So you want to get your knee down, eh?

ok, so after you get the knee down, you learn how to modulate the amount of pressure on the down part.. I fooled around a bit with even pushing off a bit and moving the bike in and out of lean while my knee was down (120-180 degree sweepers).. It was kind of neat to push the bike more upright and then changing lines while dragging knee..

If all else is correct, the more upright I can push the bike while holding the line I need the better?

now for the stupid part... what is wrong with this picture..

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the puck on your left is upside down... (who knew they had a top/bottom) for an idea of wear, the right side puck (more worn of the two) is the left knee and there are only 2 left turns on the track..

the less worn puck is sawed off at a 45 degree angle (about 3/4 of an inch gone), the wider wear patter is maybe a 1/2" worn but only about 20 degree angle..
 
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It's spring time (Well, almost) and many of you young whipper snappers out there will be heading to the track with one thing in mind, "Getting that knee on the pavement". If you have never experienced that warm rush of the first time your knee slider lost its virginity, here is a little info on making that chore become an easy achievement.

Dragging your knee comes down to one very simple but important fact, your body position. Of course you need a certain degree of lean angle. However, getting your knee on the floor has more to do with how you hang off than it does with lean angle. Although the length of your leg has some determination as to the lean angle you’ll need to touch down?

The biggest problem most riders face is when they push their knee towards the ground, they normally end up rotating around the back of the tank and push their leg up along the fairing. Your leg should be relaxed so it drops towards the floor and to achieve this, you need to have a good anchor position on the outside of the bike with your other leg. Stomp Grip tank pads will help with grip.

This is my suggestion to get you started. Put your bike on a rear stand or side stand if a rear stand is not available. Have one of your buddies steady the bike from the front while you mount up into your normal riding position. Your buddy’s sole purpose is to keep the bike from tipping over as you hang off.

Now hang off in your normal position. When you are there and feel comfy, turn loose of the bars. If you fall to the garage floor like a wounded duck, then you didn’t have a good anchor with your outside leg. You should use your outside leg to anchor yourself into those indentations on your tank, that’s what they are there for.

Make sure you don’t rotate your boys around the back of the tank. You may get enjoyment from that but it forces your inside leg forward and in towards the fairing. If you want to be fast, attend Jason Pridmore’s race school and he will tell you to rotate your hips and don’t worry about dragging your knee. If it’s getting your knee on the pavement for the first time you seek, forget about being fast and concentrate on achieving that sweet sound that only comes from a slider touching down.

You need a little room between the tank and the wedding tackle. Don’t crowd the tank, leave three or four inches of room between the tank and the goods. Now practice this procedure until you feel comfy, then go out and give her a try. If you feel a lot of tension on your outside leg, that’s okay. It means you are using that leg for its intended purpose, to hang on with.

Now just add lean until your knee finds its mark.

Oops, one other thing, place the ball of your feet on the foot pegs. Do not place the foot peg in the arch of your foot! Place the ball of your inside foot on the foot peg towards the outside of the peg. What you are looking for is to be able to rotate the foot to the outside as you push your knee down. If your foot position is right you’ll find the point of your foot peg poking into the center of the ball of your foot. As you push your knee down your inside foot should rotate and point towards the far inside point of the corner and the heal will be back against the heal guard.

Your upper body should be low with your head out over the inside hand grip and pointing your chin towards the inside of the corner, shoulder down with the outside forearm either against the tank or close. However, this is not mandatory to get your knee down. Until you get your knee down, don't get excited about your upper body. You can work on that after you are comfy with you knee sliders getting scuffed.

With a little practice you’ll be dragging your knee in no time at all. Add a set of sparky knee sliders and you’ll be turning heads on every thing in town wearing silk underwear!

The author of this post is liable only to the extent of the amount you paid for this information!

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I just love this thread, It has been very helpful :thumbsup:
 
just for the record, being lowered and stretched makes it easier to get a knee down but, you're not going as fast to do it, you're just closer to the ground to start with so you've run outta lean angle due to being lowered. I went out and got pucks because I had actually scuffed my pants a few times by accident when my busa was lowered, I raised it back to stock height and now I'm going even faster around the same corners but havent got a knee down since!...kinda sucks in a way since I spent the money on pucks:laugh:

thanks for the reply/quote dude...
 
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Takes practice. And good pavement. And the right body position. :thumbsup:

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Chin up. Right gear, Butt-crack on edge of seat, feather the throttle, good lane position, Ample see-thru, smooth road. :thumbsup:

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Btw, you can watch the actual video here, lot of body movement. :laugh:

 
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awesome vid...always loved that song but for some reason I'm loving it even more after you put it to that video...just so mellow:bowdown:
 
Right, I only joined to say... Thanks to the OP, I am currently improving my body position and alot of detail in the first post to help me :)

As you can see from the pic and video, I never use my outside leg as a anchor! I'm going to head home tonight (if it doesn't rain... damn English weather) and hit the same roundabout and apply your advice.

Oh, I'm Chris by the way, I know I know... Its a Ducati 748, but we are all bikers and have the same passion! Keep it shiny side up lads :)

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tim is such a showoff! Need a 'greenwithenvy' smile....

Great fun. Really get a chemical rush when that knee touches. As mentioned, took quite a bit of practice, about 10,000 miles of riding to really get used to the sensation making sure the bike is in the right lane position. Odd thing to say possibly but it changes the way you ride b/c you have to really focus with your brain and concentrate on all things being perfect as you sweep through the curve.

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Videos and pics are the best way to work on your body position. You think you're leaning soo much farther than you really are.

When the knee touches down on the street, that is my cue to slow down :;):

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Beautiful shots Charles. Getting a busa that low shows great control and mastery of the bike.:thumbsup::thumbsup::bowdown:

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im gonna have to say the only thing i see wrong is your wearing a textile suit . Are you nuts dragging knees in cloth no freaking way. Are you nuts
nothing wrong with textile...leather is better but its the padding that is the biggest protector...trust me i can vouch for that.....lol
 
beautiful shots charles. Getting a busa that low shows great control and mastery of the bike.:thumbsup::thumbsup::bowdown:

rumble.

now thats leaning...yes!!!!...email those pics to aquaman...check his pics of him on his post about "getting his lean on"...hes on a gixxer looking like a sardine in a can...lol...ackward and goofy
 
Practicing and continuing to slowly progress….

Thought I’d share pics of my own going war with my beloved beast…
A little bit of history, I’m going from 5 years riding experience (all street no track)

1st bike 85 honda vfr 500 interceptor
2nd bike 85 honda vfr 750 interceptor
3rd bike 01 kawi zx7rr (took first fall/highside on this one)
And current 2008 hayabusa my ultimate love… since july 2008 and 7000kms and just getting use to it.

So I continue to fight this beast as it is unlike anything I’ve ever owned yet or even rode in general….physically and rideability wise its just flat out huge… mind you all my bikes have been very stable bikes, and yes this bike is beyond stable, just very large….

I’m more of a road race twisties type of rider, over the dumped/, stretched with a wider rear tire than my vehicle…. As I have also a past in road racing vehicles as well. I wont lie since the one and only fall with my zx7 which was a high side I’ve always been working on my confidence back when coming into higher speed turns…. When I finally built this confidence it became another world to combine that confidence with now developing a confidence of trying to bring a bike that is 100 pounds heavier than anything I’ve ridin.

I will be taking a road race course next season to help develop my confidence but… until then take a peek at my form and progression pics within a couple weeks…

Any advice?... I’m going in my turns depending on the turns/ramps about 75/80kms/hr…. trying to go in from the outside take my line inside to wards end of 2nd quarter then back out 3rd quarter to come slowly back straight through last quarter to finish the line and boggie…. Let me guess, go in a little hotter around 90/hr hold it steady throughout and at that speed should get it down easier? That’s the hardest part coming in that hot which really isn’t that hot if you got the confidence and control….

Macon? Holla at one of your fans!!! hahaha, I want to be touched with your skill!!!!
oh also planning on picking up the pirelli super corsa sp's for next season :)
for the love of god i just wana get my knee down lol !!!!

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so wat is the best way to keep you foot from draggin...reading wats explained i would drag my foot before knee....i have a bad habit of my boots draggin and kickin up stuff in peoples lids...(they shouldnt be so close to me hahahaha thats wat they get hahahaha)
 
so wat is the best way to keep you foot from draggin...reading wats explained i would drag my foot before knee....i have a bad habit of my boots draggin and kickin up stuff in peoples lids...(they shouldnt be so close to me hahahaha thats wat they get hahahaha)
if you ride on the balls of your feet you should be ok.. Running with the foot peg in or near the arch of your foot is not a good idea usually..

if you are hitting your feet on the street, the last laugh might be on you... broken feet hurt like hell... could hook your foot and brother I did that on a dirt bike once... That was 25 years ago and it still bothers me..
 
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