Yeah, think about me at work. If you slip up on the way home you're still a soccer mom (**Mental Note to self***
Try to make it home without giving the finger...gonna be a boring ride!
Hey Rev...seriously, you have tons on you right now...enough on you that you're not always thinking about repercussions...you lost your cool, which we ALL do, and you regained your cool before things got bad...
You did good, and put the fear of God in to another living being...and for that, I thank you...
So let me get this straight... If you think you can justify it and get away with it, you will use excessive force, even when you KNOW (or strongly suspect) that it isn't necessary? Aren't you supposed to be on the good-guy's side?If some guy came up to my vehicle and started punching the window I'd have no problem finding my Glock and puttin' a couple rounds through the glass and into them. It would be totally justified too.
the short version of the story
the short version of the story
Hey...I don't have a minivan OR kids that play soccer (yet)...Yeah, think about me at work. If you slip up on the way home you're still a soccer mom (Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. ). If I slip up on the way home from work in the patrol car, I'm a fired arse!
See the problem here, Sled, is that you're presupposing some creativeness on the part of the average joe. Gotta say I don't find much evidence for it around here...dude.....your lucky he didn't grab your beard and pull it through the window ;-)
I don't think there is really a way to KNOW anything for certain so if you are prepared for the worst, you stand a chance of living. hummer-dork coulda pulled a gun... REV coulda pulled a gun. I bet the guy was looking for his cell phone to call 911. I wouldn't mind living in the old west where people could hit each other legally and work things out. today it's a differetn story with lawsuits being more powerful than weapons - and that is just plain stupid. a law suit would never punch you for blowing your horn, but a good wallop might teach you to be patient with others. today we are restricted from being human and placed under INHUMAN stresses. all right, I'm stopping before I get on my philosophical soapbox again of how our priorities and what is imortant is not really what life is, but misdiredction causing ourselves more pain and anguish. oops.So let me get this straight... If you think you can justify it and get away with it, you will use excessive force, even when you KNOW (or strongly suspect) that it isn't necessary? Aren't you supposed to be on the good-guy's side?
I agree with a lot of what you said... but BT is supposed to be the cop - it's his JOB to be able to decide if that amount of force is necessary, and to use only the required amount. Not to take advantage of the situation to inflict as much harm and damage and he thinks he can get away with.I don't think there is really a way to KNOW anything for certain so if you are prepared for the worst, you stand a chance of living. hummer-dork coulda pulled a gun... REV coulda pulled a gun. I bet the guy was looking for his cell phone to call 911. I wouldn't mind living in the old west where people could hit each other legally and work things out. today it's a differetn story with lawsuits being more powerful than weapons - and that is just plain stupid. a law suit would never punch you for blowing your horn, but a good wallop might teach you to be patient with others. today we are restricted from being human and placed under INHUMAN stresses. all right, I'm stopping before I get on my philosophical soapbox again of how our priorities and what is imortant is not really what life is, but misdiredction causing ourselves more pain and anguish. oops.So let me get this straight... If you think you can justify it and get away with it, you will use excessive force, even when you KNOW (or strongly suspect) that it isn't necessary? Aren't you supposed to be on the good-guy's side?
Yeah man if he had cashed in those wolf tickets you were selling then the topic would have been:I'm just glad he didn't get out and stomp your ass...
First off, I don't "think" it would be justified, I know it would be. Yer hubby was clearly the first person to act out of line. I quote...So let me get this straight... If you think you can justify it and get away with it, you will use excessive force, even when you KNOW (or strongly suspect) that it isn't necessary? Aren't you supposed to be on the good-guy's side?If some guy came up to my vehicle and started punching the window I'd have no problem finding my Glock and puttin' a couple rounds through the glass and into them. It would be totally justified too.
Not saying my hubby here wasn't out of hand this morning (should have seen me slipping down in my seat - image: The opening scene of National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation)... but come on man - don't you think this image of yourself is a little harsh?
Not talkin' trash, Mrs Rev... Just poorly conveying my point.I agree with a lot of what you said... but BT is supposed to be the cop - it's his JOB to be able to decide if that amount of force is necessary, and to use only the required amount. Not to take advantage of the situation to inflict as much harm and damage and he thinks he can get away with.I don't think there is really a way to KNOW anything for certain so if you are prepared for the worst, you stand a chance of living. hummer-dork coulda pulled a gun... REV coulda pulled a gun. I bet the guy was looking for his cell phone to call 911. I wouldn't mind living in the old west where people could hit each other legally and work things out. today it's a differetn story with lawsuits being more powerful than weapons - and that is just plain stupid. a law suit would never punch you for blowing your horn, but a good wallop might teach you to be patient with others. today we are restricted from being human and placed under INHUMAN stresses. all right, I'm stopping before I get on my philosophical soapbox again of how our priorities and what is imortant is not really what life is, but misdiredction causing ourselves more pain and anguish. oops.So let me get this straight... If you think you can justify it and get away with it, you will use excessive force, even when you KNOW (or strongly suspect) that it isn't necessary? Aren't you supposed to be on the good-guy's side?
Sorry if I sound kinda harsh - it just really irks me to see the law throwing muscle around in that way. I dunno - maybe he's just talkin' trash?
Lol!!!Yeah man if he had cashed in those wolf tickets you were selling then the topic would have been:I'm just glad he didn't get out and stomp your ass...
Road Rage this Morning...Yup
Got my as kick severly
Umm... Not Bloody likely...Lol!!!Yeah man if he had cashed in those wolf tickets you were selling then the topic would have been:I'm just glad he didn't get out and stomp your ass...
Road Rage this Morning...Yup
Got my as kick severly
You sir, are spooky acurate. I basically gave away my heavy bag when we moved to a 15 year old son of a friend who was having some behavior problems... He's been beating the heck out of that. I have always had a heavy bag, either freestanding or Hanging...Wow, your crazy man.
Unfortunately not crazy good in this case.
You acted just like that guy in the hummer in WWJD's story... most uncool.
BUT.... I guess you kina redeemed yourself by making peace and apologizing at the end... so your one up on that hummer prlck.
I've had somebody behind me piss me off so much that I stopped in the middle of the road and parked my car to piss them off. I wasn't going to be the first one out of my car, so I just sat there and waited 5 minutes. I was hoping that he would get out of his car "to give me a talking to," cause I would have gotten out of my car then.
I can fly off the handle, just like everyone else, but I have a strict rule about initiating conflict that I have never broken.
You gotta get your behind to the gym (and if you already go, you gotta work out harder!). You gotta release that aggression somehow. You'll feel a lot better after pounding on a heavy bag for 15 minutes, believe me.
I appreciate it Bro... I felt like I earned a Board wide Ass chewing, maybe this way the wife will be a little more gentle...I figure I'd just fugg with you about it right now because I'm guessin' that MIDDAY REV is a little more rational than MORNIN' REV...Man I wish I had that little smilie that shoots the finger at ya...
First off, I don't "think" it would be justified, I know it would be. Yer hubby was clearly the first person to act out of line. I quote...So let me get this straight... If you think you can justify it and get away with it, you will use excessive force, even when you KNOW (or strongly suspect) that it isn't necessary? Aren't you supposed to be on the good-guy's side?If some guy came up to my vehicle and started punching the window I'd have no problem finding my Glock and puttin' a couple rounds through the glass and into them. It would be totally justified too.
Not saying my hubby here wasn't out of hand this morning (should have seen me slipping down in my seat - image: The opening scene of National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation)... but come on man - don't you think this image of yourself is a little harsh?
While doing that some dude in a Minivan behind me lays on the horn... I was kind of irked, I mean where the fug are we going to get to anyway??? We're not going to make this light...
So, Pissed off and irritated I give the guy the finger as I move ahead to sit at the light... Well then I look in my mirror and he's giving me the Bird... I am like "WTF?" That's like "Double Uncool"... *Sigh*
I don't think that was your point though, was it? I think the point was that I came across like I do whatever I think I can get away with... In that case, you're right. I came across wrong. I did say that I'd have no problem ventilating some fool who approaches my vehicle and tries to punch the window out... and I wouldn't have a problem with that given certain circumstances. What I didn't really mean to imply was that I'd have shot Rev in the given scenario. Personally, if my blowing the horn had started the whole thing I actually would somehow feel somewhat responsible for the whole mess and would hate to have to live with shootin' somebody over somethin' I technically started. Fwiw, I only blow my horn in traffic when someone is cuttin' me off, or to just bump the horn to get the attention of someone who is "sleepin' at the light" and doesn't realize it has changed.
My intended point was to illustrate how close Rev might actually have been to gettin' his head blown off over some stupid stuff... and the fact that the guy probably would have walked after blowin' him away.
Also, I don't like armchair quarterbackin' someone else's game. It's easy for all of us to sit here at our computers and spout off about what we would have done to the guy, or what we would have done to Rev had we been the other guy, but...
I'd like to think that if I'd been Rev, I would have just thrown my hands up (no bird) at the guy like WTF, and just cussed him inside my car for the next couple miles like I normally do when I encounter a jerk in traffic.
I'd also like to think that if I'd been the other guy I would have gotten my butt out of the vehicle so I wasn't at such a disadvantage to Rev and dealt with whatever threat level he brought to me as the event unfolded.
I'm most certainly not the type of person who tries to do whatever I think I can get away just because I think I can get away with it. That point couldn't have came across any less accurate.
Gotcha. I think we can call it cool.Not talkin' trash, Mrs Rev... Just poorly conveying my point.