Really? Someone made these and is distributing them, is it appropriate?

[fallenarch]

No, actually you're just mistaken.

 

[zukracer]

It's just a campaign button, and that's a pretty commonly used joke in many communities. I can assure you that didn't come directly from the Obama campaign. Again, to make an issue and post a thread on that is pretty small (pun intended).

So by your statement if I had posted a picture of a pin that said "Vote Romney, He's white and he's right", a pretty commonly used joke in many communities as well, would it still be a "pretty small" issue? I'm not a racist, ask any of my friends, many of whom are on this board and can attest to that fact but I did grow up in the south east and yes I have heard that is a statement bantered around more than a few times. I'm simply attempting to point out the other side of that coin. In all seriousness I'm curious, does being a black male make that pin less offensive simply because its based on a commonly used joke in the community?

I offer that if that pin had said "Vote Romney, He's white and he's right" it would be the ONLY thing you could hear on the TV when you turned it on and my previous statement about being able to get elected to the deaf mute t-ball league would be spot on. If we cannot get past being black, white, yellow, red, purple, green, etc and focus on purely each other as equal human beings, we are doomed as a society and will constantly be infighting. I suggest pins like the one posted or this fictitious one do nothing to resolve the racism in this country.

BTW: Obama has never campaigned on the color of his skin, only his vision.

I agree 110%, he has never directly campaigned on his skin color. My points was that someone IS campaigning on his behalf, with or with out his knowledge on HIS skin color. I think we can agree a campaign, any campaign would frown on such a tactic. If he has control of it or not is not in question, the morality of someone actually doing it is. And let us not forget, everyone on here, by the very nature that they are here is educated (at least to a point ) and has enough means to participate in an online forum. They will likely (hopefully) make up their minds on who's the best candidate for the job based on facts, figures and their own personal opinions. There is a HUGE group of people that are neither but can sit in front of a TV and see such things and make decisions based simply on what resonates with them without any regard for facts/figures/etc.

1. He is one of the most gifted polititians ever to hold the office and he is beyond brilliant. Detractors say he can read a good speach but they don't say that he also wrote the speach (unlike many recent republican robot candidates). This guy is a once in a billion person - smart, cool under pressure, very level header, decisive, remarkable ability to focus, true family man and he beat many of the greatest political operators ever (not to mention a republican party that vowed to stop him). Finally he has a vision of America that is based in the constitution and the vision of our founding fathers (the real vision, not the right wing corruption of it).

While I can appreciate and in some parts agree with this, I do disagree on some. I would happily sit down to a meal with you, drink with you, ride with you but we'll have to agree to disagree about some points on our current President

2. He represents the moral standard many Black Americans stand for. The image of African Americans (this is not hyphenated because "African" is an adjective or the noun "American", as opposed to African-American, which implies there are different kinds of Americans) is dominated by ghetto culture. The truth is that many African Americans are very conservative, religious, and hard working productive citizens. There are many of us Obama's out here and to this point in time we have been invisible people. Until Obama had the vision to run for president, I didn't believe it was possible to have a Black man in that office. He changed not only what I believed were my own personal opportunities, but he changed what I thought of white people too. Bottom line is white people put him in office - count the votes.

Thank you for expressing this thought. Its something I don't think many folks have had the opportunity to hear or others have had the courage to say.

 

[zukracer]

Here's another one you might like (this is not official Obama Campaign, I did it in photoshop)

actually this one makes me wanna ask... how'd ya get that flag image to look that way? Not the words, those are actually funny Did you start with that background or did you actually apply some filter to get it... I like it

 

[dadofthree]

Looks like I'm the first one to vote yes. It's a basic first amendment right, and I took it in humor. This country is so racially charged we can't relax, can't make a joke or an honest comment because it might offend.

IMHO the OP is right. If the camps had been reversed it would have been a huge media issue.

 

[Sous]

Do3, you are correct that it is their right, but it is also my right to disagree with it.

Also, I think as you do that if it were a "White is RIGHT" button supporting Romney, it would be all over the news.

 

[fallenarch]

actually this one makes me wanna ask... how'd ya get that flag image to look that way? Not the words, those are actually funny Did you start with that background or did you actually apply some filter to get it... I like it

If I remember correctly I took the flag image and added a filter that had a yellow bias. I was playing around with making some of my bike shots look sepia at the time. It could also be a image I got somewhere but the sepia filter will work too. In Photoshop, go to Image -> adjustments -> Photo Filters . Warmer is more yellow and cooler is more blue.

Wait a minute, did you just use white man trickery to trick me into hyjacking my own thread?

 

[zukracer]

If I remember correctly I took the flag image and added a filter that had a yellow bias. I was playing around with making some of my bike shots look sepia at the time. It could also be a image I got somewhere but the sepia filter will work too. In Photoshop, go to Image -> adjustments -> Photo Filters . Warmer is more yellow and cooler is more blue.

Wait a minute, did you just use white man trickery to trick me into hyjacking my own thread?

Thanks! I will have to play with that a little and see if I can get the same effect

 

[fallenarch]

So by your statement if I had posted a picture of a pin that said "Vote Romney, He's white and he's right", a pretty commonly used joke in many communities as well, would it still be a "pretty small" issue? I'm not a racist, ask any of my friends, many of whom are on this board and can attest to that fact but I did grow up in the south east and yes I have heard that is a statement bantered around more than a few times. I'm simply attempting to point out the other side of that coin. In all seriousness I'm curious, does being a black male make that pin less offensive simply because its based on a commonly used joke in the community?

I offer that if that pin had said "Vote Romney, He's white and he's right" it would be the ONLY thing you could hear on the TV when you turned it on and my previous statement about being able to get elected to the deaf mute t-ball league would be spot on. If we cannot get past being black, white, yellow, red, purple, green, etc and focus on purely each other as equal human beings, we are doomed as a society and will constantly be infighting. I suggest pins like the one posted or this fictitious one do nothing to resolve the racism in this country.


I agree 110%, he has never directly campaigned on his skin color. My points was that someone IS campaigning on his behalf, with or with out his knowledge on HIS skin color. I think we can agree a campaign, any campaign would frown on such a tactic. If he has control of it or not is not in question, the morality of someone actually doing it is. And let us not forget, everyone on here, by the very nature that they are here is educated (at least to a point ) and has enough means to participate in an online forum. They will likely (hopefully) make up their minds on who's the best candidate for the job based on facts, figures and their own personal opinions. There is a HUGE group of people that are neither but can sit in front of a TV and see such things and make decisions based simply on what resonates with them without any regard for facts/figures/etc.

While I can appreciate and in some parts agree with this, I do disagree on some. I would happily sit down to a meal with you, drink with you, ride with you but we'll have to agree to disagree about some points on our current President



Thank you for expressing this thought. Its something I don't think many folks have had the opportunity to hear or others have had the courage to say.

I do have lots of white friends and we openly joke about race all the time. In fact we came up with this one today: These two friends were walking to the bar and....... maybe I shouldn't post that one, but trust me we have a pretty good time!


There is not much funnier than racial/gender/sexuality jokes when you get right down to it. I also feel the white man's pain. I was once with a Jewish friend (I didn't know he was Jewish at the time) and we were trying to get this guy to lower the price on a bicycle. So I said to the guy "Forget it, It's obvious we aren't going to jew you down on the price anyway." My friend got quiet and was quiet all the way home. Finally when we got out of the car he lit into me because of that racist comment I made. I had no idea what he was talking about. When I finally realized that the way I used Jew was derogatory to Jews I felt aweful. Part of me was thinking "if you are that sensitive I don't think I want to go to the trouble to be around you". But then I did what any sensitive man would do, I told him: "You know George, I really didn't mean that Jews are stengy with what I said back there. I really like Jewish people, except for those big noses they have!" He got really pissed and never spoke to me again after that day.

I think saying racist things to be funny is, well funny (Archy Bunker?). But when race/gender/sexual orientation jokes are used to put a group down, it's not cool. Often, the right wing does that and people go off. But on the other hand the average person out there just sort of sits back and watches the show while the news tries to stir race riots. It seems to me many white people are just damn tired of having to walk on egg shells around everyone and I can't blame them for that. On the other hand there are many white people out there who still believe black people are supposed to be inferior to whites. I don't know what the solution is. For me I just sort of look past all that.