More drama with my bike accident!!

HT_USMC said:
The discussion was whether having a firm brake lever is good/better for an average rider. I don't disagree the lever shouldn't "mash" back to the grip to get max braking. I do think that too firm a brake lever for the average rider is a bad thing as it's too easy to panic and grab too much. It just doesn't leave as much room for mistakes.

Again, the firmness of the brake handle doesn't change the braking potential of the bike. Instead it only changes how the rider uses the lever to achieve the same level of braking he/she could prior to the "zip-tie trick".

Smack talk be d@mned! Are you paying karma off or are you just off the grid? :moon:
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If you're the type that's still trying to figure out how to stop properly, you shouldn't be on a ss over 600cc's. Just that plain and simple. If you can't use your stock brakes, you shouldn't be on a 1300cc rocket that'll go over 180mph out of the box. The lever should not be mushy whatsoever. If you need air in your brake lines so that it "leaves room for mistakes," you need more practice.
 
suzuki4life said:
you are guessing at a ratio...the given ratio applies to a car.

Once again, when you say a motorcycle that covers a broad spectrum with very different capacities.

and yes....different weight motorcycles stop at different distances. Call it weight...but friction is based on variables....road surfaces and tires just to name two.


I do understand what you are saying....here's a scenario for you

I have 2 semi's traveling at 55 mph. Both have a GVW of 80klbs. One is hauling grain and the other is hauling milk. Same vehicles...for this arguments sake....same smooth bore trailer. Which has the shortest stopping distance.

If you were taking your CDL test and asked this and got it wrong....you would fail.

Based on your facts, since they are both the same in every way but mass, they should stop the same. Ask around.
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Well, my point was just to prove that he could stop in that distance when moving at 35 MPH which he could have. Not to cover every possible weight, braking system, etc out there.

To answer your question about the two trucks hauling same weight but different loads I would pick the milk truck would take a further distance to stop over the solid object load. Milk, and liquids in general, usually store more energy than solid objects. So since the milk is moving at 55 mph that's a whole lot of energy sloshing around even with baffles built into the tank. So, am I right in my thinking there?
 
NickSully said:
Well, my point was just to prove that he could stop in that distance when moving at 35 MPH which he could have. Not to cover every possible weight, braking system, etc out there.

To answer your question about the two trucks hauling same weight but different loads I would pick the milk truck would take a further distance to stop over the solid object load. Milk, and liquids in general, usually store more energy than solid objects. So since the milk is moving at 55 mph that's a whole lot of energy sloshing around even with baffles built into the tank. So, am I right in my thinking there?
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aren't you contradicting yourself? Weight is the same. Same weight would be placed on the tires since it is contained. You said mass has no bearing


and btw...inertia is still active while the vehicle is moving forward unpropelled by an outside force. Resistance does not take away inertia until the item comes to a stop, and then it is passive. Inertia is still present once again.


We already told him pages ago, that in 72 feet he could stop from 35 mph on his tires easily.
 
zxwut? said:
If you're the type that's still trying to figure out how to stop properly, you shouldn't be on a ss over 600cc's. Just that plain and simple. If you can't use your stock brakes, you shouldn't be on a 1300cc rocket that'll go over 180mph out of the box. The lever should not be mushy whatsoever. If you need air in your brake lines so that it "leaves room for mistakes," you need more practice.
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I'm impressed by you. No really. :moon:
 
zxwut? said:
It's the best option you can get if you're dead set on starting off with a ss. Or are you in the "you can start on a gsxr1000 just fine" crowd?
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they all kill the stupid just as fast as the others. The bigger bike guys normally die from not backing off...not their capacity to back off. The new 6's are running quarters with the big boys now and weigh mere pounds apart.
 
suzuki4life said:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Well as the old saying goes: Don't get in a battle of the brains with a moron. They will bring you down to their level and they have a lot more practice being at that level than you do. Obviously you don't get the point of the equation, Newton's 1st laws of motion, or the point I was trying to make about braking distances. So I tap out...

Also, before you get upset, I'm not calling nor implying your a moron I'm just paraphrasing an old saying. I really blame myself for this situation by trying to explain some of the simpler forces behind braking. This is equating to trying to explain evolution to a catholic. (No offense, to my catholic friends out there.)
 
NickSully said:
Well as the old saying goes: Don't get in a battle of the brains with a moron. They will bring you down to their level and they have a lot more practice being at that level than you do. Obviously you don't get the point of the equation, Newton's 1st laws of motion, or the point I was trying to make about braking distances. So I tap out...

Also, before you get upset, I'm not calling nor implying your a moron I'm just paraphrasing an old saying. I really blame myself for this situation by trying to explain some of the simpler forces behind braking. This is equating to trying to explain evolution to a catholic. (No offense, to my catholic friends out there.)
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
NickSully said:
Well as the old saying goes: Don't get in a battle of the brains with a moron. They will bring you down to their level and they have a lot more practice being at that level than you do. Obviously you don't get the point of the equation, Newton's 1st laws of motion, or the point I was trying to make about braking distances. So I tap out...

Also, before you get upset, I'm not calling nor implying your a moron I'm just paraphrasing an old saying. I really blame myself for this situation by trying to explain some of the simpler forces behind braking. This is equating to trying to explain evolution to a catholic. (No offense, to my catholic friends out there.)
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Candy coat that load of crap as you may, that was pretty offensive. Just be honest and admit you don't have the stones to stand behind actually saying that.

:thumbsup:
 
HT_USMC said:
Candy coat that load of crap as you may, that was pretty offensive. Just be honest and admit you don't have the stones to stand behind actually saying that.

:thumbsup:
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I'm sorry, I didn't know you were catholic.

Besides I don't want to become an internet tough guy:
 
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man that sucks bro almost had the same thing happen with a mini van but thank god i was paying attention and was able to swerve and miss them. glad ur ok
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