Is Romney Really the best you all can do?

[skydivr]

And the republican obstruction machine killed about $400,000,000 in construction contracts my company had spend $600,000 to win and was counting on. That's going to mean cutting 25-30 people. There's plenty of pain to go around.

Was it another bridge to nowhere?

 

[shawnski]

5 pages of comments and we are back where we started in page 1..

It will be same way with republicans end democrats.. Each one thinks the others ideas are better...
Problem is not the president.. he is only a tool.. get to the root of the problem... The goverment and greedy politician..

 

[skydivr]

5 pages of comments and we are back where we started in page 1..


It will be same way with republicans end democrats.. Each one thinks the others ideas are better...
Problem is not the president.. he is only a tool.. get to the root of the problem... The goverment and greedy politician..

I have to agree, and in the same way we need to break up the big banks so they aren't too big to fail, we need to do the same with our GOVERNMENT, it should never get too big and too powerful to be all controlling or TOO BIG TO FAIL....

 

[shawnski]

I have to agree, and in the same way we need to break up the big banks so they aren't too big to fail, we need to do the same with our GOVERNMENT, it should never get too big and too powerful to be all controlling or TOO BIG TO FAIL....

Amen..
It is pretty amazing that the last hurricane Isaac did not even reach the land and price of gas already went up.. get rid of the mother fu$$er opportunist...

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Romney is on Univision live now. From univ of Miami talking to an all Latin audience.
He's doing quite well and getting many applause. The audience is mixed with students and faculty and special guests. They don't seem to be hand picked supporters as he's gotten a couple boos as well.
Interesting to see him address the Latins this far south.

 

[skydivr]

Romney is on Univision live now. From univ of Miami talking to an all Latin audience.
He's doing quite well and getting many applause. The audience is mixed with students and faculty and special guests. They don't seem to be hand picked supporters as he's gotten a couple boos as well.
Interesting to see him address the Latins this far south.

You forget that he has connections with the Latino population and culture.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

They just showed an ad saying O will be on same channel tomorrow at 10 eastern.

 

[m_ridgeway]

And the republican obstruction machine killed about $400,000,000 in construction contracts my company had spend $600,000 to win and was counting on. That's going to mean cutting 25-30 people. There's plenty of pain to go around.

I feel like this is a who's hurt more, like the romney-obama who's poorest.

obama killed the keystone xl north. Libs say theyre just temp jobs though, so who cares. hes growing more jobs somewhere, just need to find the green pasture, im sure there will be ample fertilizer.

What pain, obama saved us from the recession?

 

[fallenarch]

Was it another bridge to nowhere?

Barracks and support facilities. Not sure where they were.

 

[isiahstites]

This thread and many like it across forums all over American is a prime example of what is wrong with this country. No one in power can agree on anything, no one is willing to budge on their views and open their mind to the fact that the guy sitting across the aisle Democrat or Republican just might have a good idea or a point that may help or work.

Instead it's treated like a game where one side must win.......well guess what folks when one side wins we all lose!

It's time (not that it will happen) for the people and politicians to put down their differences and work together for the good of all.

 

[MelodicMetalGod]

I have to agree, and in the same way we need to break up the big banks so they aren't too big to fail, we need to do the same with our GOVERNMENT, it should never get too big and too powerful to be all controlling or TOO BIG TO FAIL....

So where is the opportunity to vote to break up the government? Did I miss that ballot?

 

[MelodicMetalGod]

This thread and many like it across forums all over American is a prime example of what is wrong with this country. No one in power can agree on anything, no one is willing to budge on their views and open their mind to the fact that the guy sitting across the aisle Democrat or Republican just might have a good idea or a point that may help or work.

Instead it's treated like a game where one side must win.......well guess what folks when one side wins we all lose!

It's time (not that it will happen) for the people and politicians to put down their differences and work together for the good of all .

In order for that to happen, the very first step is for "all" to agree on what's "good". Folks, this brings to mind an ad slogan: "Not goin' anywhere for a while? Have a Snickers!"

While we fight over the crumbs, we continue to allow the government to do whatever they please. Brilliant! Of course, why should we be any different than any other civilization that has come before us?

 

[cheferman65]

You forget that he has connections with the Latino population and culture.

Connections? You mean his father being born in Mexico to American parents who then returned to the states when he was 5. Yeah they were living in Mexico in a Mormon colonies started to flee federal attempts to curb and prosecute polygamy in the United States. Then only to come running back to the safety of the good ole USA due to anti-American sentiment when revolution broke out.

 

[VaBusa]

The problem with politics - THE POLITICIANS...

I'm unimpressed with our current administration, and I don't see a savior in Romney...time for BIG CHANGE, but I don't see any sign of it anywhere...just "politics as usual" on both sides of the aisle...

 

[Easy E]

Then, we can count on your vote in November? ???

The Dems will throw neither the baby or the bathwater out and therefore the house rots from the inside - and you know it.

Oh heck no..There are many other issues that come into play, Separation of church and State. All religious organization should be taxed!! since they influence elections... Women's right to choose what they do with their own bodies, Equal rights for all including GAY Rights. Not running a government base on your religious beliefs, Leave the little fairy in the sky out of peoples business. It's funny how republicans want smaller governments except when it come to what they belive in. Then they are more than happy to legislate. Have support for the Arts which makes everybodies lives more fulfilling. Don't get involved in planned pareenthood. We don't need anymore unwanted babies in this world. Don't like abortions don't have one. Encourage not discourage the use of birth control. Take christians who go into africa countries where the HIV rate is really high and discourages them not to where protection(birth control). Is that not insane? So you see there are more issues than just economics in making your decision.

 

[skydivr]

I don't see Republicans forcing nearly as much on the public regarding social change, as much as I see progressive liberals trying to force change on socially accepted norms that go back a long way. No prayer before the UT football game?, Smoking pot is now ok? Or a woman defecating on a bible called art? Encouraging sexual promiscuity and turning our young girls into sex objects? FORCING acceptance BY LEGAL ACTION for gays? Whose pushing the limits here again?

 

[TallTom]

I think you can ignore progress but you can't change the facts. Obama averted a depression, got a foothold on healthcare reform (a democrat and republican goal for nearly a century), saved the auto industry, got out of Iraq, got Bin laden, has manufacturing around and it's on the rise, and restored rational leadership to our foreign policy. Bill Clinton balanced the budget and turned the keys over to Bush with a surplus. Government can and in fact has worked right up until Republicans decided to obstruct it. Those are facts.

THere is a legit Republican view of the country. That was expressed in truely great leaders like Eisenhower. So I ask again, where are those rational, enlightened, principaled, strong leaders on the Republican side?

First I'll address Romney. If he is the best the republicans to do, Obama will probably get a 2nd term.

Second I'll address Obama's accomplishments. I agree he got the auto industry (some of it) from the edge of bankruptcy. Ford took no bailout money. The rest seem to be coming back and have paid off the govt loans. A good thing to be sure. However, if Ford didn't require a bailout and they are doing well, why should less well managed car companies be given a hand-out? Ford obviously knew what it was doing in this economy. GM was an over bloated pig that had lost it's way, They deserve to have gone bankrupt. Chrysler has been bailed out twice now. Both times they have managed to comeback. So if the car companies have managed to come back with cash from the govt., why can't they do it without handouts?

You left out that Obama has thrown money at banks and mortgage companies that made bad loans. Many of them predatory lenders. Yet the homeowners have been helped how? We have a wave of foreclosures that have yet to end. So where did the money that he lent go to? The fat cats that ran these institutions seem to have made out well. The homeowners not so much. And again there were many banks that said no to bailout money. Mis-management should not be rewarded with handouts.

And lets not forget the companies he lent money to that have gone bankrupt anyway.

Obama has taken all the troops out of Iraq and re-located them to Afghanistan.

He has gained a foothold on healthcare reform. I agree a reform here is much needed. But a foothold is not a victory. It's a small chipped away foothold on a mountain. I do hope he gains more ground on healthcare reform.

Now to all the above accomplishments unemployment is still at higher rates than when he took office and we are spending more money than we take in. Gas is higher and going higher still. Because of Obama's accomplishments, we now have debt owed to competing countries that will take years past Obama leaving office to figure out how to pay back. Our country has been downgraded in its credit rating and all of his progressive plans will require yet more money. If China decides to call in its debt, we are bankrupt. If they don't, we will be beholding to them for just about everything produced and they are stealing more of it away.

Oh and the size of the government has increased by how much in his 3 years thus far?

Our country will endure and survive Obama for a possible another 4 years. And I for one hope that if he gets a second term, that his programs will have a chance to maybe make more progress. But we have bigger problems now going into it than we did before. I am an independent. I believe that the best person should be the one picked to do the job. I ain't voting for Romney, or Obama. But regardless of which one gets elected, we have a lot to dig out from.

I actually think Obama is a dedicated patriotic American who believes he is doing the best he knows how to for America. And I wish we could afford him, but we can't.

He has made some colossal mistakes, just as Bush did. We are the ones that have to suck it u and take it and I for one am tired of it.

Obama will have to deal with Republican Speaker of the house Bainer. Bainer has as much power as Obama does and you can count on them both never being at odds with each other for another 4 years. We will be the suckers either way.

This country is a mess for leadership.

 

[skydivr]

Frankly I'm scared to death Obama is going to get re-elected. He's been spending like a teenage boy at the local house of ill repute with his Daddy's AMEX in his pocket...and just went over the limit after services have already been performed....

 

[VaBusa]

Frankly I'm scared to death Obama is going to get re-elected. He's been spending like a teenage boy at the local house of ill repute with his Daddy's AMEX in his pocket...and just went over the limit after services have already been performed....

But "Cash for Clunkers" was an ok deal...

 

[Gpmo]

How is that it's more tax on the rich, when the Bush tax cuts also gave a tax Decrease to the middle class? It's convenient how, now, we are 'raising taxes on the middle class at the expense of the rich', when the Bush tax cuts benefited both? You can't have it both ways. Either both got the benefit or neither did.

The truth is, you want to RAISE taxes on the upper earners, but no one else, because it FEELS GOOD to stick it to those you envy. Some of those upper earners are ready to contribut more, but NOT UNLESS THEY SEE EVERYONE ELSE SHARING THE LOAD, and that's not what's happening today. Sooner or later, you will kill the goose with the golden egg, and then we'll ALL be indigent - but of course, that would make you FEEL GOOD, because everybody would be EQUALLY POOR.

You have a man in office that used his 'minority status' to gain his opportunity for an education, paid for with TAX DOLLARS EARNED by someone else, Who never ran a business or made a payroll, who thinks he's smarter about business than A businessman who made MILLIONS? Romney didn't close any plant or sell any asset that wasn't in need of SELLING, because if it had been worth more to keep it open, he WOULD HAVE. You forget that companies don't solely exist to provide salaries or jobs for their employees, they exist to make a profit for their OWNERS. Normally those things kinda go hand in hand, but not always, and that's just the way it is.

In 2008, we had two choices, keep everyone at the same pay and hours, and lose our azz, or let some people go in order to save the jobs we could while still remaining in the black. We chose to save what we could. I'm sorry some of those people lost their jobs, and we gave them severance and a good recommendation, and all of them found jobs elsewhere. It is what it is, a matter of SURVIVAL. A lot of companies didn't get it, and are now GONE.

Oh, you bet I think that banks need some regs, but the Frank/Dodd act (all 700 pages requiring regulations from 20 agencies) has created a monster that none of them could fathom. The big banks (who for the most part were the worst offenders) have teams of layers and lobbiests working for them, but the small local, community and regional banks, who were not for the most part those who were guilty of the shennanigans that would have brought down the system, but were bailed out by the government have literally been drowned in the new requirements.

At one time, investment banks and 'regular' banks were separated by regulation, and we need to go back to that, as NO bank should ever be TOO BIG TO FAIL, and most Tea Party supporters agree with that. Most Tea Party members are small, independent business people who dug and scraped their way to some measure of success, not the big corporate entities that the liberals like to label them as.

If you remember I have posted several times before that I don't believe that the rich should pay more taxes. I'm not sure how many times I need to say that to make it clear. They need to pay the same taxes as does everyone else. All the loops and credits and crap that allow high earners with good tax lawyers to pay less than a minimum wage earner is crap. All people should be paying the same amount. It's called equality. Hiding money in a off shores acount so you don't have to pay the rightful tax on it is bs. I dont believe in feel good politics I believe in doing what is fair. It's not fair to have the wealthiest of the population paying less than the average. I don't believe in the poor and middle classes not pulling their weight.

Did I make my self clear that time?

Romneys business record was good for only romney that's it. To make him into some folk hero for the small business is silly.


Wouldn't it be nice if they could write these bill in under 100pages? I cant argue with how convoluted the frank/Dodd bill is. Or any bill for that matter. If they stream lined the bills though they wouldn't be able to hide their pet projects and pay raises though.

Why can't the tea party just stick to the fiscal balance politics. I would be behind the. All the way.