Terror attack on Bourbon St

[Duro5341]

For hundreds of years the "Crusade" war was fought between Christians and Muslims....that war has never ceased, it has only shifted it's focus...

But even though these Crusades are long over, the mistrust between Christians and Muslims still exists.

Islamic extremists look at the west as weak mainly because we aren't united as a people, they can manipulate this.....there have been many home grown/lone wolf terror attacks in the west.....and I fear there will be an ever growing trend towards this...

I agree.....................The Persian army is alive and well today.

So, again I go back to my original solution to this problem from months ago.
Islam and Practising Islam should be banned in the West, as we it is basically banned in the East.
Some may see this policy as racist, in yet they support those who support this policy in the East.

I don't think this policy is racist at all, it's simply mirroring what we see in the East.................................If it's OK for them to do this to us, it's OK for us to return the favour.

Duro

 

[jellyrug]

Humans are the cruelist and most violent species in the world. No ryme, no logical reason and they go full tilt. Its sad for the lives lost. Pointless mass murder.

I guess we should place "some" in front of humans, and it is probably a very small percentage.

 

[Red05]

I don't think this policy is racist at all,

No surprise there

I guess we should place "some" in front of humans, and it is probably a very small percentage.

Or maybe replace are with have the capability to be

 

[Bumblebee]

I guess we should place "some" in front of humans, and it is probably a very small percentage.

After seeing what I've seen, I don't think it is a small percentage.....look at the crime rate and road rage that is taking place....we don't need wars and terrorist acts to prove humans are a violent species...

Or maybe replace are with have the capability to be

I'd say this is a fair statement.......a very strong capability that is......

 

[jellyrug]

After seeing what I've seen, I don't think it is a small percentage.....look at the crime rate and road rage that is taking place....we don't need wars and terrorist acts to prove humans are a violent species...


I'd say this is a fair statement.......a very strong capability that is......

So, are you also a Human?

 

[Red05]

I don’t think anyone is criticizing humans. Creativity wise there doesn’t look like there’s a ceiling. Just being honest that we’re not perfect.

 

[jellyrug]

I don’t think anyone is criticizing humans. Creativity wise there doesn’t look like there’s a ceiling. Just being honest that we’re not perfect.

To generalize with a statement “humans are the cruelest and most violent species” is wrong.

There are folks who are vegetarian, for the simple fact that they do not support killing animals to satisfy their diet.

Nature is about survival of the fittest. In general, humans have defied the laws of nature, by keeping the sick alive, by charitable organizations who feed those who cannot feed themselves, etc., etc. This applies especially in the developed civilized world.

Some folks hunt to eat, similar to several carnivore species.

Some folks hunt for the pleasure of killing, which I personally find appalling. Shoot, I feel terrible if I accidentally drive over a squirrel. Yet I am human.

In the US we may only kill another human in self defense, where we have to prove, that there was an imminent threat of death. A judge decides that. Our laws contradict generalizing statement referred to.

Ever seen how a smart dog has the ability to sniff out a bad human? Both mine do.

Ever seen how a wild animal sniffs out a good human? This little guy below, frequently visits inside my sister’s kitchen, as he knows she is a good human without a violent cell in her entire being.

 

[Bumblebee]

So, are you also a Human?

........uhhhh, I suppose I am.....

 

[Bumblebee]

To generalize with a statement “humans are the cruelest and most violent species” is wrong.

There are folks who are vegetarian, for the simple fact that they do not support killing animals to satisfy their diet.

Nature is about survival of the fittest. In general, humans have defied the laws of nature, by keeping the sick alive, by charitable organizations who feed those who cannot feed themselves, etc., etc. This applies especially in the developed civilized world.

Some folks hunt to eat, similar to several carnivore species.

Some folks hunt for the pleasure of killing, which I personally find appalling. Shoot, I feel terrible if I accidentally drive over a squirrel. Yet I am human.

In the US we may only kill another human in self defense, where we have to prove, that there was an imminent threat of death. A judge decides that. Our laws contradict generalizing statement referred to.

Ever seen how a smart dog has the ability to sniff out a bad human? Both mine do.

Ever seen how a wild animal sniffs out a good human? This little guy below, frequently visits inside my sister’s kitchen, as he knows she is a good human without a violent cell in her entire being.

That statement is far from being wrong.......

Human beings in general have the capability to be very violent yet very caring.....when push comes to shove, violence takes over....even passive people have ability to project violence if the need arises.

And don't take my word for it......just look at our history, it's there for all to see, and we continue to build this history each and every day. Wars, murders, vicious unprovoked random beatings, spousal abuse/domestic violence are all common place in the human community, but of course I don't need to point this out to you.

If you were a space traveler and came across a place like our earth and were observing it from afar, what would you say about it? I'd be very fearful of approaching any civilization here....
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Most people I know that hunt (and I know a lot of them) don't hunt for the pleasure of killing, they hunt to feed their families and/or they'd rather the taste of game over processed meats......there is a science to hunting seasons which is used by conservationists to regulate the hunt.

Because man has all but eliminated main predators, something/body needs to keep herds and prey animals in check, it has been proven that once the predator is out of the equation, herds suffer greatly.....

 

[michael parris heuberger]

To generalize with a statement “humans are the cruelest and most violent species” is wrong.

There are folks who are vegetarian, for the simple fact that they do not support killing animals to satisfy their diet.

Nature is about survival of the fittest. In general, humans have defied the laws of nature, by keeping the sick alive, by charitable organizations who feed those who cannot feed themselves, etc., etc. This applies especially in the developed civilized world.

Some folks hunt to eat, similar to several carnivore species.

Some folks hunt for the pleasure of killing, which I personally find appalling. Shoot, I feel terrible if I accidentally drive over a squirrel. Yet I am human.

In the US we may only kill another human in self defense, where we have to prove, that there was an imminent threat of death. A judge decides that. Our laws contradict generalizing statement referred to.

Ever seen how a smart dog has the ability to sniff out a bad human? Both mine do.

Ever seen how a wild animal sniffs out a good human? This little guy below, frequently visits inside my sister’s kitchen, as he knows she is a good human without a violent cell in her entire being.

Hi. I agree with Bumblebee. Humans are the crulest on earth.

 

[jellyrug]

That statement is far from being wrong.......

Human beings in general have the capability to be very violent yet very caring.....when push comes to shove, violence takes over....even passive people have ability to project violence if the need arises.

In writing, you admit that it applies to you.

I can assure you with 100% confidence, that it does not apply to me, or anyone in my family.

So, when you refer to humans in general having the ability have violence take over, kindly exclude me from your general grouping.

 

[jellyrug]

Hi. I agree with Bumblebee. Humans are the crulest on earth.

To educate a person in mind, but not in morals, is to educate a menace to society.

Theodore Roosevelt

 

[Duro5341]

There are folks who are vegetarian, for the simple fact that they do not support killing animals to satisfy their diet.

Ever plow a field?................................you kill everything in the top 6in of soil.
Worm, Insect, vole, micro organism, etc............................Will be killed to plant your Kale, or Quinoa Salad.

SO, how cute does an animal have to be before you care wither it lives or dies to feed you???????

Cameron

 

[jellyrug]

To educate a person in mind, but not in morals, is to educate a menace to society.

Theodore Roosevelt

Look at the video I posted above. That is more than cute enough for me.

 

[Bumblebee]

In writing, you admit that it applies to you.

I can assure you with 100% confidence, that it does not apply to me, or anyone in my family.

So, when you refer to humans in general having the ability have violence take over, kindly exclude me from your general grouping.

So, that makes you and your family in the minority......well done!

Take a look at statistics which you seem to enjoy.....these point to a very violent species........How many wars or skirmishes are occurring right now?

In my travels I've witnessed a few things that many don't get to see.....humanity at it's lowest where even devout religious people were killing each other and fighting over the basic needs of humanity......

Humans are a very violent species and it takes very little to spark this off....

You, yourself are a gun owner......if someone was to conduct an armed home invasion on your home and you were able to avoid the initial attack but your family was in peril of getting killed by these home invaders........you'd not pick up an available firearm to defend them?

....or if you were going to your car in parking lot and someone came up to you in an attack posture, you'd do what exactly?

I think you'd fight back in both instances....where does the line get drawn in a violent response? You may not be violent in nature, but your prior military service dictates that you have the potential to respond in a violent manner.....those targets you were shooting at represented people and the targets you currently shoot at represent either a person or animal.......paper targets don't live in nature.

 

[jellyrug]

So, that makes you and your family in the minority......well done!

Take a look at statistics which you seem to enjoy.....these point to a very violent species........How many wars or skirmishes are occurring right now?

In my travels I've witnessed a few things that many don't get to see.....humanity at it's lowest where even devout religious people were killing each other and fighting over the basic needs of humanity......

Humans are a very violent species and it takes very little to spark this off....

You, yourself are a gun owner......if someone was to conduct an armed home invasion on your home and you were able to avoid the initial attack but your family was in peril of getting killed by these home invaders........you'd not pick up an available firearm to defend them?

....or if you were going to your car in parking lot and someone came up to you in an attack posture, you'd do what exactly?

I think you'd fight back in both instances....where does the line get drawn in a violent response? You may not be violent in nature, but your prior military service dictates that you have the potential to respond in a violent manner.....those targets you were shooting at represented people and the targets you currently shoot at represent either a person or animal.......paper targets don't live in nature.

Bee, while you speak a number of truths, about the human race, most of us in the civilized first world are peaceful, have been nurtured with morals and won’t harm a fellow human being, unless it is in defense of losing our life. Most of us do not support wars and have a hard time understanding why they are necessary.

That is why I included the word “some”

If you are the kind of guy who will kill at the drop of a hat, I guess I have misjudged you. There are millions of humans, who would disagree with you.

 

[Bumblebee]

Bee, while you speak a number of truths, about the human race, most of us in the civilized first world are peaceful, have been nurtured with morals and won’t harm a fellow human being, unless it is in defense of losing our life. Most of us do not support wars and have a hard time understanding why they are necessary.

That is why I included the word “some”

If you are the kind of guy who will kill at the drop of a hat, I guess I have misjudged you.

I would estimate your first paragraph to have truth.....my argument was and still is that humans are a violent species regardless of the circumstance which created this violent reaction.

Actual armed conflicts are but one instance that people engage in fighting each other-there are many others.....gang warfare, road rage, home invasions, muggings, and the list goes on and on.....

I've had very intensive training which prepared and trained me to kill quickly at the drop of a hat however we had detailed target acquisition to be able to engage and dispatch hard targets while avoiding collateral soft targets....

 

[jellyrug]

I've had very intensive training which prepared and trained me to kill quickly at the drop of a hat however we had detailed target acquisition to be able to engage and dispatch hard targets while avoiding collateral soft targets....

While I’m not the one to boast my resume, I can share with you that I have very intense experience with animals, including the big five, who would kill aggressively for reasons as simple as attempting to be the dominant male in the pack. And if they succeed, they would kill all the youth siblings of the females to make sure they continue with their own DNA.

Like humans, they would kill for territory, however instantly and without negotiation.

I would like to think that in the civilized world, we are not that violent. Some may, but the majority won’t.

 

[Bumblebee]

While I’m not the one to boast my resume, I can share with you that I have very intense experience with animals, including the big five, who would kill aggressively for reasons as simple as attempting to be the dominant male in the pack. And if they succeed, they would kill all the youth siblings of the females to make sure they continue with their own DNA.

Like humans, they would kill for territory, however instantly and without negotiation.

I would like to think that in the civilized world, we are not that violent. Some may, but the majority won’t.

I grew up on a farm have seen animal dominance as well....people are far worse......take any sort of civilized law out of the equation in the event of a large natural disaster or collapse of a governing body and humans quickly revert to animalistic behavior....Somalia comes to mind....Ethiopia and others....

There are many videos such as this including many books on the subject....I'm not making this all up....

 

[Red05]

Nature is about survival of the fittest. In general, humans have defied the laws of nature, by keeping the sick alive, by charitable organizations who feed those who cannot feed themselves, etc., etc. This applies especially in the developed civilized world.

Nietzsche called the taming of the human race internalization. We developed a conscience. In terms of savagery, you’re right only a tiny percentage of humans apply, but the capacity for it is still there.