sooooo....you think its all just far fetched conspiracy's eh??

Not bizarre when you understand what they true, ulitmate goal really is...
 
GNBRETT said:
u can call it whatever u want but gun show sales and straw sales are a huge loophole. if u think all those ppl at gun shows adhere to the regulations when selling guns ur just fooling urself. most of the time the identification they use isnt even real. u think the guy selling the gun cares? no he absolutely doesnt. he just puts some guys name thru and if it comes up clean he is out the door. such a joke.

I dont need to talk big. ill have the badge for the rest of my life and be able to carry under HR218 whether working or retired. I passed a background check and have no felony record nor do I have any protective or restraining orders out against me. and the same will follow for the rest of my life. can you say the same for thousands of jackasses getting guns these days? no u cant!

im not saying take EVERYONES guns shud b takn away from them. im sayn tighter controls are a must. and saying registration is confiscation is rediculous. so does that mean we shouldnt register our cars now cause the police may actually know where to find me when my car is used in a crime or a hit and run? ???

our system doesnt work. that is a fact. 12000 murders a year must be one of them "loopholes" I guess in the statistics....:whistle:
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So now that we see NY confiscating cards and guns how many people do you think will not seek medical help for conditions they have... We just drove those mentally unstable people further into the dark, they will never seek medical help, they will never take a prescription for certain drugs.. Sounds like a perfect plan doesn't it.
 
GNBRETT once again you don't know what you are talking about. Do you have any idea what someone goes through with an FFL. The ATF is very strict in the records these people must keep. Have you ever filled out a form to purchase a firearm. There are some what most people would call silly questions on there such as are you a fugitive. The reason they ask them is if you lie you are in deep trouble. If a holder of an FFL doesn't keep meticulous records they will loose their license. Talk to someone who has an FFL and see what they say before you say they don't care who they sell a gun to. The only way you can buy a firearm without a back ground check is through a private sale. The problem with the law they want to pass is they want to make it if I want to leave my firearms to my son there would have to be a back ground check first.
 
legion rider said:
GNBRETT once again you don't know what you are talking about. Do you have any idea what someone goes through with an FFL. The ATF is very strict in the records these people must keep. Have you ever filled out a form to purchase a firearm. There are some what most people would call silly questions on there such as are you a fugitive. The reason they ask them is if you lie you are in deep trouble. If a holder of an FFL doesn't keep meticulous records they will loose their license. Talk to someone who has an FFL and see what they say before you say they don't care who they sell a gun to. The only way you can buy a firearm without a back ground check is through a private sale. The problem with the law they want to pass is they want to make it if I want to leave my firearms to my son there would have to be a back ground check first.
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Sir, all your guns were sold before you passed on. That, or your son must have gotten them out of the house before the will was read...but he says you sold them.:whistle::beerchug:
 
All the talk about background checks and the "common sense" benefits...however, given all the sealed records, the doctor patient confidentiality, lawyer concerns, nobody divuldges any information anyway. Pa is so far gun friendly, background checks are ran, and national sellers on the internet demand transfers @ dealers with the paperwork transactions & background checks. Internet classified sellers go the same way, picked up @ licensed dealers. None of it will stop Joe sixpack from being able to buy a gun @ the bar parking lot..
 
captain said:
So now that we see NY confiscating cards and guns how many people do you think will not seek medical help for conditions they have... We just drove those mentally unstable people further into the dark, they will never seek medical help, they will never take a prescription for certain drugs.. Sounds like a perfect plan doesn't it.
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Just creating the future Zombie population is what they are doing Capt. :)
 
I heard strange noises coming from inside my safe last night.
To my surprise when I opened the door all my guns were chanting in rhythm evil things!
 
Blanca Busa said:
Just creating the future Zombie population is what they are doing Capt. :)
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:laugh:
I'm not one who belives the "zombie appocolypse" is coming; but, considering that it wouldn't take much more than a strain of rabies with no readily available vaccine, it could happen.
Intentionally infect a city(s), sit back and wait. The population would drop significantly in a short period of time.
And in NY, only the criminals with guns who aren't infected will survive!:laugh:
But our wonderful government would never do such a thing. Ha! I wouldn't put anything past those s.o.b's.
 
sixpack577 said:
:laugh:
I'm not one who belives the "zombie appocolypse" is coming; but, considering that it wouldn't take much more than a strain of rabies with no readily available vaccine, it could happen.
Intentionally infect a city(s), sit back and wait. The population would drop significantly in a short period of time.
And in NY, only the criminals with guns who aren't infected will survive!:laugh:
But our wonderful government would never do such a thing. Ha! I wouldn't put anything past those s.o.b's.
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Maybe you've never walked the streets of NY after 2am but when I lived in Ct and went there I saw many Zombies!
I could tell they were Italian Zombies due to the V cut T shirt hairy chest and gold chains.

They kept screaming 'Eh Yo Cuz com ova heah and lemme eat yo Bwain!'
:laugh:
 
skydivr said:
Not bizarre when you understand what they true, ulitmate goal really is...
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True, bizarre may not be the right word. More along the lines of insane. I've posted articles about ssri here and other places and they get ignored. Crazy things like marijuana and steroids will land you in prison but its ok to give that crap to children. A highly unstable psychoactive drug, the more I know the less I understand.
 
We have a right to our guns for a specific reason. The only ones in danger of private citizens having guns is government.

It is a RIGHT, not a privilege. There are no common sense gun laws. Only chains on your RIGHTS.

At one time it was "common sense" that heavier things fall faster than light things.
 
dadofthree said:
You know dayum well criminals don't register their cars to their address or give jailers their current address when arrested :laugh:
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of course they do! criminals always tell the truth.

you think when some criminal or cop wanna be or military wash out that thinks he's Rambo will give his real ID when wanting to precure a firearm at some back woods gun show? he will get his ID here. mr-i-d.com Fake ID - Novelty card ids and free fake template license

skydivr said:
Certainly I worry about the thousands that are BREAKING CURRENT LAWS ON THE BOOKS WITHOUT PUNISHMENT, but I'll choose the MILLIONS WHO ARE NOT every day of the week.....

You have now revealed yourself. It seems you DO consider yourself better than the normal population. You think that your 'special' status as LEO entitles you to have the privilege not given to others after you retire? Guess what, when they take away your right, will you still think it's a good idea? You think soldiers who served in defense of their nation - longer than you've had your badge - both in peacetime and in war, who USED their weapons even more than you, also should carry the same right after THEY leave the service? Guess what, they don't either. Take yourself off your "special" status for a moment and reconsider....

Guess what? Just because YOU passed a background check, have no felony/protective/restraining/orders does NOT make you any more special than any other CITIZEN that does the same. I had a freaking SECURITY CLEARANCE, but that doesn't mean squat. Yet, by the stroke of a pen, these laws make those same Citizens FELONS OVERNIGHT in some of these states. What happens when all the stuff you listed above doesn't matter? Will you then protest the laws when they come after YOU? Because by then Brett, it will be too late...

Every private gun sale I've made, I made a bill of sale, reviewed the driver's license of the buyer and retain that info TO THIS DAY. I made the best judgement I could when selling, because I don't ever want a finger pointed at me. However, I am NOT responsible for the buyer, HE is. You are blind as a bat if you don't think registration equals confiscation, when history is repleat with examples.



Bingo.
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ur not even close in ur thinking. I will have to qualify with my gun every year with a criminal, restraining order and protective order check being conducted to verify if I am still eligible to carry a firearm.

will you have to do that to carry on your pistol permit each year? no you wont so dont make assumptions that retired police officers get some kinda special treatment.

I see the retards on a regular basis that have pistol permits who have no earthly right owning a gun. many are known criminals who simply havnt been caught for felony or DV conviction. that may not rub you the wrong way in ur little utopia you live in but it doesnt sit well with me where I am

what makes you think that is so unreasonable? the badge doesnt make retired police officers any better then anyone else. where do u get this stuff from? ur way off in thinkn that I think im better then anyone else or shud get special treatment.

im saying getting a gun and keeping a gun shud be a little harder then the effort it would take to join the WMCA would be....:whistle: people get all hung up and righeous in their "Right to bear arms" ammendment vs. focusing on the real issue which is guns are made for killing. they have little other purpose then death.

you shud take owning a firearm with great honor and responsibility cause with it you have the ability to end someones life instantly. I dont have a pistol permit. I carry on my badge like many other police do. but to carry that weapon I had to go thru quite a bit training and a much more exhaustive background check then the average citizen does to carry his or her firearm in public.

forget the whole 2nd ammendment crap. we all know what it says. just cause u pass a back ground check doesnt imo mean you should now be walking around with a gun. u shot for a couple hrs. at paper targets that dont shoot back...:whistle:. wat a joke! responsible gun owners who take pride in owning his or her gun should look at owning a firearm as being a member of a very exclusive club. it comes with great responsibility.

do you honestly think you could tell a fake ID and documents from a real one?
 
Put down your guns for a while and pick up a book. Its not "common sense" that heavier things fall faster than light ones.:rofl::rofl:
 
soooo...nobody wants to open the can of worms about the violations of privacy, hippa, ect ect..nobody wants to talk about the concept of "due process"... in WHAT WORLD do you think it is ok for the goverment to by pass all of OUR safeguards against tyranny...all in the name of "mabey preventing a possible action"....are you that brainwashed you are willing to accept GUILTY BEFORE PROVEN INNOCENT?? .... i am all for those who really should NOT own weapons because they OBVIOUSLY are not in control of themselves. but as strom mentioned...all they are doing is pushing everyone further underground with their draconian rules and preemptive actions....oh...and the GOVERMENT approved of these medications....dont forget that...while other countrys ban them becuase they know of their historical "side effects" ... sometimes people amaze me how much they are willing to cozy up to the retoric so they can comfortably look the other way snuggled up in thier rationalizations of "everything is ok"
 
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