he teaches his kids gun safety from the onset and he can leave a loaded gun anywhere in his house and the kids know better than to touch it and if they do they treat it as a loaded gun..,

I thought to myself that's fine and dandy until they have a friend over who doesn't know or if a troubled teen in the house has a melt down and takes one of the loaded guns to seek revenge....

Ignorance kills...
I was raised in this house. My dad was law enforcement. A gun was always present in our home. He never hid it. But he did make it clear we are not to touch it without his approval. He also taught me gun safety and how to shoot by the time I was like 8.

I knew to respect what a gun was and what they could do. None of my friends didn't know what a gun was. At least that I was aware of.

I do remember my dad's friend, also in law enforcement had 2 sons. One older by a good bit like a teen ager. And one younger than me by about 2 years. His youngest shot his kid friend with a shotgun. Totally by accident.

His father, my dad's friend, never left the side of the bed of the kid that got shot. He was there everyday all day He took total responsibility for it. The kid lived. But lost a good bit of his organs. The ER doc had served in Korea and had experience in traumas like this. Fortunately it was like a light gauge bird hunting shotgun. So it didn't obliterate him.

His dad was never the same after that. It crushed him! I think he probably got sued into oblivion by the parents. And he probably paid for the rest of his productive life for it.

My dad made me go see the kid that got shot. I'll never forget it. Guns meaning really hit home from it.
 
I was raised in this house. My dad was law enforcement. A gun was always present in our home. He never hid it. But he did make it clear we are not to touch it without his approval. He also taught me gun safety and how to shoot by the time I was like 8.

I knew to respect what a gun was and what they could do. None of my friends didn't know what a gun was. At least that I was aware of.

I do remember my dad's friend, also in law enforcement had 2 sons. One older by a good bit like a teen ager. And one younger than me by about 2 years. His youngest shot his kid friend with a shotgun. Totally by accident.

His father, my dad's friend, never left the side of the bed of the kid that got shot. He was there everyday all day He took total responsibility for it. The kid lived. But lost a good bit of his organs. The ER doc had served in Korea and had experience in traumas like this. Fortunately it was like a light gauge bird hunting shotgun. So it didn't obliterate him.

His dad was never the same after that. It crushed him! I think he probably got sued into oblivion by the parents. And he probably paid for the rest of his productive life for it.

My dad made me go see the kid that got shot. I'll never forget it. Guns meaning really hit home from it.
That's a sobering story and one that is repeated over and over in the US often with fatal results.....

Kids today are quite a bit different than how we were in our day...

We had guns in our home as well, they were unlocked and in a pantry in the kitchen, my dad also had a couple on the gun rack in the pick up and when we went to town, those guns stayed on the rack in an unlocked truck generally with the windows down and they were never stolen.

At 10 yrs old I carried a .22 Marlin lever action almost everywhere on the farm to take out ground hogs....

We were taught to respect guns and observe proper safety when around or using them...my dad used to be in the armored corps and harder than Christmas candy....you knew better than to mess up because he'd be on you real fast....

Later gun laws kicked in and we had to lock them all up separate from the ammo, nobody I know of has been shot accidently from a gun in their own home and you never see this sort of headline in the news here in Canada.......so that tells me it is effective.
 
That's a sobering story and one that is repeated over and over in the US often with fatal results.....

Kids today are quite a bit different than how we were in our day...

We had guns in our home as well, they were unlocked and in a pantry in the kitchen, my dad also had a couple on the gun rack in the pick up and when we went to town, those guns stayed on the rack in an unlocked truck generally with the windows down and they were never stolen.

At 10 yrs old I carried a .22 Marlin lever action almost everywhere on the farm to take out ground hogs....

We were taught to respect guns and observe proper safety when around or using them...my dad used to be in the armored corps and harder than Christmas candy....you knew better than to mess up because he'd be on you real fast....

Later gun laws kicked in and we had to lock them all up separate from the ammo, nobody I know of has been shot accidently from a gun in their own home and you never see this sort of headline in the news here in Canada.......so that tells me it is effective.
Modern society has many more challenges and obstacles than it did just a few decades ago. The fact that the cost of living has risen considerably is putting a strain on the resource of time for the middle class... and without sufficient time raising kids properly and coupled with the influences of the social media playing a big part in changing attitudes with our youth, we have reached a tipping point we may not roll back anytime soon.

The constant downloading ( absorption) of repeated messages that in certain ways removes the innocence of youth has become very apparent in recent years.
 
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