PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give us til after November. This is just bone-headed politics....
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Obama Administration Blocks Keystone XL Pipeline
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give us til after November. This is just bone-headed politics....
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we should alos jack the price on natural gas we sell to you guys from the east coast...oh wait our country is dumb enough to buy it back at a higher price.....PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give us til after November. This is just bone-headed politics....
Magellan: Nemaha oil spill smaller than first thought
This happened about 40 miles from where I live, and the same pipe runs through a small portion of my property.
I`m still all for this Keystone Pipeline being built, and believe todays technology will make the pipeline even safer should something like this occur.
This happened about 40 miles from where I live, and the same pipe runs through a small portion of my property.
I`m still all for this Keystone Pipeline being built, and believe todays technology will make the pipeline even safer should something like this occur.
Easy guys I was being a bit sarcastic. Sorry forgot the 
Does anyone have a good source, non-partisan if possible, for the specifics on this? I just haven't read enough to have a solid opinion on it. Is this oil laden with sand that needs extra love ? I remember hearing it is a lower quality oil that would probably be exported but I guess that will be $$$ in a lot of pockets, money to spend!!
google oil sands or tar sands. tons of links will pop up. the oil is already in the u.s. and as far south as cushing ok. theres an expansion planned, thats what the president is blocking.
Big Bo
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Yes he does. To make you NEED to rely on the Government. Bammie has a vision, that vision is to model the USA after Europe.
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Warchild
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'Tis a lot of political angst that amounts to diddly.
The Red Team is just making hay while the sun shines. The pipeline will happen. Everyone knows it.... Prez knows it will happen... TransCanada knows that it will happen.... even that very NBC article you linked to knows it:
While I am far from a tree-hugger, there are good reasons to hold off pipeline construction in its current form, and force the TransCanada executives to re-think their intended pipeline route. This XL Pipeline project will still happen... and all them "jobs" will happen, etc, etc; this is just a chance for the Repubs to howl/stir up the masses until the permit is granted.
A huge problem is that the current proposed XL pipeline route would cross the Sandhills region, which is over the top of the aquifer. The area is the major regeneration source for the underground watersource. The current Keystone line runs through the eastern part of Nebraska - not through the Sandhills, which is a fairly fragile ecosystem and one of the largest wetland ecosystems in the Western Hemisphere.
A LOT of Nebraskans - many who are hard-core conservative Republicans - get their drinking water from this aquifer.
Believe me, those republican Nebraskans are ecstatic that Obama nixed the permit until the route gets changed!
So... all these TransCanada executives have to do to re-route the proposed XL line to keep it north of the Aquifier, and then link up this new pipeline segment with the existing Keystone line in the southeastern corner of South Dakota. Then the pipeline permit can be granted. Prez knows this. TransCanada knows this. The pipeline will happen after the Nebraska segment of route is moved north.
The proposed XL pipeline through south Oklahoma/eastern Texas isn't under any scrutiny by the granola-crappers; they must consider this region already too ate-up with Environmental Badness to bother with.
The drinking water-providing Aquifer is, of course, another matter.
In the interim, Prez gets political points (in an election year) with his large constituent of tree-hugging granola-crappers, and the Repubs get to hammer the Dems as job-cutting, anti-energy demons of 'Merica. Win-win for both! And in the end, pipeline still gets built, we still get the jobs, and the oil.
It's been lanquishing in Congress with multiple requests to deal with it for over a year. They finally had to put an agreement that he'd crap or get off the pot in the last funding bill to get him to make a decision. He's had the chance to do this for awhile and he didn't in order to play politics in an election year when we need the oil and need the jobs. What again would be the right's criticism if he'd signed it? The only one's who would have been mad at him are the enviromentalists.
dragonbusa
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wow! some body gets it! its not about oil, its about bringing the USA to its knees and starting the new world order! wake up people, bamo has a big time plan!
Warchild
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No, not environmentalists, rather, the actual people affected by this flawed route - red-blooded Nebraskans - that would have been pissed if this had gone through unaltered.
The Republicans seized upon this fear to invoke a dirty political tactic: they forced an unreasonable 60-day response time to approve the NEW permit for the NEW route, knowing full well it would get denied because the new study would take longer than 60 days to complete. With no choice in the matter, the State Dept denied the permit, citing a lack of study time. Whereupon the Right screamed "look at that job-cutting liberal socialist in the White House!"... it's all political tripe!
And amazingly... it was the Republican congressman from Nebraska that tried this end-around!
SOURCE: Nebraskans Outraged Over Rep. Lee Terry's Keystone XL 'Fast-Track' Bill | InsideClimate News
x2. this project should already be done.
looks like there already is a couple routes through nebraska
Does anyone have a source on how much we really import and from where?
BigBadDodge
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Having worked everywhere from pipeline welding to drilling, frac crews etc, definately not minimum wage work. Thinking of going back to it actually!
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