Sooo...so who sabotaged the pipeline?

[Rubberrabbit]

Well Europe is once again in great excitement. So who manipulated the Russians' North Stream 1 and 2 pipelines? You really can't believe our media anymore, what theses are being spread here, what "experts" are dragging in front of the camera here is a bad joke. People I wouldn't even trust to tie their own shoes.

The Russian...that was the bad Russian...it must have been him. Now I ask myself, does he Russian really need that? If he doesn't want to step on the gas, he can simply turn off the gas, like he's doing with Germany, we're not getting any gas. Would the Russian sabotage his own pipeline that brings him foreign exchange?

Was it the Ukrainians? Those who constantly demand new weapons from us, get billions in money from the EU and demand more and more every day? Did theywant to increase the pressure on the EU? Do they have any chance at all, to do this kind of sabotage? When I see their special forces, I get the chills, the looking like weekend hobby soldiers.

And now? Now many are jumping on the USA Hate Train! Well, I mean, Trump and Biden always wanted to prevent North Stream 2. "We're going to end this," they said, or "If we want it, these pipelines won't deliver any more gas." In addition, there were reports from US ships that were in the vicinity at the time and, coincidentally, the tracking systems failed.

Now the net is boiling with us! One madness after another!

What's the matter with the world? Sometimes I think the extinction of humanity would be a blessing of destiny. lies, hysteria, madness...

It's true what was once said, in war the truth dies first!

 

[Kiwi Rider]

The most likely suspects have to be the US forces, Biden public stated he could end the gas supply if he wanted, the US ships were in the area, and who else had the capability and the will/motivation to do this?

Gas: Biden is ‘obliged’ to answer if US is behind Nord Stream gas leaks: Moscow

US President Joe Biden is “obliged” to answer if Washington is behind three reported gas leaks on the Nord Stream pipelines from Russia to Europe, Moscow’s

english.alarabiya.net

It was obviously done to damage the Russian economy, but will be repaired quickly so not a problem really.
With all the track and trace satellite technology available to the Russians, I’m betting they know exactly who is responsible for it.
Time will tell. . .

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

This is definitely TRUMPS fault…

 

[Bumblebee]

This is definitely TRUMPS fault…

Trump who?

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Trump who?

Love how selective you are.
Same guy that started the revolution or whatever they call it these days..

 

[Bumblebee]

Love how selective you are.
Same guy that started the revolution or whatever they call it these days..

Right, the former reality show host....

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Right, the former reality show host....

….and 45th potus

 

[hayabuser]

The most likely suspects have to be the US forces, Biden public stated he could end the gas supply if he wanted, the US ships were in the area, and who else had the capability and the will/motivation to do this?

Gas: Biden is ‘obliged’ to answer if US is behind Nord Stream gas leaks: Moscow

US President Joe Biden is “obliged” to answer if Washington is behind three reported gas leaks on the Nord Stream pipelines from Russia to Europe, Moscow’s

english.alarabiya.net

It was obviously done to damage the Russian economy, but will be repaired quickly so not a problem really.
With all the track and trace satellite technology available to the Russians, I’m betting they know exactly who is responsible for it.
Time will tell. . .

I agree that the USA is the likely culprit but my thinking is that it wasn't done to damage the Russian economy, but more to take away that leverage tool from Putin. He can no longer threaten to turn off the taps if the taps can't be turned on.

 

[Kiwi Rider]

I agree that the USA is the likely culprit but my thinking is that it wasn't done to damage the Russian economy, but more to take away that leverage tool from Putin. He can no longer threaten to turn off the taps if the taps can't be turned on.

Yes it’s a two edged sword, it damages the Russian economy and also takes away the leverage angle they had… but isn’t it interesting that also the pipeline to Moldova The Soyuz pipeline, has suffered damage (latest reports) and also on the same day the Nordstream pipelines were hit, a new pipeline opened … the Baltic Pipe Project.

https://www.baltic-pipe.eu/the-project/

And now the Ukraine Referenda has concluded an overwhelming number of people from the 4 regions have voted to go with Russia, Putin will officially welcome them into the Russian Federation very soon.
If NATO fires a single bullet into those regions the wrath of Russia will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
God help us all.

 

[ottafish]

Apparently this guy…

 

[michael parris heuberger]

Yes it’s a two edged sword, it damages the Russian economy and also takes away the leverage angle they had… but isn’t it interesting that also the pipeline to Moldova The Soyuz pipeline, has suffered damage (latest reports) and also on the same day the Nordstream pipelines were hit, a new pipeline opened … the Baltic Pipe Project.

https://www.baltic-pipe.eu/the-project/

And now the Ukraine Referenda has concluded an overwhelming number of people from the 4 regions have voted to go with Russia, Putin will officially welcome them into the Russian Federation very soon.
If NATO fires a single bullet into those regions the wrath of Russia will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
God help us all.

Hi. Ka
I will Rider. I think the Democrats here in the USA should change the voting laws. This way it can not be challenged or called out as stolen. Democrats will go door to door with the militery to make sure that every one votes ( the correct way.) Witch would be the best for the children. Get it Democrats brings the army to makes sure you vote for them.

 

[TallTom]

Yes it’s a two edged sword, it damages the Russian economy and also takes away the leverage angle they had… but isn’t it interesting that also the pipeline to Moldova The Soyuz pipeline, has suffered damage (latest reports) and also on the same day the Nordstream pipelines were hit, a new pipeline opened … the Baltic Pipe Project.

https://www.baltic-pipe.eu/the-project/

And now the Ukraine Referenda has concluded an overwhelming number of people from the 4 regions have voted to go with Russia, Putin will officially welcome them into the Russian Federation very soon.
If NATO fires a single bullet into those regions the wrath of Russia will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
God help us all.

Ukraine isn't part of NATO. As far as I know not one shot has been fired by NATO in this conflict.

These territories are being recognized by no one but Russia, as being Russian.

 

[Kiwi Rider]

Ukraine isn't part of NATO. As far as I know not one shot has been fired by NATO in this conflict.

These territories are being recognized by no one but Russia, as being Russian.

NATOmay not have pulled the trigger but they certainly have handed the loaded guns to Zelensky.
NATO has repeatedly requested that Ukraine join the pact. There has been low support from the Ukraine people in the past BUT Zelensky wants to join urgently and bring NATO forces in to the conflict.
The support of the people has risen sharply in the last 6 months, and my point was that IF and WHEN Ukraine joins NATO (which appears to be inevitable) there will be all out war, Putin will not allow the threat of NATO forces on his border or in his newly acquired territory.
If the people of these 4 Ukrainian territories want to be Russian, so be it.
If the NATO pact don’t want to recognise it, there’s gonna be big problems.
I’m not taking sides here… I’m observing from the sidelines, and it’s getting interesting to say the least!

 

[TallTom]

NATOmay not have pulled the trigger but they certainly have handed the loaded guns to Zelensky.
NATO has repeatedly requested that Ukraine join the pact. There has been low support from the Ukraine people in the past BUT Zelensky wants to join urgently and bring NATO forces in to the conflict.
The support of the people has risen sharply in the last 6 months, and my point was that IF and WHEN Ukraine joins NATO there will be all out war, Putin will not allow the threat of NATO forces on his border or in his newly acquired territory.
If the people of these 4 Ukrainian territories want to be Russian, so be it.
If the NATO pact don’t want to recognise it, there’s gonna be big problems.
I’m not taking sides here… I’m observing from the sidelines, and it’s getting interesting to say the least!

These people were forced at gunpoint by Russian soldiers to cast their votes. Certainly not considered by anyone to seem like a fair choice.

 

[Kiwi Rider]

These people were forced at gunpoint by Russian soldiers to cast their votes. Certainly not considered by anyone to seem like a fair choice.

We’re you there to see this for yourself?
The western press says one thing and the Russian press says the other.
You are choosing to go along with the western narrative.
I’m not choosing one or the other, I’ll reserve that for a later time…. We are caught in an information war and it’s the power of propaganda that has the minds of the people.
The news media are professional liars.
To know for certain what is truly going on over there you would have to go and see for yourself.
Have a look at Patrick Lancaster’s YouTube channel, he’s an American citizen and an independent journalist, crowd funded, and he’s reporting the situation from what I can see as an independent journalist.
Judge for yourself… that’s all any of us can do.

 

[TallTom]

We’re you there to see this for yourself?
The western press says one thing and the Russian press says the other.
You are choosing to go along with the western narrative.
I’m not choosing one or the other, I’ll reserve that for a later time…. We are caught in an information war and it’s the power of propaganda that has the minds of the people.
The news media are professional liars.
To know for certain what is truly going on over there you would have to go and see for yourself.
Have a look at Patrick Lancaster’s YouTube channel, he’s an American citizen and an independent journalist, crowd funded, and he’s reporting the situation from what I can see as an independent journalist.
Judge for yourself… that’s all any of us can do.

Yes it's true. I can only say what the video before my eyes seemed to show. I suppose that could all be actors. That seems to be the explanation used here in the U.S. when what we see presented can't be construed as factual.

 

[Kiwi Rider]

Yes it's true. I can only say what the video before my eyes seemed to show. I spoke that could all be actors. That seems to be the explanation used here in the U.S. when what we see presented can't be construed as factual.

Have a look at this with a clear and open mind…

 

[RacingJake]

Apparently this guy…


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That's Steven Seagal !

 

[TallTom]

Have a look at this with a clear and open mind…

Ukraine has been in conflict with some regions for years. That's not news. But the land in question is sovereign Ukraine territory. Ukraine's position is we aren't going to just give you the land because you wish it to be so. They could have handed it over years ago. If Russia wants to annex it by force, then Ukraine's has every right to defend it.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

One things for sure. Things keep getting worse by the minute. It’ll be a long time before it gets better.