The Destruction of Los Angeles and Surrounding Areas

[OldBusaGuy]

A president who by the way collects no salary as president. He directly sends it back to the U.S. government.

The dang scumbag.

The water czar in Ca makes $700K/year to make sure the reservoirs are full.

I wonder if they send that salary back to the state of California?

Did trump send his salary to veterans or sent it back to the US government. Duro says he donates it to the veterans. You can't both be right.

And the water czar isn't paid to make sure that reservoirs are full, he is paid to manage water. There is no way for any human to guarantee that reservoirs are full if there isn't rain and/or snow melt to fill them. Of course if trump said that he'd keep them full, you would believe him. That's how cults work.

 

[Red05]

…”The President and First Lady filed their income tax return jointly and reported federal adjusted gross income of $619,976. They paid $146,629 in federal income tax, and their 2023 effective federal income tax rate is 23.7 percent.”

While their own president doesn't pay the very same taxes they insist the rich should. President Biden paid $334 in taxes last year.

Two different figures here. The $146,629 represents the Biden’s tax liability, the amount owed and needing paid for the year, and the $334 represents the liability minus the amount that had already been deducted from the paychecks, which I’m going to guess was $146,295.
The Bidens paid their share. I take it that TallTom doesn’t do his own taxes.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Why do you continue to parrot the lies from the right without even trying to think about what you are writing. Have you or anyone that you know filed taxes for last year yet? Last year was 2024 in case your forgot, and I'm just starting to get my tax statements in the mail. I got one today.

The last year that Biden and his wife Jill filed income taxes was for 2023 and according to Google, here is what they paid: "The President and First Lady filed their income tax return jointly and reported federal adjusted gross income of $619,976. They paid $146,629 in federal income tax, and their 2023 effective federal income tax rate is 23.7 percent."

Maybe you're thinking about the deadbeat orange guy who rarely pays any taxes. I googled how much trump paid in taxes and there isn't any accounting of it, even though he promised to release his taxes. Then he said that he was under audit and wasn't allowed to release them, another of his more than 30,000 documented lies. I have been audited and never did the IRS say that I wasn't allowed to discuss anything about my returns.

And I have zero idea how much musk paid.

Why do you continue to post lies like that?

Why?
See post #139

 

[Bumblebee]

Why do you continue to parrot the lies from the right without even trying to think about what you are writing. Have you or anyone that you know filed taxes for last year yet? Last year was 2024 in case your forgot, and I'm just starting to get my tax statements in the mail. I got one today.

The last year that Biden and his wife Jill filed income taxes was for 2023 and according to Google, here is what they paid: "The President and First Lady filed their income tax return jointly and reported federal adjusted gross income of $619,976. They paid $146,629 in federal income tax, and their 2023 effective federal income tax rate is 23.7 percent."

Maybe you're thinking about the deadbeat orange guy who rarely pays any taxes. I googled how much trump paid in taxes and there isn't any accounting of it, even though he promised to release his taxes. Then he said that he was under audit and wasn't allowed to release them, another of his more than 30,000 documented lies. I have been audited and never did the IRS say that I wasn't allowed to discuss anything about my returns.

And I have zero idea how much musk paid.

Why do you continue to post lies like that?

If I may interject here......

Why is there such an inquisition happening right now?

Bottom line is the republican party led by Trump has been voted in and there is nothing you or anyone who dislikes this decision can do about it at this juncture.

You obviously did not vote republican so I can see the disappointment of not having a successful vote casted however, you saw who was in the running......if you want to have anger....place it where it belongs.....in the laps of the democratic party, it was their election to win....and they didn't.
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I just don't know where all this anger and hate will lead to but it certainly isn't helping anything and definitely not doing anything to bring the US together as a nation....

We are in a thread which is focused on the devastating destruction of people's homes and livelihoods yet all that can be discussed here are things that nobody has any control or influence over......

Where did the America I knew go that when strife and disaster was inflicted, it came together and cast off all the political chains in the face of rebuilding?

This is the saddest part of all....

 

[OldBusaGuy]

If I may interject here......

Why is there such an inquisition happening right now?

Bottom line is the republican party led by Trump has been voted in and there is nothing you or anyone who dislikes this decision can do about it at this juncture.

You obviously did not vote republican so I can see the disappointment of not having a successful vote casted however, you saw who was in the running......if you want to have anger....place it where it belongs.....in the laps of the democratic party, it was their election to win....and they didn't.
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I just don't know where all this anger and hate will lead to but it certainly isn't helping anything and definitely not doing anything to bring the US together as a nation....

We are in a thread which is focused on the devastating destruction of people's homes and livelihoods yet all that can be discussed here are things that nobody has any control or influence over......

Where did the America I knew go that when strife and disaster was inflicted, it came together and cast off all the political chains in the face of rebuilding?

This is the saddest part of all....

Do you think that it would be better to just let trump tell lie after lie and let his cult followers believe them without anyone challenging them. I tend to call out liars for what they are. And nobody can lie like trump.

And the part about Biden paying about $300 for this years taxes was such a pathetic lie from little tommy boy that I had to respond to that too. I don't like liars or being lied to. Now I expect little tommy boy to take this post and say that I said that I like liars.

Things like taxes go hand in hand with fire control, being that it is tax dollars that fund the fire departments that fight fires. I thought everyone knew that. Or did some people think that all fire departments were run by unpaid volunteers?

 

[OldBusaGuy]

Why?
See post #139

Correct on post #139. I agree.

 

[Red05]

If I may interject here......

Why is there such an inquisition happening right now?

Bottom line is the republican party led by Trump has been voted in and there is nothing you or anyone who dislikes this decision can do about it at this juncture.

You obviously did not vote republican so I can see the disappointment of not having a successful vote casted however, you saw who was in the running......if you want to have anger....place it where it belongs.....in the laps of the democratic party, it was their election to win....and they didn't.
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I just don't know where all this anger and hate will lead to but it certainly isn't helping anything and definitely not doing anything to bring the US together as a nation....

We are in a thread which is focused on the devastating destruction of people's homes and livelihoods yet all that can be discussed here are things that nobody has any control or influence over......

Where did the America I knew go that when strife and disaster was inflicted, it came together and cast off all the political chains in the face of rebuilding?

This is the saddest part of all....

Apologies Bee. I’m just responding to the ridiculous crap TT and the Bobbsie Twins are posting. They’re the ones that turned this conversation political.

 

[Bumblebee]

Do you think that it would be better to just let trump tell lie after lie and let his cult followers believe them without anyone challenging them. I tend to call out liars for what they are. And nobody can lie like trump.

And the part about Biden paying about $300 for this years taxes was such a pathetic lie from little tommy boy that I had to respond to that too. I don't like liars or being lied to. Now I expect little tommy boy to take this post and say that I said that I like liars.

Things like taxes go hand in hand with fire control, being that it is tax dollars that fund the fire departments that fight fires. I thought everyone knew that. Or did some people think that all fire departments were run by unpaid volunteers?

I think that having an internet spat over something you have absolutely no control over isn't making any difference in the big scheme of things and the only thing it is doing is creating a hostile environment on the forum.

The fact that real people have lost everything seems to be allusive here.......who really cares at our level about what Biden did or didn't do or what Trump did or didn't do?

Those people living in hotels wearing donated clothing trying to put their lives back together or others who are grieving the loss of a loved one(s) sure don't care about them right now......

 

[OldBusaGuy]

I think that having an internet spat over something you have absolutely no control over isn't making any difference in the big scheme of things and the only thing it is doing is creating a hostile environment on the forum.

The fact that real people have lost everything seems to be allusive here.......who really cares at our level about what Biden did or didn't do or what Trump did or didn't do?

Those people living in hotels wearing donated clothing trying to put their lives back together or others who are grieving the loss of a loved one(s) sure don't care about them right now......

That's kind of like saying that we should just pray for the fires to go out instead of putting water on them. We aren't going to help the fire victims by commenting on a Busa forum, no matter what we comment.

But going forward, we can all try to figure out how we can prevent things like this from happening again.

 

[Bumblebee]

That's kind of like saying that we should just pray for the fires to go out instead of putting water on them. We aren't going to help the fire victims by commenting on a Busa forum, no matter what we comment.

But going forward, we can all try to figure out how we can prevent things like this from happening again.

Take a look at the title of this thread.....it is a discussion regarding the situation at hand........and if anything it is an educational discussion that in reality shouldn't devolve into nastiness and should rather bring everyone onto the same page as to what's best for the victims of this devastation......unlike the polarizing political rhetoric which always ends in some sort of insult and name calling....

Look at how angry people get when politics are involved....


There's a political section for expressing a person's malcontent with the political situation they find themselves embroiled in....

 

[TallTom]

Do you think that it would be better to just let trump tell lie after lie and let his cult followers believe them without anyone challenging them. I tend to call out liars for what they are. And nobody can lie like trump.

And the part about Biden paying about $300 for this years taxes was such a pathetic lie from little tommy boy that I had to respond to that too. I don't like liars or being lied to. Now I expect little tommy boy to take this post and say that I said that I like liars.

Things like taxes go hand in hand with fire control, being that it is tax dollars that fund the fire departments that fight fires. I thought everyone knew that. Or did some people think that all fire departments were run by unpaid volunteers?

For someone who hates lies so much, you have committed more than most of the Libtards here. And been here the least amount of time. And that's saying a lot!

How about this, if I have stated something false, I'll retract it. Let's see if you can offer the same in return. You'll retract and own any lies you've spread here?

 

[TallTom]

Sadly it's becoming more and more divided as politics seems to leech into each and every thread...

To see word like "liar" and "idiot" and the like typed into a post in this forum is a sad thing to see especially since not one person on this forum has any influence of what happens in the political ring.

In the end, it doesn't matter who is sitting in the White House, by the time any change they make or don't make filters down to the common citizen, it's time for another election....

Bee don't let it bother you so much. Just consider the class of the source. It's no different than the source calling you names in the EV thread.

 

[OldBusaGuy]

For someone who hates lies so much, you have committed more than most of the Libtards here. And been here the least amount of time. And that's saying a lot!

How about this, if I have stated something false, I'll retract it. Let's see if you can offer the same in return. You'll retract and own any lies you've spread here?

I challenge you to show me anything that I have lied about. You can't do it. I'll be waiting.

With that said, I have posted lies that trump said. "Mexico will pay for the wall" is one lie that I have posted, but it isn't my words. It is the words of your cult leader.

Just because you disagree with what I write here doesn't make it a lie.

Come on, just post one lie from me.

 

[Bumblebee]

Bee don't let it bother you so much. Just consider the class of the source. It's no different than the source calling you names in the EV thread.

.....and that was an awful experience truth be told......I'm a hands on guy that can fight any fight that faces me but it's hard to fight a virtual fight......

All the anger and rhetoric that goes on in these threads has driven a few away and has caused others to not post....there's far too much of these types of posts lately..

I get passion and I get how people react to passion but there's always some sort of red line we cross it seems.....which triggers someone.....

 

[Red05]

Take a look at the title of this thread.....it is a discussion regarding the situation at hand........and if anything it is an educational discussion that in reality shouldn't devolve into nastiness and should rather bring everyone onto the same page as to what's best for the victims of this devastation......unlike the polarizing political rhetoric which always ends in some sort of insult and name calling....

Look at how angry people get when politics are involved....


There's a political section for expressing a person's malcontent with the political situation they find themselves embroiled in....

What devolved the thread was placing blame above surviving. Anybody that’s been to the Pacific Palisades knows how beautiful an area it is, and a terrible shame this is. The problem is the dry windy climate with a lot of gorgeous vegetation is the perfect recipe for fires. Controlled burns? Yeah in northern Cali or less populated areas.
The rebuilders will figure it out. It’s still easily worth it.
Remember, we all have our ways of communicating. Bee you’re the only one I can think of here that refrains from name calling or partisanship. It’s a good look.

 

[TallTom]

I challenge you to show me anything that I have lied about. You can't do it. I'll be waiting.

With that said, I have posted lies that trump said. "Mexico will pay for the wall" is one lie that I have posted, but it isn't my words. It is the words of your cult leader.

Just because you disagree with what I write here doesn't make it a lie.

Come on, just post one lie from me.

We can go one at a time. It's gonna take awhile to cover them all

1.

Biden didn't inherit a booming stock market from trump. It was tanking.

Total lie.

 

[TallTom]

.....and that was an awful experience truth be told......I'm a hands on guy that can fight any fight that faces me but it's hard to fight a virtual fight......

All the anger and rhetoric that goes on in these threads has driven a few away and has caused others to not post....there's far too much of these types of posts lately..

I get passion and I get how people react to passion but there's always some sort of red line we cross it seems.....which triggers someone.....

Disagreement can remain civil. In the absence of that, I have zero problem placing someone on ignore.

Somedays a half a page in a thread is filled with

"You are ignoring content from this user.".

Let them abuse each other for all I care.